Shaunduhpostman

Why are we being asked to help? Its their country they can work together to solve the problem. Not every country on earth has a strict lockout and 14 day quarantine requirement. Can't they look into what someone bedsides the WHO and UN say about COVID19, the droves of epidemiologists, virologists, doctors etc who say and can show you if you have a 30 minute attention span why COVID19 is not only not any more dangerous than  a flu, that nobody in any significant numbers  is dying of it anymore. How much can they really be bothered with solving the problem that they come out with this utterly lugubrious plea for foreigners to help? Here is an article from Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s website about how the pandemic is over, maybe this will help them adjust and be like some other countries who are apparently not quaking in their boots over flu viruses countries such as Mexico, Turkey, Macedonia, Albania, Serbia, Nepal (Mid-August), Brazil and many others with much less stringent foreigner requirements than Thailand. They need to put Thai people at ease by explaining they we have immune systems and that it is important to eat well, rest and exercise, and if you do that your immune system will not let you die or even get sick. But if they want to run with the Pharma companies and the vaccinators etc., to spread fear perhaps because they are signed on to do their bidding then no amount of begging for help from foreigners to save you from what you can easily save yourself from  is going to help. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/lockdown-lunacy-3-0-its-over/?itm_term=home

Enough is enough. What complete nonsense on top of nonsense from the good Chinese doctor here.

In my travels to understand what is going on with COVID19, it seems it is only health officials and politicians who are telling us the PCR testing of COVID19 is beyond questioning. I think what has been reported in the OP is yet another interesting bit of evidence that the PCR COVID-19 test is invalid, not that we need more evidence it is there aplenty. As a disclaimer, I am not posting this to argue and fight, in fact I have no interest in mainstream media informed challenges to this, I am posting this for people who are having trouble getting hold of another side of the story. I am sorry but I am not interested in your story about how real COVID19 is because you or someone you know has been ill from it. I wouldn't deny anyone's illness and I am very sorry about people who get seriously ill and in fact the stress of lockdown has long been known to be recipe for pneumonia and respiratory symptoms, yes stress and confinement can cause these just  as a virus can. The fact is we live in a sea of viruses and we have immune systems that cope with these things. And yes people's immune systems are fallible sometimes and people can get sick and yes people die sometimes, but  I am sorry none of that confirms the existence of COVID19. 

From many epidemiologists, doctors, microbiologists  and virologists not being interviewed by the mainstream media we hear that the false negatives of the PCR test are 60-80%, and that in any case the danger of the virus is on the level of a flu virus and that if you want to protect the vulnerable the no-brainer solution is to isolate the vulnerable from the general population not isolate the general population from the vulnerable. But, as far as the "test" it is  completely meaningless as far as indicating whether one is a carrier of so-called COVID19 the existence of which itself is debatable and yet another debate that is not being allowed on the mainstream media. For starters the virus has never been properly isolated and that is according to many immunologists, virologists, microbiologists, medical doctors and epidemiologists. The information is there in abundance on the internet just not readily available via a casual subject search on search engines and banned from Youtube, etc. 

Look up Dr Andy Kaufman, microbiologist, psychiatrist, and medical doctor with degrees from Duke, M.I.T. and the University of South Carolina who has several in-depth presentations and interviews that are not incomprehensible to laymen, explaining the shoddiness of the whole formulation of the COVID19 virus. Kaufman looked into the Wuhan tests which were just flash spot tests conducted by medical researchers or doctors in Wuhan when some people were showing up with some unusual illnesses. The provisional results were posted on medical nets and German and British authorities such as the Royal College ran with them. The test done in Wuhan is based on the general contents of fluid in the lungs with no virus ever having been isolated. In Europe the same shoddy spot test was carried out to confirm the results. Among many who are in the appropriate fields to understand the so-called COVID19 virus and who question its seriousness and existence are high ranking Thai professor in the German university system Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi who has created a group of concerned professionals to try and get the public informed. At any rate given that the test is a.) not designed for epidemiological purposes but for industrial applications and b.) in need of a gold standard by which to compare its results, the standard for the PCR COVID-19 test is the very same PCR COVID19 test itself c.) needing to test for a virus that has been isolated and proven to exist. So, It is hardly surprising that people test negative prior to arrival in Thailand and prior to quarantine and exit the quarantine testing positive. I have read also that the test was tried out by researchers in China with people being tested multiple times and in most cases tests showed people to have the virus and then in subsequent testing to

not have the virus. The results just flip back and forth with multiple tests.

Here is a link to some excellent in depth research and examination of the facts regarding the PCR tests of the "virus":

https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/#1

Interview with Dr. Andy Kaufman:

https://londonreal.tv/unmasking-the-lies-around-covid-19-facts-vs-fiction-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

And for a general information understanding apart from the mainstream media as to what is going on, the website Swiss Policy Research presents 30 Facts about COVID-19  with clickable links to references from a wide range of people involved in research:

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

Whatever you may think or not think of Sweden at least it seems to have grasped something that any caring, compassionate pandemic planners would take into account and that is that poverty kills and it kills at a much higher rate than COVID. I cannot remember the source, but you can definitely find it out there, I have heard it quoted several times in some more   informed, in-depth discussions on COVID that according to a 1984 US governmental agency study 80,000 people die in the US for every one point increase in the unemployment rate. Seeing as US unemployment is being projected to reach 30% during the COVID crisis, that is an increase from 3% so COVID solutions that completely ignore the effect of shutting down economies can look at death rates jumping around 10 times from what it would be normally. So using that yardstick, for the US, if unemployment reaches 33% you are looking at COVID lockdown= 2.4 million deaths. Sweden wins, it's not that hard either to grasp and it makes one wonder what the hell is actually going on that we have had economies shut down because of a corona virus, something that will have a trivial effect on the lives of any healthy person that it infects, you'll get a bad cold at worst.

I could bang on and on ad nauseum about what is wrong with this so-called push to upgrade English in Thailand. But it is pointless, its the same problem again and again, they don't get it, don't care that they don't get it,  and it's the same broken record like statements that the government or the ministries issue every year about what needs to be done, while they take 3 steps backwards a few months later and immigration or someone in the education ministry will introduce some new laws that make it even more of a hassle or even an impossibility to become a teacher while wages totally stagnate for over 20 years. Care, commitment and money and good planning and patience are essential but no, it has to all happen right now, for no money and miraculous events must transpire. There is little to no will to fix any of the problems that are glaringly obvious if Thailand wants to improve its English, and importing 7,000 or 3,000 or 10,000 or whatever they were saying in the article will do nothing. It is exactly the same foreign teacher band-aide solution. For a government group to admit problems and discuss details of problems and solutions is just so unbecoming and nt the thing to do, no one wants to hear it and you won't have a job if you do I would guess. But There needs to be a foundation laid for a culture of language education and learning, and that starts with Thais themselves.  Why not shell out and invest for promising students to study abroad for a year? That is the best way to learn a language is to get into an environment and be immersed in the language. But no, we don;t want to spend that kind of money. And  as things stand foreign teachers arrive in this very negative millieu in the schools where Thai teachers rightfully feel neglected, unsupported and envious and left behind and go about sabotaging the visiting teachers, and the English programs. I get that they don't want people to like being here too much, but it is a real jungle you are descending into as a fresh of the boat English teacher going into a Thai school to teach. Nobody benefits. It s not only underpaid difficult to get legal but you face a hostile environment in most schools and there are too many who want to make sure you fail and fall flat on your face as the foreign teacher in the school. The education ministeries will never solve there whole problem I am afraid, there is no will or even capacity for honest self-reflection, evaluation and effective analsysis and basic problem solving to be able to do anything. It is like many things here,  very sad and you have to see this country drowning in a puddle of water so to speak and on so many fronts not just education.

A billionaire with connections to the UN and Elon Musk. Hmm. My guttersnipe's paranoid science fiction conspiracy theory guess would be that Thanatorn is the globalist banks' smart dusting, "sustainable" planet agenda and technocrat's man. The Thai establishment is too messy, too dinosauric, anachronistic, too oblivious to hi tech,  too connected to China for this lot to get their 5g satellite monitored globalist UN 2030 agenda thing going in Thailand to the extent that they would like. So, I would not put my money on Thailand becoming more democratic should Thanatorn prevail, if what some posts on this thread has said  about his background is correct, that he is part of the Musk network and has worked with the UN previously and therefore may still be doing so. Surely there would be hope of a very  different Thailand but not a democratic Thailand as democracy is rapidly evaporating as a possibility for the whole world with the quickly ramping up  global surveillance state, the internet of things and its apparent aim of an AI monitored social credit system that will make the problem of differing opinions and dissent negligible for the elites everywhere except amongst themselves, of course. As 5g, the new internet of things network goes in place, not only is total surveillance and control  down to our eeg's and bodily proceses everywhere all the time possible but also weaponization  anytime anywhere, so perhaps the Thai police force would find themselves out of a job, and the sooner they realize this the sooner they would be fighting tooth and nail against Thanatorn. Elon Musk is playing a big role in laying the infrastructural foundations for this total surveillance state with his company making up the lion's share of the 84,000 5g satellites that are slated to be up within three years, and which has already begun and consistently ahead of schedule and getting whatever green lights they want from any who might have authority to regulate them. So I would speculate that what we are looking at with Thanatorn is an agent who is working for this particular juggernaut not a democratic Thailand but a globalist compliant Thailand, a driverless car Thailand, which Thailand probably would be better off with, heheh,  a Starlink to Neuralink satellite connected internet straight to the brain  Thailand which I doubt few Thais care one way of the other about,  though a Thailand that has cut down all of its trees and microwaved its eco-systems to make way for the signal paths, a Thailand that has made its people even more sick and unhealthy than they already are with the large upswing in electromagnetic radiation that the new 5g system blasting through the ionopshere and creating even more disruption in the weather will create. It would seem this demonstration would be the start of something like  a show down between western and Chinese proxy forces, between Huawei-China Mobile-the Communist Party and Starlink-Verizon-AT&T-Chase Manhattan Bank (or whatever bank or banks are behind the internet of things and the UN) over who gets to run the infrastructure for the Thailand sector of the one world system.

To me does not seem to be at all in touch with what tourists might be concerned with or scared of, being strict isn't the problem. If laws and regulations were clearly stated and strictly enforced, then at least I would know what I can and cannot do. The problem of going to Thailand more and more is that you don't know what will happen to you if you try to go there. What "scares" me about immigration is the selective enforcement of laws that are themselves unclear and deliberately written to provide officials with maximum leeway to interpret against whoever for whatever reason. That kind of situation, that way of enforcing laws in Thailand  might be all that Thai people know, so perhaps it doesn't seem to be a problem to people like the immigration chief, but to foreign tourists it is very off putting if not scary, because many countries are much less arbitrary and random about applying their own laws. The system in Thailand is chaotic, not least of all among many reasons because individuals working for the various govt agencies are mostly allowed to do whatever serves themselves personally as first priority, and so as a tourist you may be put in rather dire situations because what happens to you is all down to what will serve the interests of whoever is handling your case, it matters not one iota to most immigration or police officers what happens to you, they don't even seem to have any sense of doing anything wrong by applying laws without regard to people's safety and well being, as they are fully entitled to behave this way by the culture. They seem to see themselves as having a license to be the cat and the rest of the world is the mice and nothing to do with doing what is best for Thailand. For example, as we read again and again on Thaivisa  Thai consulates will happily take a person's money for a tourist visa when they quite likely know full well the applicant will travel all the way to Thailand only to be sent back home for excessive time spent in Thailand. As we read again and again in reports on Thaivisa, such people may well then be encarcerated at the immigration holding tank cells at the airport where they are extorted from for various fees such as rental fees for the holding tank cell and if they are not able to afford the inflated price of an immediate ticket home they may find themselves in an actual Thai immigration jail where one could conceivably die from beatings by Iranian gangs the not so strict Thai immigration authorities allow to run the jails, food and water deprivation, as happened to the American English teacher according a recent article in the UK tabloid press and re-posted on Thaivisa. This situation of being put even temporarily in a Thai jail is especially dangerous if they are aged or in not top condition. Of course that would be an exceptionally unfortunate situation, I would assume that few fare that badly as in the case of the English teacher, but there are innumerable ways that things could go wrong simply because nobody has a mind to do anything strictly, think sensibly or have any consideration for the welfare of others, its all do as you please land in Thailand and few of the authorities care what happens to others as a result of the way they go about their business  and nearly anything can happen. Of course, I am not one to tell Thailand how to run its society, however, if you invite and promote tourism and you don't consider that foreign people can't get their heads around how you roll in Thailand, that people can and do fall between the rather wide cracks here that these incidents are reported on internet forums if not in the media, you shouldn't be surprised people will be "scared" or simply sensible for not taking a holiday in Thailand.

The level to which the Pattaya authorities take for granted the tourists that bring them their money was underscored to me when I went to a beach over towards Jomtien about 9 months ago where there are several large apartment or condo developments right at the beach. That day I saw a roped off swimming area and these large sewage pipe/hoses from the Jomtien complexes which I assume were emptying raw sewage out right dead center in the roped off swimming area. The "sewage" hoses were two in number and rather large and occupied quite a significant part of the swimming area, so that I couldn't help but think that to go swimming in the swimming area would amount to swimming in a sewage tank. If what I saw at the Jomtien beach was what I think it was, they seem to think that investors in their condos and tourists should literally have to swim in their poo. Too many of these lapses seem like cruel and sadistic jokes on people who spend significant amounts of their hard earned and saved money to come here. The seemingly deliberate set up of foreign tourists for accidents, fatalities, misfortune, humiliations and drama etc seems to be a permanent feature of the psychology of the "planners" and authorities in Pattaya, as though they suffer a blow to their pride and egos to allow foreigners to enjoy themselves in their country  such that you have little faith they will ever change their ways because of one news expose or a hundred. How many stories has there already been? It is too late anyway, the word is out about Thailand and it is too expensive to have to put up with the nastiness of people running things here.