Italian man held after driving through city shooting at black people

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On 2/3/2018 at 10:07 PM, Enoon said:

 

"blacks" Karma?

 

Africans 1.216 billion.

Asians 4.436 billion

 

Europeans 743.1 million

N.America  579 million.

 

Indians and Chinese alone make up about 2.5 billion.

 

Future not looking very "white" is it?

 

 

And your statistics show just why the "whites" generally have a higher standard of living, education, health care, etc.,  and why everyone else wants to come to where the "whites"  live. As long as the PC crowd and its foolish leaders allow such migration, the future is not looking very "white" at all.  Seen those movies where the rich whites live in sleek modern cities while the poor whites and people of color are fighting for food.  An exaggeration but that's probably the 22nd Century . Let's not forget with climate change, food production may be reduced.  Doesn't seem all that unlikely to me. 

[ilostmypassword]

2 hours ago, halloween said:

Darwin would argue that they are, it's called survival of the fittest.

The former is directed selection, the latter is natural selection. And the criterion of success in natural selection is how many of your offspring survive and reproduce in turn. So, by the criterion you invoke, and given Africa's rapid population growth, Africans are on the whole, more fit than white Europeans, whose low birth rate signals their being less fit.

[lovelomsak]

7 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

Except of course that humans aren't bred for certain traits the way dogs are.

Traits come from culture duh

[halloween]

12 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

The former is directed selection, the latter is natural selection. And the criterion of success in natural selection is how many of your offspring survive and reproduce in turn. So, by the criterion you invoke, and given Africa's rapid population growth, Africans are on the whole, more fit than white Europeans, whose low birth rate signals their being less fit.

You don't seem to understand natural selection. Fast breeding populations change more rapidly, but that is not a measure of fitness to their environment. Directed and natural selection are the same thing in essence, the only difference being resulting outcome.

Domesticated animals do not fare well in the jungle, and the civilised residents of western cities are suffering the depredations of those less civilised.

[ilostmypassword]

1 minute ago, halloween said:

You don't seem to understand natural selection. Fast breeding populations change more rapidly, but that is not a measure of fitness to their environment. Directed and natural selection are the same thing in essence, the only difference being resulting outcome.

Domesticated animals do not fare well in the jungle, and the civilised residents of western cities are suffering the depredations of those less civilised.

Again, as any geneticist will tell you, the only definition of fitness that makes objective sense in terms of fitness is reproductive success. Is there any evidence that people from Africa have less success in reproducing in Europe than do white Europeans? Generally one of the "threats" that the right wing in Europe touts about Africans is that they have a higher birth rate than do white natives.

So, if that's true, that would mean that Africans are more fit.

And why exactly did you refer to the jungle? Do you believe that most Africans live in the jungle? Or until recently, lived in the jungle? Is your researched based on the works of Edgar Rice Burroughs?

[lovelomsak]

1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

Again, as any geneticist will tell you, the only definition of fitness that makes objective sense in terms of fitness is reproductive success. Is there any evidence that people from Africa have less success in reproducing in Europe than do white Europeans? Generally one of the "threats" that the right wing in Europe touts about Africans is that they have a higher birth rate than do white natives.

So, if that's true, that would mean that Africans are more fit.

And why exactly did you refer to the jungle? Do you believe that most Africans live in the jungle? Or until recently, lived in the jungle? Is your researched based on the works of Edgar Rice Burroughs?

 

1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

Domesticated animals do not fare well in the jungle, and the civilised residents of western cities are suffering the depredations of those less civilised.

You seem to be stuck on fitness he is talking about something completely different and it appears a level you cannot comprehend or understand.

 There is physical fitness makes you strong but does not make you civilized or intelligent.  

[ilostmypassword]

1 minute ago, lovelomsak said:

Traits come from culture duh

If this is meant to be a rebuttal to what I've written it's not. On the other hand, if in reply to the opinions of Halloween, it is, if a bit sketchy. Certainly the notion of behavioral traits on a huge level like the population of homo sapiens in Africa is nonsense. On the other hand, it's clear the abilities and proclivities on the individual level can be inherited. And of course moderated by experience and the environment.

[halloween]

2 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Again, as any geneticist will tell you, the only definition of fitness that makes objective sense in terms of fitness is reproductive success. Is there any evidence that people from Africa have less success in reproducing in Europe than do white Europeans? Generally one of the "threats" that the right wing in Europe touts about Africans is that they have a higher birth rate than do white natives.

So, if that's true, that would mean that Africans are more fit.

And why exactly did you refer to the jungle? Do you believe that most Africans live in the jungle? Or until recently, lived in the jungle? Is your researched based on the works of Edgar Rice Burroughs?

That is your measure, which ignores the factor of choice. Western countries have lower birth rates because their citizens choos lifestyle over mass reproduction, knowing that their children are much more likely to grow to reproduction age. How does the infant mortality rates of Africa, the death rate from curable diseases, and the constant fear of violent assault and death factor in the environmental fitness?

BTW you can have a jungle without having trees.

[lovelomsak]

12 minutes ago, halloween said:

hat is your measure, which ignores the factor of choice. Western countries have lower birth rates because their citizens choos lifestyle over mass reproduction, knowing that their children are much more likely to grow to reproduction age. H

This is the reality that so many miss. Western countries go for lifestyle. We live better because we chose to live better and live to the standard of better lifestyle.

  It appears to me many of the world cannot learn to live the same when trans planted into the  western world and maintain their uncivilized ways.They live the only way they know and refuse to learn. Some TV members are the poster boys for this mentality.

Edited February 6, 2018 by lovelomsak

[ilostmypassword]

33 minutes ago, halloween said:

That is your measure, which ignores the factor of choice. Western countries have lower birth rates because their citizens choos lifestyle over mass reproduction, knowing that their children are much more likely to grow to reproduction age. How does the infant mortality rates of Africa, the death rate from curable diseases, and the constant fear of violent assault and death factor in the environmental fitness?

BTW you can have a jungle without having trees.

No, it's not my measure. It's the measure used by science. Don't invoke a scientific theory if you want to pick and choose which parts of it to accept. But if you do, I'd call that unnatural selection.

[ilostmypassword]

25 minutes ago, lovelomsak said:

This is the reality that so many miss. Western countries go for lifestyle. We live better because we chose to live better and live to the standard of better lifestyle.

  It appears to me many of the world cannot learn to live the same when trans planted into the  western world and maintain their uncivilized ways.They live the only way they know and refuse to learn. Some TV members are the poster boys for this mentality.

Like people who grew up in these western countries and and can't even absorb the basics of evolutionary theory.

[halloween]

26 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

No, it's not my measure. It's the measure used by science. Don't invoke a scientific theory if you want to pick and choose which parts of it to accept. But if you do, I'd call that unnatural selection.

Which is exactly what civilization is, directed rather than natural selection. We choose to have less children because we don't need the numbers, we protect the weak and frail that would otherwise not survive, we channel aggression into sports and jail those who cannot control it, and those that do not value the rights and life of others are incarcerated in prison or mental institutions.

The 18yo drug addict girl is a perfect example. In Rome, she would have some chance of survival, she would have very little in Abuja, Luanda or Mogadishu. Bring the predators to Rome and she ends up cut into pieces to satisfy some animals lust.

Edited February 6, 2018 by halloween

[halloween]

4 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

You're a very confused person. Genetic selection operates on the individual level. You're using the word "selection" in a way that has nothing to do with genetics. Words used in a scientific way have a specific circumscribed meaning. What you're doing here has nothing to do with the scientific meaning of selection natural or otherwise.

55555. Yeah right. So you reject that civilisation has changed Homo sapiens. It is a form of directed selection, that makes some of us different from the beasts.

[Scott]

I think we have had enough with natural selection.   Please stay on topic.   The report button is starting to light up.  

[isaanbanhou]

16 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

The Chinese Canadian population of British Columbia is a good example of what can happen when an immigrant population assimilates with the host culture whilst preserving their own culture.

On the other hand, unbridled immigration creates a host of problems which are ignored by Left leaning politicians and pundits. Any negative reaction to their beliefs and actions are silenced by cries of "Racism!" This suppression of opinion is fuel for extremist groups.

 

IMHO, the Far Left is dying a slow death.

 

The extreme right doesn t shout racism, instead they cheer for increased immigration from "white" countries.

 

Oddly the poster chooses a visible minority to use as an example. Why not choose the original immigrants that arrived, the British, they didn t assimilate well did they. There are three times as many BC rsidents of British heritage than asian, There is an equal number of German heritage as asian.  Obviously to to poster immigrant means non white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_British_Columbia

Unbridled or extreme anything is likely not was, try eating only chocolate cake or celery for a month and see how you feel.

 

 

Edited February 6, 2018 by isaanbanhou

[lovelomsak]

59 minutes ago, samran said:

 

And what, not get a chance to hang out with the master race who have the run of Thai Visa now?  

 

Its okay to to spew crap here, so long as the keyboard warriors feelings aren’t hurt. 

Wow talk about a hate post. Try reading and comprehending and please leave your bigotry at home.

[lovelomsak]

The direction this thread is a perfect example of why there is a problem. 

  Some of us can opening talk about a subject and when some one makes a point the bashers do not like in they come with remarks attacking the posters.   Many guys here need to grow up and lose their narrow minded views. Or at the very least do not pass it on to their next generation.

  They want western charity but do not want westerners. Nice people huh.

  We try and show them the way and all we get is attacked. On the street in forums you name it. Many of us are tired of being targeted just because we know how to live good.and have the discipline to live good.If you would listen you might learn how to live good to and have no complaints. Instead you attack us for trying to help.

  Listening and learning pay big time ask any immigrant family from the 50's in Canada. They showed up withe clothes on their back now they are doctors lawyers teachers you name it . they cam listened and learned not we come we see we conquer.

Edited February 6, 2018 by Ron19
One unsuitable word removed.

[isaanbanhou]

4 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

Just letting you know that I have had  {and continue to have} you on ignore for quite sometime.

Ignoring the truth doesn t make it false, my favourite example of right wing hypocrisy who ignores me but replies  

[ilostmypassword]

12 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

Just letting you know that I have had  {and continue to have} you on ignore for quite sometime.

Is there a 2nd  ignore button for "ignore"? You seem to have found it. 

[Scott]

Troll post removed.   Please stay on topic.  

[samran]

1 hour ago, lovelomsak said:

Wow talk about a hate post. Try reading and comprehending and please leave your bigotry at home.

Diddums? Did I hurt you and your mates feelings for calling you all out as a modern day goose steppers? Have a consoling schnapps for me the next time you play dress up in your clown suits and white hoods.

 

If you want to see a real hate post, I suggest you read below...You poor petal you...

 

On 04/02/2018 at 9:00 AM, lovelomsak said:

Just the blacks karma . They can do it and no mention of racism  it is ok  the blacks,rob,rape and bully after coming in to the country. That is just the way they live we have to adjust But if a native of the country they miss use and abuse does anything against them it is rescist. 

  This guy is not racist he is a joiner. He just wants to live in his home country and be allowed to so what the blacks can do . If one group can do it why can we not all do it. He assimulates to their level.

 

Edited February 6, 2018 by samran

[Ron19]

Off topic post removed

[simple1]

5 hours ago, lovelomsak said:

The direction this thread is a perfect example of why there is a problem. 

  Some of us can opening talk about a subject and when some one makes a point the bashers do not like in they come with remarks attacking the posters.   Many guys here need to grow up and lose their narrow minded views. Or at the very least do not pass it on to their next generation.

  They want western charity but do not want westerners. Nice people huh.

  We try and show them the way and all we get is attacked. On the street in forums you name it. Many of us are tired of being targeted just because we know how to live good.and have the discipline to live good.If you would listen you might learn how to live good to and have no complaints. Instead you attack us for trying to help.

  Listening and learning pay big time ask any immigrant family from the 50's in Canada. They showed up withe clothes on their back now they are doctors lawyers teachers you name it . they cam listened and learned not we come we see we conquer.

I suggest you and your clique are getting criticism from a number of members due to your OTT rhetoric, to put it politely, mirroring the hard right. Being yelled at by way of extreme political propaganda is not a persuasive approach. Many in the clique repeatedly post links to unreliable sources with far right talking heads and so on which are in turn repeatedly removed by the Mods. You and others are alienating people who would listen to a reasonable argument, backed up by empirical data, from reliable sources. To summarise about time for you and your type to mature.

[samran]

5 hours ago, simple1 said:

I suggest you and your clique are getting criticism from a number of members due to your OTT rhetoric, to put it politely, mirroring the hard right. Being yelled at by way of extreme political propaganda is not a persuasive approach. Many in the clique repeatedly post links to unreliable sources with far right talking heads and so on which are in turn repeatedly removed by the Mods. You and others are alienating people who would listen to a reasonable argument, backed up by empirical data, from reliable sources. To summarise about time for you and your type to mature.

What is this you say? You mean their echo chamber circle jerk doesn’t cut the mustard with normal people. 

 

"I'm being discriminated against because I'm being intentionally and rudely inflammatory?!?! Poor me poor me! My rights, my rights!!!!!!"

Edited February 6, 2018 by samran