Transgender people can wear clothes of their choice at law training course

[Stubby]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I definitely agree with that but on the other hand if a man you know informs you he is whatever for example "gender fluid" and perhaps he asks you to refer to him as they, does it really hurt you so much to politely agree?  Believe it our not, I find the they thing completely absurd  but I still value treating people with respect if they make a polite request. On the other hand if you mess up one time and call him he and then he/they/whatever tries to get you fired for that, that is evil. 

 

Another thing I won't do (but it's likely generational) is announce "my pronouns" upon meeting someone and asking for their pronouns. I'm going to assume the standard UNLESS the person presents as transgender in which case I would assume they want what they appear as. But as above if a person tells that information unsolicited may as well listen to them. 

 

In life I find a lot of things absurd, such as Jews for Jesus or Gays for Trump, but if that's how such people identify, well, they're telling you who they are, and not agreeing to accept their self identities doesn't really make any sense.

Good points, well made. And that, my friend, is the purpose of a rational debate ;)

[RanongCat]

On 5/4/2022 at 6:02 PM, Stubby said:

PEOPLE CAN WEAR WHAT THEY LIKE, BUT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES

 

IT ALL CHANGED FOR WOMEN

 

It's a funny ol' world. I remember when the so-called unisex clothing first came out. I thought it was a new range of fashionwear for men and women... in my ignorance. It wasn't that. It just meant that women could start wearing trousers, pin-striped suits, flat caps, trilbies, long socks, and flat shoes without the stigma. There's nothing wrong with any of the above, but unisex clothing was basically men's clobber on women. 

 

NO CHANGE FOR MEN!

 

Heterosexual blokes, on the other hand, didn't start wearing blouses, long dresses, fishnets, high heels, or playing netball. Of course, they could if they wanted to, but most haven't gone down that path, at least not in public. And let's be honest. If a man anywhere attends a mainstream job interview in hot pants, a midriff shirt, and blood-red lipstick, well... he's not going to make the shortlist, is he.

 

CHANGING ROLES?

 

I do believe male makeup is now quite popular among Gen Z and Millennials males and less of a thing with women. In fact, modern women in the west are more like men than men ever were. That's not the case with transgender Thais. In fact, some of the best-looking women in this country are fellas. It's probably why they can... and should.... be allowed to wear what they want.

 

Me? Well… I couldn't give a rat's ar$e what anyone wears be they gay, straight, or Australian. But what I won't do is try to learn the 100 newly recognized genders and their associated pronouns. 

 

Stubby

Australians  no problem ?  phew !  lol