TizMe Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 How many victims of road traffic accidents are indeed suicide. Probably less than the number of official suicides that aren't.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 i heard there are people who suicide jumping into the ocean with brick shoes on their feet ....crazy if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Nick 4th Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If someone's had enough(for what ever reason)and they are of fairly sound mind ,what right has anyone got to step in and stop them. The attention seekers will still be alive tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penzman Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 If someone's had enough(for what ever reason)and they are of fairly sound mind ,what right has anyone got to step in and stop them.The attention seekers will still be alive tomorrow. Killing myself slowly everyday with LM kheows, no one stepping in to stop me but please do if you see me smoking on the parapet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinN Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Usually a healthy mind can not understand why people take their lives What about the attempted suicides you know the ones that don't actually do it? I understand it's a cry for help, if that's the case why don't they just shout, help? I think you might be confusing "Staged" suicide for attention, with "Attempted" suicide, where they really "Attempted" to end their life. They say that it is mostly women that stage suicide,and even if they are serious then they do it with pills as a gun or jumping is to messy and will screw up the face. I knew this broad that took a bunch of pills,and when she woke up and wasn't dead,she broke the glass that she used for water to swallow the pills,cut her wrists and also ###### near cut her own head off,but someone happened in about that time and got her an ambulance and she was some kinda pissed about it. My great uncle had cancer in his stomach and had been operated on and was dying a painful death,so he went out in the yard,sat in a lawn chair,stuck the barrel of a mod.99 savage .300 cal. in his mouth and blew his red hat up on the roof of the house. I never did like him anyway,he only used to pay me $2 a day for work in the hay fields when everyone else payed me $3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyespan Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 If someone's had enough(for what ever reason)and they are of fairly sound mind ,what right has anyone got to step in and stop them. It is a basic right of every human being to pull another out of despair, save another life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbkudu Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 If someone's had enough(for what ever reason)and they are of fairly sound mind ,what right has anyone got to step in and stop them. It is a basic right of every human being to pull another out of despair, save another life. I agree, suicide is a selfish act, especially if others are dependant (emotionally, financially) on that person. The person should be stopped and at least asked to reconsider the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maerim Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 The person should be stopped and at least asked to reconsider the decision. Most importantly where is the will kept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khutan Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 You're very right.This is not a funny matter. And I am also guilty of posting some "jokes" on the subject. I guess our way of exorcising it. Only happen to others. Does it,...? Bluecat, I do agree with you, I have had a fw friends go that way for their reasons. The shock and dislocation the the family and friends left behind can be terrible. I would like to comment though, many have been chased by the Demons or the "Black Cloud" etc etc, and often the only way it can dealt with is by laughing at it. After all, laughter is considered to be a manifestation of fear. Soldiers going into combat often have a laugh at whats going to happen. So making ligkt of this terrible subject may be more a defence mechignism rather than bad taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatter than harry Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 After all, laughter is considered to be a manifestation of fear. So my laughing at the Andy Capp cartoon strip is because I'm afraid of pencil drawn Northerners? Now you mention it I think I am.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maerim Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 Tip of the day. All of you who want to say bye bye and are serious, when it comes to slitting your wrists do it from the hand up to the elbow as a lateral incision is easily fixed up, providing they find you in time. The way I have suggested is an absolute way of departing this life. Good luck and goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroll Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 There are entire websites dedicated to this stuff. A worthwhile read is the American 'Journal of Pathology', which has a monthly feature on the most bizzare suicides. I'll leave it to those interested to search for details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 =mbkudu,Sat 2004-07-03, 13:09:49 It is a basic right of every human being to pull another out of despair, save another life. I agree, suicide is a selfish act, especially if others are dependant (emotionally, financially) on that person. The person should be stopped and at least asked to reconsider the decision. You might here start to argue, if euthanasia is equally a basic human right. To help another out of despair, to help him to die.... Suicide is not always a selfish act, especially if it is impossible to continue the own life due to incurable illness and severe pain.... Another totally different question is of course suicide out of emotional reasons. Such suicide is done out of anger, disappointment, out of a sudden confusion.....I am sure, most of such people, who committed suicide, would talk rather different one week later and regret and reconsider such a decision. Yes, such a person, if possible should be stopped.... I agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maerim Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Do all the Farangs propping up bars all day long drinking themselves to death count as suicide statistics? Or is it a case of accidental death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecat Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 The shock and dislocation the the family and friends left behind can be terrible. Can not be. It is. Especially if the one commiting suicide is young. As more and more of them are,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenk3z Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 The best way to avoid suicide in Pattaya is to not answer the door to your condo. kenk3z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghengis Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 My father tried to commit suicide when I was about 10. I found him on the bathroom floor with his wrists cut with a razor. He spent the rest of his life in mental hospitals or other institutions. What drives a person to suicide? I think it is when you have lost control of your life. When you are in a hole and there is no way to get out. When you have lost hope. Thailand is a great place for rich farangs - a kind of paradise, but if your finances take a dive then it can turn into a nightmare. Having burnt bridges to come to live in Thailand, many people despair at the idea of going back to the old country. Living in Thailand can be a brutal experience for the poor. So many poor people take what they think is the only way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroll Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Very true, but, and this is easier to say than live, it is often the delusionary clinging to an identity which causes suffering and despair. Sorry, I just spent some time in the Buddhist forum, but also speaking from personal experience, having had a few 'earthquakes' during my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naja Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 One can't stop people from joking about suicides,but I do endorse Buddaboy's statement that it is no joking matter. My 22 year old son committed suicide by ingesting cyanide.When I spoke to him on the phone 24hrs before the tragic event,he said he was going to do something illegal.Never did it enter my mind that he was going to take his own life. His untimely death has had an enormous impact on family members,especially his mother ,even now 20 years after his death.She still has not come to terms with her grief.Nor has she read his final letter. For more than 10 yrs,his sister and I[father] never uttered his name,and it took me a futher 2 years before I could discuss the event without being overwhelmed with emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecat Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I'm afraid nobody can post after you, Naja. I mean nothing we can say is relevant to you. And I'm not talking about jokes only. What is relevant compared to your loss? Nothing. We all hope it will not happen to us. And we will sure never be able to fully understand your loss. My sincere condolences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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