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November poll ‘impossible’

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November poll ‘impossible’

By Wasamon Audjarint 
The Nation

 

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Pheu Thai Party’s former deputy secretary general Chavalit Witchayasuth (left), Democrat Party’s deputy leader (second from right) and outgoing election Commissioner Somchai Srisutthiyakorn (right) attend a forum on election yesterday.

 

Critics slam use of article 44 as harming democracy while weakening existing political parties by essentially resetting playing field
 

DESPITE the junta leader’s claim to promote an inclusive democracy, the new Article 44 order to extend deadlines for political party activity would instead make a November election “impossible” and weaken public participation in the political system, observers and academics said yesterday.

 

On Friday, Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha issued an order under his absolute powers to amend the existing Political Party Act, giving the main reason as the need to extend the deadlines required for parties to follow ahead of the election.

 

The junta’s ban against political gatherings of five or more people has stopped parties from holding meetings or making other official moves. Although the order is claimed to “facilitate” parties, it requires members of existing parties to submit “verifying membership documents” to their party headquarters.

 

“This process will be no different from resetting all of parties’ memberships,” said Prinya Thaewanarumitkul, a law professor and vice rector at Thammasat University. 

 

As the Article 44 order rules that party members should not be subject to stipulations regarding disqualification according to the Political Party Act’s Article 24, this means that any members wishing to verify their membership will have to prepare a lot of paperwork. 

 

Prinya said this would not only encourage people to set up new parties, but allow prospective MP candidates to shift sides easily. The order, while allowing parties to hold meetings, still only gave permission on a “necessity basis” to prepare administrative procedures. 

This did not truly give liberty to parties, he added.

 

 Outgoing election commissioner Somchai Srisutthiyakorn said that it would be impossible to hold an election by November next year, despite Prayut’s earlier promise, if parties followed the new timeline stipulated in the Article 44 order.

 

“This order’s requirement will set new deadlines to fall in October,” Somchai said. “And this is only for the preparation process. It will be impossible to carry out the rest of process in only a month.”

 

Somchai said that this could leave room for small parties to propose a postponement of the election date.

 

“This order h as only come to soften the political blow, but it does not actually fix anything,” he added.

 

Jurin Laksanawisit, the Democrat Party’s deputy leader, said that it was not unusual for new parties to emerge in a post-coup election. “Some parties could directly belong to military men and some parties could be their nominees,” Jurin said.

 

“But for this coming election, there is no need to set up a party to become prime minister, as the charter allows an outsider to become PM. The [junta-handpicked] Senate will also have power to select the premier,” he said.

 

This order, he continued, would also weakening the membership of existing parties by making it harder to maintain their supporters, limiting the public’s opportunity to participate in the party system. “Membership is crucial to ensure political institutions such as political parties,” he said.

 

Chavalit Witchayasuth, Pheu Thai Party’s former deputy secretary-general, said Prayut’s use of absolute powers not only degraded the legitimacy of the legislative system by changing the already royally-endorsed law, it also disrespected people by practically resetting all parties.

 

They were speaking at a forum titled “How the country has reached this point: The constitution and the first election to democracy” held at the Thai Journalists’ Association headquarters yesterday.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30334708

 
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Democracy without corruption in Thailand poll - Never Happen!

Resetting the playing field. Yeah, that´s something that should have been done a long time ago.

56 minutes ago, webfact said:

...not only degraded the legitimacy of the legislative system...

This is where the focus of all the parties should be, on the legitimacy of the process.

 

The Junta is trying to cheat (surprise, surprise, surprise), but they know that without legitimacy they will be in a weakened position and forevermore an "Asterisk" government. And it'll always stick in Prayut's craw if he cannot claim to be legitimate.

 

It is time for the parties to either fight or acquiesce. If they are going to fight, it is time to get up on the proverbial soapbox and scream "illegitimate!".

 

Waiting too long is acquiescence. 

 

48 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Resetting the playing field. Yeah, that´s something that should have been done a long time ago.

Ban them all for life would be better.

33 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

This is where the focus of all the parties should be, on the legitimacy of the process.

 

The Junta is trying to cheat (surprise, surprise, surprise), but they know that without legitimacy they will be in a weakened position and forevermore an "Asterisk" government. And it'll always stick in Prayut's craw if he cannot claim to be legitimate.

 

It is time for the parties to either fight or acquiesce. If they are going to fight, it is time to get up on the proverbial soapbox and scream "illegitimate!".

 

Waiting too long is acquiescence. 

 

 

Ban all the existing parties and their members for life would be more productive.

 

"November poll ‘impossible’"

Your mission Somchai, should you choose to accept it...

 
Ban all the existing parties and their members for life would be more productive.
 

Well it would certainly ensure that nothing remotely resembling a freely elected representative democracy ever gains a toehold.

But I forget, that is your idea if the way ahead...

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

Critics slam use of article 44 as harming democracy while weakening existing political parties by essentially resetting playing field

Participatory government was defiled once those who took to the streets invited the army to take charge.  The critics are too late, and are stuck with system of government that suites the entitled, not the average citizen. 

Well I never!

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

Ban all the existing parties and their members for life would be more productive.

Only for the autocracy.

But banning the military for life would be far more productive for democracy.

 

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Outgoing election commissioner Somchai Srisutthiyakorn said that it would be impossible to hold an election by November next year, despite Prayut’s earlier promise, if parties followed the new timeline stipulated in the Article 44 order.

Prayut: And, in case you lot think I'm getting a bit 'nicer' lately, just remember who's got the guns around here. And good old Article 44, of course . . . what a cunning stunt that was. There's no way I'm leaving this place and all its fancy trappings . . . no way, fair or foul . . . understaaaand?

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How are Thai people going to accept democracy as a reality under a further 20 year Junta rule? Do you really believe the Junta would educate children for democracy? As a very minor critique it's '...too...' not '...to...'. Just a typo eh? Ha!
Easy start at primary school and have every child write on a blackboard a 100 times a day

"I will learn to respect democracy, I will not burn down bangkok if my team loses"

To be continued untill voting age.

In the meantime allow the junta to continue cleaning up thailand.

No question they have achieved more in 3 years than the last 30 years of democratically elected thieves.
6 minutes ago, InMyShadow said:

Easy start at primary school and have every child write on a blackboard a 100 times a day

"I will learn to respect democracy, I will not burn down bangkok if my team loses"

To be continued untill voting age.

In the meantime allow the junta to continue cleaning up thailand.
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No question they have achieved more in 3 years than the last 30 years of democratically elected thieves.

Sad to see that despite everything that's happened there STILL are a few clueless individuals buying into that BS. 

"....allow the junta to continue cleaning up thailand."

55555555555555555!

 

A post with a racial slur has been removed along with multiple replies.  

This is nothing less than the craftiest "GRAFT' EVER.......... The Junta is setting it up so NOBODY can win an election unless it is their guys...... And complicating it so much that they can justify delays and more delays, and thereby gain more time to plot things in their own favor more accurately..........

11 hours ago, yellowboat said:

Participatory government was defiled once those who took to the streets invited the army to take charge.  The critics are too late, and are stuck with system of government that suites the entitled, not the average citizen. 

And who took to the streets?

11 hours ago, yellowboat said:

Participatory government was defiled once those who took to the streets invited the army to take charge.  The critics are too late, and are stuck with system of government that suites the entitled, not the average citizen. 

And who took to the streets?

There will be no erection in the near future-too many vested interests and nest feathering. The new 'he who must be obeyed' is very quiet as well. Most are happy with the current status quo.

 

29 minutes ago, tryasimight said:

And who took to the streets?

Are you so lazy that you need others to tell you what you can look up yourself on the web?

8 minutes ago, Becker said:

Are you so lazy that you need others to tell you what you can look up yourself on the web?

No need to to look up on the web old mate.....I was here and saw the damage and death the reds caused. What really sickened me was the cheering of the crowds when it was announced a few kids were shot by the red leaders on stage.

4 hours ago, tryasimight said:

No need to to look up on the web old mate.....I was here and saw the damage and death the reds caused. What really sickened me was the cheering of the crowds when it was announced a few kids were shot by the red leaders on stage.

Well, try as you might to twist the truth to fit your narrative it only makes you come across as completely out of touch with reality...old mate.

23 hours ago, InMyShadow said:

Easy start at primary school and have every child write on a blackboard a 100 times a day

"I will learn to respect democracy, I will not burn down bangkok if my team loses"

To be continued untill voting age.

In the meantime allow the junta to continue cleaning up thailand.

No question they have achieved more in 3 years than the last 30 years of democratically elected thieves.

The North Korean Government would looovvve you.

November, which year was that again?

On 12/25/2017 at 9:40 PM, Psimbo said:

There will be no erection in the near future-too many vested interests and nest feathering. 

 

There's always viagra if nest feathering doesn't tickle your funny bone.

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