NamKangMan

"did not seem to be any owner in attendance" - maybe the owner is in attendance (onboard) - just not alive.

Why don't these people get someone to proofread official signs and documents?

Proofreading is an occupation reserved for Thai's only.

We have had the Red Shirts, the Yellow Shirts, the Pink Shirts and now the Khaki Green Shirts. (army)

There goes the neighbourhood.

Lots of Americans and Canadians call garden hoses hose pipes.

Sure.

They also call "pipes" implements for smoking drugs.

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Do you need a hose, or pipe?

What's the application?

Sounds like an American and I think he's after a garden hose.

What makes you say the OP "sounds like an American?"

Remember this case? He was shot dead, in front of his wife.

http://www.phuketgazette.net/articles/articles/get_article_detail/11998

I believe this journalist wrotes some articles about illegal land titles from the Land Title Office.

I suppose being charged with defamation is kind way of shutting someone up, when they could simply have you assassinated.

Yes, I remember it as it happened near where I used to live on Phuket town. Sorry, "City".

Google "The third suspect has been charged as the mastermind. He is Assadakorn "Pod" Seedokbuab, 48" to read a story about the alleged mastermind - the head of KPP Cable. I can't remember what happened to him. But typically money talks and the perp walks.

TIT.

Edit: Remove nested quotes.

He is probably out on Phuket's famous "never ending bail."

Of course, you would have to pay a monthly fee, for such bail.

Do you need a hose, or pipe?

What's the application?

The "freelancer" is in on the scam with the tour company.

He'll take a red card for the team, and the money will be split between him and the tour company.

Next time the tour company struggles for cash flow, and I sure in the present Phuket tourism climate they will, they will just get in another "freelancer."

Just a quick capital raising exercise.

"Add your comment" returns a blank page." - I'm having a similar issue.

Ah that explains it then as I was trying to post a comment on the article regarding no action on the Phuket tuk tuk mafia and the land breach investigations that were started some time ago.

On that subject, well we all know why nothing has happened and in the next jumble of words will be clues..........people in high places, brown envelopes, RTP, corruption......any I've missed?

Famous (infamous) John Magee quote, when challenged about the weakness of the Gazette's responses to "Mafia" stories: "They know where I live."

Don't blame him, actually.

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Just noticed that they've removed the "Comment on this story" button.

Hopefully they are merely revamping the web site and all will be back to "normal" in a few days, weeks, mon.... who knows?

Why don't they say what is going on?

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They have been fairly tolerant in the last few months in allowing some pretty strong anti-administration, anti-police and anti-immigration department comments. I wonder if they've been warned by <complete yourself> to stop it?

Remember this case? He was shot dead, in front of his wife.

http://www.phuketgazette.net/articles/articles/get_article_detail/11998

I believe this journalist wrotes some articles about illegal land titles from the Land Title Office.

I suppose being charged with defamation is kind way of shutting someone up, when they could simply have you assassinated.

The PG has gotten even worse, if that's possible.

You now get one new article per day and that is usually a "puff" piece.

Anything of consequence happens in Phuket and PG are about two days behind PW in reporting about it.

The Phuket News is about two days behind the PG.

Frankly, if PW folds, where do we get local news from?

Gazette has only been a classifieds rag for me. Gazette guide for services is handy but the news is days behind Phuketwan.

Phuketwan is the best news source regardless of my feelings towards Ego Morrison.

Phuket news is just another advertising rag with paid restaurant reviews. It's the puppy piss matt.

It's Phuketwan for the stories and the others if I'm looking for a fire sale or need a service.

I know it's hard for you to compliment Morison.

Well done.

Or Just employ a good ''LAWYER''...

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I'm sad to say that Thai lawyers often look after their own interests well ahead of their clients interests.

Not just "Thai lawyers" - lawyers from every country.

Not mentioned yet is the usufruct construction, it gives you the right to use a property for your natural life time, after that the full rights return to the owner or his heirs. Usufruct can be on a foreigners name.

"it gives you the right to use a property for your natural life time" - sounds like an invitation to the owner to throw you off a balcony.

"Add your comment" returns a blank page." - I'm having a similar issue.

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Tell me - why bother buying????

Clearly we don't agree. I'm not advising you, or anyone, to buy. I am making my position clear for others to decide what is best for them. That's my last word to your question.

What, exactly, is your "position" then?

As a property owner, on Phuket, what would your CURRENT advice be to perspectve purchasers?

"That's my last word to your question." - your silence on the matter doesn't exactly exude confidence in the market.

We got NKM and Pinot. Two self confessed renters with no experience in real estate here besides renting a room.

Funny how it's all stories about a friend told him this and that. Leave the thread guys, it's obviously outside your personal experience and gossip stories just don't add to your credibility or the conversation.

As mentioned before, I have a small property portfolio, over 3 continents, yet, I would never "buy" in Thailand.

As a single person, I admit, I do not rent a mansion, but I do rent a property considerably more substantial than "a room."

Would you care to address my post, rather than myself?

If I understood the OP right, then the 30 year lease was not registered with the Land department and documented on the chanote as required by law and that alone makes the whole thing moot, doesn't it? So many other things wrong in this story like lessees and lessors both defaulting... I think you can't extrapolate too much from this case.

Is there a proper translation of the verdict? Because all other reports seem like very vague hear-say.

"Is there a proper translation of the verdict?" - yes, there is. All 30 X 30 X 30 leases are "void" - including the original 30 years.

We may not be far away from the Thai version of a Robert Mugabe style reclamation of Thai land.

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Oh dear, Mr Doom and Gloom chimes in yet again. The old rent is much better than buy/lease mantra.

One must consider the whole picture. For sure if a foreigner has no Thai connections/responsibities then rent is a very good short term plan. It's a completely different picture for those of us who have life commitments here in Thailand.

For sure it's much more difficult to plan that 'property' and a home as an appreciating asset, but there is more to that equation than monetary value, how about considering life style, status to one's Thai partner.

"Oh dear, Mr Doom and Gloom chimes in yet again." - which one am I, Mr. Doom, or Mr. Gloom?

"For sure if a foreigner has no Thai connections/responsibities then rent is a very good short term plan." - my question to you, LIK, is even if a foreigner has "Thai connections/responsibilities" why isn't "rent" a good long term plan????????

"there is more to that equation than monetary value, how about considering life style" - EXACTLY.

Why tie up cash in a depreciating asset, that is poorly constructed, when that cash, invested elsewhere, makes more money than the rent asked for buying the same property????????

Doesn't the residual money profit in the rent v buy analysis also offer "lifestyle" BUT with the added freedom of movement, if so desired, for any reason, at any time, away from a certain property / location?

Basically, if you rent, you can live in a new house, every few years, without maintenance costs etc, and still leave your capital invested in western countries, earning more than the cost of rent on Phuket.

If you buy on Phuket, you are on a depreciating asset, with who knows what will become of the location, or the demographic, where you chose to buy.

Tell me - why bother buying????

Looks like the guy getting searched in the photo has p*ssed his himself.

It can hardly be called an "investment" when you MUST have a "trusted" Thai national as a partner, either romantically, or financially, in order to enter the property market in Thailand, with some success.

I have no doubt some made money in the Phuket boom time - mid 80's to early 2000's.

However, those days are well and truly gone, and even those who have made some money here in the past from property, would now struggle to sell whatever property they are residing in now.

Many older Expats say, "When I die, the Thai wife can have it. So I don't care."

These guys may not actually be leaving the wife anything she can liquidate, and in fact, may be leaving behind an asset that will cost her money, rather than make her money, upon their demise.

The property market on Phuket will not continue to be fueled by Russian or Chinese money, after the western market has gone, in the same way their money is not fueling the tourism industry here now.

Maybe these thieving Knaiving thai women may learn they cannot take from people and not expect concequences when they dump them and think they can give the middle finger.

Seems the guy tried multiple times to get his money back and was met with an arrogant attitude

No matter what he did he was going to be on the losing end and shooting her was extreme of course however I can feel his frustration taking all his money and then moving in the new boyfriend while sticking him the finger.

You REAP what You SO

"Maybe these thieving Knaiving thai women may learn they cannot take from people and not expect concequences" - prevention is better than the cure.

If "these thieving Knaiving thai women" were not given any money in the first place, nobody would have any grief from any of them.

This monumnet truly announces Phuket's arrival on the world stage as "A World Class Tourist Destination."

Brilliant artist who has been at work there. Reminds me when I was still living in Amsterdam/Netherlands, for a long time there was construction going on in a downtown street I often drove through. Construction finally finished, there remained a pile of metal slabs and poles laying on the pavement. I assumed the building crew had forgotten to clear out properly, till I learned this was a work of art.

On another occasion, they constructed a piece of artwork in the middle of a nightlife area, it consisted of 4 metal slabs leaning towards each other, the pavement in the middle being deepened a bit. They finally removed it when it started reeking too much of urine.

This Karon artwork also looks inviting for males to answer a call of nature.

"This Karon artwork also looks inviting for males to answer a call of nature." - on it, or behind it?

Probably cost a few million for a feasibility study and another few to build.

And a member of the Mayor's family "won" the contract to build this fine piece of art.

Exactly - every 'project' in Thaialnd has many % skimmed off the top.

With the removal of beach chairs, beach clubs etc etc, and the black money they produced for local authorities, maybe we can expect a spate of new and useless monuments, to replace their lost revenue, once again, at the expense of critical infastructure.

Probably cost a few million for a feasibility study and another few to build.

And a member of the Mayor's family "won" the contract to build this fine piece of art.