Trump throwing his toys out of the pram once again.

On Monday, President Trump signed three proclamations that are set to impose 50% tariffs in response to Canadian actions around automobiles, alcohol, and dairy products. The new duties would apply to a wide array of Canadian goods.

A senior administration official described the impact as "ranging from wine to hockey sticks to cement." The automobile proclamation alone listed 18 pages of goods eligible if the action goes forward.

The tariffs are set to be levied under Section 338 of the Tariff Act of 1930 but won't go into effect for 30 days. The use of this law is likely to bring forth immediate legal challenges but does allow tariffs of up to 50%.

https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/article/trump-announces-50-tariffs-focused-on-canadian-autos-dairy-and-alcohol-in-response-to-continued-discrimination-211628074.html

The tariffs will not apply to goods like oil, of which Canada is a major producer and which US refineries rely on, as well as potash, a key ingredient in fertilizer that US farmers use extensively.

Did Canada ever consider adding a 50% EXPORT tariff on those goods?

Canada doesnt have a damn say in any of this.

Chilly con Carne shouldve stayed on as the King's Banker.

If it were not for California produce, Canadians would starve.

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

The tariffs will not apply to goods like oil, of which Canada is a major producer and which US refineries rely on, as well as potash, a key ingredient in fertilizer that US farmers use extensively.

Did Canada ever consider adding a 50% EXPORT tariff on those goods?

I think they did, and I think they will -- making the hapless American consumer pay double for the privilege of supporting Trump.

I think it is great, it is hastening the decoupling from the USA, while strengthening the connection of Canada to an ever stronger Europe.

Let's just hope we have decoupled enough, so an imploding USA does not pull us all down as well. Well, sseing the USA burn to ashes might be even worth that.

Edited July 21Jul 21 by jts-khorat

There is only one way to handle a bully. Appeasing Trump just emboldens him to go further.

9 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

If it were not for California produce, Canadians would starve.

Lots of fresh produce from Latin America makes its way into Canadian supermarkets, so too does domestic 'hot house' produced vegetables. It will push up the price of course. In any case, many Canadians (already) weren't buying US produce. Edit to add, California strawberries suck - red on the outside and white and tasteless on the inside. Another edit to add: your wine sucks too - tastes like dirt.

Edited July 22Jul 22 by ronnie50

10 hours ago, CallumWK said:

The tariffs will not apply to goods like oil, of which Canada is a major producer and which US refineries rely on, as well as potash, a key ingredient in fertilizer that US farmers use extensively.

Did Canada ever consider adding a 50% EXPORT tariff on those goods?

In the early days of the tariffs, Canada (provinces Ontario and Quebec) considered tariffs on Canadian energy exports to the eastern US. But they backed off. It was considered a 'nuclear' option but one that could make the situation worse. For example, eastern US states rely heavily on Hydro Quebec to supply additional power to their grid. Shutting that off could turn out the lights, heat etc., in some parts. The same goes for agriclutural inputs - but again it would evoke a nasty response. Also, I don't think it's true that only Canada and China introduced (or threatened) countering duties as a response. The EU did initially. Anyway, Canada will now have to get a bit nastier and intensive in its response to the 50% nonsense. Trump is digging a deeper and deeper hole each day, across all fronts, and just doesn't know when to stop digging.

3 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

eastern US states rely heavily on Hydro Quebec to supply additional power to their grid.

Doug will shut their power off. He's threatened to do it once.

All this because the new bridge will take money out of Trump's buddy's pocket.

3 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Doug will shut their power off. He's threatened to do it once.

All this because the new bridge will take money out of Trump's buddy's pocket.

Carney has had to reign in Doug Ford a couple of times. But many agree with Ford. Regarding the bridge, Carney did a great job of making Trump think the terms had changed in favor of the US, when in fact Carney just reworded it a bit. Nothing substantial has changed.

I think I read that the Mayor of Windsor said he may put a toll on the road from the other bridge. One of his his roads not a provincial or federal road.

And the reason for those new tariffs is..... the failure of the previous Trump's tariff policy! 🤣🤣🤣

Trying to think of two neighboring countries with a larger gap in competency between its leaders, but nothing comes to mind.

We just have to be pleased that at the end of everyday it's day closer

to getting some normality and clarity back in the World ,and we don't

have to listen to the lies and the ranting of a narcissistic,megalomaniac ,

regards worgeordie

No worries. Maybe a few people in the US already noticed that the tariffs are paid by them - not Canada, China, EU.

So US prices will go up a bit more. Trump doesen't care, because he loves inflation. And his MAGA - lemmings follow him unconditionally.

It's just astonishing to see so many US citizens existing who cheer for their own gravedigger.

While Trump was raging with his juvenile tweets, Carney was online with Mexico's president to make an offer the United States could not match. Reliability within 48 Hours. Canada and Mexico shocked the world, they unveiled the Northern Corridor, a trade Super Highway designed to treat America not as a partner but it has an obstacle, to ship around. Carney's exact words "when one door closes, we will find a better door". That wasn't a diplomacy, that was a declaration of economic independence. And Canada has just come up with a way to tax American transport between the US and Alaska, due to poor American policy those shipments are going to become far more expensive, as America cannot afford to ship them by sea. Oops. Didn't think about that.

What Washington doesn't understand is that it is not about who screams the loudest, it's about who the world can't function without. Canada has built themselves into the one country American can't cut out regardless of how reckless Trump behaves. They have total infrastructure integration, your iPhone uses Canadian hydroelectric power, your home is built with superior Canadian lumber, your car runs on Canadian oil, you can't replace all of that overnight.

In February a lumber mill in Illinois closed. Because Canadian lumber suddenly became too expensive, after Trump's tariff terrors. This wasn't a failing mill, this was a mill that had been running for 60 years, employing 300 families. It didn't die from Canadian competition, Trump killed it. It died from bad American policy.

There is no surge capacity to replace Canadian imports, even analysts on Fox Business admitted it could take a decade to rebuild domestic production. And even if rebuilt, will it be competitive? So instead of protecting American jobs, tariffs will do the opposite, they will make lumber unaffordable in the middle of a housing crisis, and while America is having a political meltdown, Canada was having a strategy meeting. Trump expected the usual script, retaliation, angry press conferences, maybe a new round of tariffs. Instead Canada did something no one saw coming, no shouting, no threats, no photo ops with fingerpointing, politicians stepped up to a podium and announced a 1 billion dollar support program for Canadian lumber companies. Every company taking the money had to commit to Canada's new 25 billion dollar domestic housing program, in other words America just gave us our own lumber back and we're going to use it to fuel a big housing bill. Thanks for the favor Trump!

Because of silly political grand standing a kitchen renovation that cost $30,000 last year, now costs $40,000. Not because there wasn't enough wood or steel but because of political theater in Washington. Multiply that by millions throughout America. Trump promised to fix the housing crisis, but instead he's destroying it, along with the US economy, and the nation's relevancy to the entire planet. Nations all over the world are simply finding more reliable partners.

Edited July 22Jul 22 by spidermike007

30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump promised to fix the housing crisis, but instead he's destroying it, along with the US economy, and the nation's relevancy to the entire planet. Nations all over the world are simply finding more reliable partners.

Hey there Mr. Spider -- we both hit the jackpot courtesy the same guy -- I am first:

#1 way to detect a conspiracy? When someone says this is not a conspiracy.

Edited July 22Jul 22 by JerryM

Big Don' must have a love child somewhere called Tariff.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Justins Wife and Melanias Husband must be about the same age ? , likewise Justin and Melania

"Justins Wife and Melanias Husband must be about the same age ?"

Not sure - did I miss something or did you just posted some bs ?

His former wife, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau is 51 years young.

His current partner Katy Perry is 41.

Melanias Husband is... 30 or 40 years older. But facts and numbers are not so important for you maybe?!

17 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Not sure - did I miss something or did you just posted some bs ?

Nope, I asked a question .

Its rather inappropriate to reply with "BS" when you answer a question

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Nope, I asked a question .

Its rather inappropriate to reply with "BS" when you answer a question

Your question "Justins Wife and Melanias Husband must be about the same age ?" is clearly BS.

Good, it's really great that we both talked about it and I still have the same oppinion.

22 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Your question "Justins Wife and Melanias Husband must be about the same age ?" is clearly BS.

Good, it's really great that we both talked about it and I still have the same oppinion.

How can a question be BS ?

Bessent, while struggling to try to defend Trump's incredibly ignorant new tariff policies sounded about as dumb as the street trash president himself.

Maria Bartiromo, the show’s host, questioned him on the new policies, and Bessent appeared to struggle to answer her.

“As the president has imposed a 50% tariff on some Canadian goods, including cars, alcohol and dairy products,” she continued. “What is the trade discrimination that is at hand causing the president to hike tariffs here on Canada?”

“Well, I think it’s something that we, we’ve discussed with our Canadian colleagues for a long time, and uh, they haven’t done anything about it,” he replied.

“They’re highly discriminatory on dairy products,” he continued, before appearing to struggle.

“U.S…uh…U.S….uh…alcohol and beverages have been removed from Canadian shelves,” he said. “So you, this is really just, uh, reciprocity in terms of what in terms of what they’ve done to our, our great U.S. companies.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/fox-news-viewers-turn-on-trump-official-who-they-say-is-a-bumbling-idiot/ar-AA28od7t?ocid=sapphireappshare

13 hours ago, Schoggibueb said:

His current partner Katy Perry is 41.

That's a damn drag man.

C'mon. Don't be dumb.

Should have made it 100%, then banned Carney from the US for life.

32 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Should have made it 100%, then banned Carney from the US for life.

Why do you hate American consumers so much?

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

Why do you hate American consumers so much?

I don't.

Why do you hate people of South Asian heritage so much? Why do you associate them with idiots?

56 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I don't.

Why do you hate people of South Asian heritage so much? Why do you associate them with idiots?

Is this you? It is, isn't it.😂

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