Butterfly Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 If you have to ask questions like "what guarantees do I have this is valid for the rest of my life" and "how will I earn my $25k back" then this program is clearly not for you. Posting negative comments about a program that does not apply to you and which you probably can't comfortably afford to join is really not constructive. Interesting comment. Are you a drug lord ? or are you looking for money to launder ? I have the perfect solution for you: I have a bar to sell in Pattaya Since asking questions does not seem to be your strong point, then you won't mind paying me 1m bath for my bar, right ? what do you get for 1m ? free bar fines in the all bars in that soi (from our soi agreement), free girls and free drinks for you and your buddies, and a chance to show off in the streets of Pattaya as a "bar owner" So, what do you think, are you a buyer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Thailand Elite Card Awarded to UNICEF Honorees Harry Belafonte, Halle Berry, Katie Couric, Sir Roger Moore, Nana Mouskouri, Vanessa Redgrave, and Sir Peter Ustinov George, why do you bring such vital information so late? Nana Mouskouri, Vanessa Redgrave: 'Dream of my younger years." Halle Berry: Now please introduce me, I am overweight (especially around the 'berry') but only because I am supporting my local pubS with a capital 'S'. Otherwise, I am young in mind, I mean I like Doris day and Frankie Sinatra, some more? allow me time to recuperate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphic Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 So, what percentage of cards in circulation so far were given away? Whatever the answer, I am sure these recipients will be grateful. Sir Peter Ustinov would certainly appreciate the visa service, as he is regularly turned down in London when he applies for multiple tourist stamps, on suspicion that he will be teaching English. Vanessa Redgrave, well known rabble rouser and socialist, will breathe a sigh of relief that, presumably, she is no longer a concern to the Thai authorities because of her history of attendaance at demonstrations. And Roger Moore probably plays golf but can't afford the normal green fee's, so he will be overjoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun ? Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 So, what percentage of cards in circulation so far were given away?Whatever the answer, I am sure these recipients will be grateful. Sir Peter Ustinov would certainly appreciate the visa service, as he is regularly turned down in London when he applies for multiple tourist stamps, on suspicion that he will be teaching English. Vanessa Redgrave, well known rabble rouser and socialist, will breathe a sigh of relief that, presumably, she is no longer a concern to the Thai authorities because of her history of attendaance at demonstrations. And Roger Moore probably plays golf but can't afford the normal green fee's, so he will be overjoyed. I guess you could compare it to offering George or Tony free business class flights by BA or AA. I hope this was not their donation to the united way or whom ever was holding the fund raiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christel Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 For anyone who has an interest in learning more about the Thai Elite Card Membership program, I invite them to call, email or fax Christel Dellepoort of Business Mission Asia Co., Ltd., the Authorized Agent for The Thai Elite Card. Christel has the unique perspective of being an Agent for this Membership program, as well as being an Expat and managing her own company here in Thailand, and therefore experienced in dealing with the Thai Business Culture and Government Agencies and Departments. She welcomes any questions, comments and suggestions and can be reached via: Telephone: 02-636-7600 Fax: 02-636-7007 Email: [email protected] Website: www.businessmissionasia.com/thailandelite.htm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun ? Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Take the dot off the end of htm. to get to the site. At least the site did not time out as the other thaielite site does. Still nothing more than a glimpse of what you may get. If it is life time then why only visa for 5 year period, will they not let you in after that to use the card ( issue date = 5 years use as of now). Hotel and golf course discounts are availible for free already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IT Manager Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Yes there are all of the above and as of yesterday, I have them and am happy to organise them to be sent. PM me if you are serious with your phone number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Dion, why don't you give any comment? You got 7845 views and 126 replies. If only 1% of the people replying are serious you got (statistically speaking) Baht 1,260.000. I do not know your position in the product, but wouldn't it be appropriate to do something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Perhaps he's in the Singapore head office Axel. Or handing out free cards to 'names' around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 the "elite card" is for Thailand the bank that excepts the payments is in Singapore the web site is in Sweden and Dion is back to being the number one tout in patpong such international flavor... Business Mission Asia Co., Ltd. Robert Holmgren c/o Internet Everything AB, Box 61 79622 Alvdalen Domain Name: BUSINESSMISSIONASIA.COM Administrative Contact: Robert Holmgren [email protected] Business Mission Asia Co., Ltd. c/o Internet Everything AB Box 61 Alvdale, SE 79622 SE Phone: +46-90197777 Fax: +46-90190077 Technical Contact: Robert Holmgren [email protected] Business Mission Asia Co., Ltd. c/o Internet Everything AB Box 61 Alvdale, SE 79622 SE Phone: +46-90197777 Fax: +46-90190077 Record updated on 2003-05-06 19:11:09 Record created on 2001-11-12 Record expires on 2004-11-12 Database last updated on 2003-12-11 21:12:06 EST Domain servers in listed order: NS1.INTERNET-EVERYTHING.COM 212.32.190.101 NS2.INTERNET-EVERYTHING.COM 212.32.190.102 Registrant: Holmgren, Robert (INTERNET-EVERYTHING-DOM) Internet Everything AB Box 61 Alvdalen 79622 SE Domain Name: INTERNET-EVERYTHING.COM Administrative Contact: Holmgren, Robert (RHJ89) [email protected] Robert Holmgren Sofiehemsv gen 62 907 38 UME SWEDEN Ume 907 38 SWE 469-135-045 fax: 469-135-045 Technical Contact: Internet Everything Sweden AB (V7563-OR) [email protected] Box 61 Alvdalen, SE 79622 SE +46 250-71977 Record expires on 15-Nov-2005. Record created on 15-Nov-1999. Database last updated on 11-Dec-2003 21:33:20 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.INTERNET-EVERYTHING.NET 212.32.190.101 NS2.INTERNET-EVERYTHING.NET 212.32.190.102 NS1.INTERNET-EVERYTHING.COM 212.32.190.101 NS2.INTERNET-EVERYTHING.COM 212.32.190.102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 An interesting history for a Thai Government organization isn't it ? Hmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Here is the latest: Thai scheme to woo rich tourists hits snag Government-owned firm not ready to let foreigners buy land as promised in Elite Card programme BANGKOK - A new Thai programme aimed at attracting rich and famous foreign tourists is having problems delivering on one of the promised privileges - freedom to buy up to 1.6ha of land. The Thailand Privilege Card Company (TPCC), a government-owned firm set up to promote the Elite Card programme, said it was not yet ready to provide the service. 'The privilege is there, but we are not able to service it yet,' A TPCC executive told The Straits Times yesterday. TPCC director Paisit Kaenchan explained: 'Because the law says foreigners can't own land, we are in discussions with a law firm, and also with the land and revenue departments. 'It is a promise to our members and we stand by it, and hopefully by next month, we will be ready.' The concept, announced at the fanfare launch of the card last month, was that Elite Card holders could buy land or landed property by proxy, with the title being held by TPCC. But the TPCC website currently does not list this privilege. At the launch, Mr Paisit said the property option would add significantly to revenue under the programme, which aims to boost Thailand's brand image among the upmarket tourist segment. TPCC aims to sell as many as 50,000 of the Elite Cards. So far, said Mr Paisit, between 150 and 200 had been sold. For US$25,000, card holders get a lifetime of free spa treatments, health check-ups, limousine transfers, golf rounds and discounted hotel rooms. One of the hotels listed on the website, the Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit, has committed to 30 per cent discounts on its room rates for Elite Card holders. A long-time expatriate resident of Bangkok said a few of his acquaintances had bought it, but they were Europeans who had export businesses and spent several months every year in Thailand. 'For them, US$25,000 is nothing much,' he said. He said the fact the property option had not been sorted out had taken some of the lustre off the programme, but businessmen were already setting up Thai companies and buying property through them anyway. The government's main target is high-end tourists from the immediate region: Japan, China, Hong Kong, Singapore and Taiwan. TPCC had estimated that the programme could attract about 20 billion baht of additional tourist spending and investments in eight years. --Straits Times 2003-12-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabaijai Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 "TPCC had estimated that the programme could attract about 20 billion baht of additional tourist spending and investments in eight years." This is the crux of the matter that many participating in this thread seem to be missing. Generally speaking, farangs are too questioning to find this card appealing. High-rolling Asian execs, on the other hand, love this sort of 'clubby' feel. The value in the card is simply the feeling - call it an illusion if you like - of being part of the upper crust. Like ordering a Benz with all the brand and model numbers in gold. And just as tacky ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 the "elite card" is for Thailandthe bank that excepts the payments is in Singapore Stupid second guessed Internet rumours. I just joined and was asked to wire my money to the Krung Thai Bank in Bangkok. You people should get the facts straight before you waste board space ridiculing things that aren't even true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Since asking questions does not seem to be your strong point, then you won't mind paying me 1m bath for my bar, right ? Asking questions is one of my specialties, however I ask questions to people who have the answers rather than most in this thread who second guess and get worked up by rumors spread in Internet chatrooms. And keep your bar, I am only interested in losing money if I can have fun doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickFarang Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 "I just joined and was asked to wire my money to the Krung Thai Bank in Bangkok." Keeping in mind that there are several sales agents and they may have different finanacial arrangements. The 5 year visa might make a lot of sense for someone who cannot take time from his business for a visa run. I can see that. Orino76, what was it about the card that made you realize it was right for you? RickF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Orino76, what was it about the card that made you realize it was right for you? I have a factory in a neighboring country but spend most of my time in Thailand, I fly in and out of Thailand all the time and am not comfortable accumulating too many 30 day stamps or tourist visas, and as I pass through the airport a lot I like the limo and fast track services etc. $25k is not a lot of money to me so I find this card is perfect for me. Like I posted earlier I don't believe anyone will earn his $25k back from the discounts but for frequent international travelers who don't work in Thailand and can miss $25k this program is a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 If you have to ask questions like "what guarantees do I have this is valid for the rest of my life" and "how will I earn my $25k back" then this program is clearly not for you. ....comfortable. If you have to ask for a price on a Ferrari, a boat, a GF you certainly cannot afford it. (I don't have neither) To calculate the advantages of this card is just a common business sense. It is a proposal which found my interest and finally I decide against. Anyway, lot's of good contributions in this threat pro- and con Fair enough, but I think you misinterpreted the comment. What I meant was that you will never earn back your money through the discounts so if there is not some obvious immediate benefit to buying the membership: e.g.: you need the visa & airport services or want to buy land then this card is not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun ? Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 The only thing is the Thai government is not offering all of this stuff. If the Thai government was the one doing the offering then you would not have as much worry. Orion, can you cobble a business license together to get a visa if 25G is not a problem. There may be several companies that may be able to get you a business visa if you was willing to slip them 50G baht a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Posted December 18, 2003 Author Share Posted December 18, 2003 Thank you everyone. I am glad some of you find Thailand Elite special. At first I just thought of the way to promote this membership. Eventhough, some of you are not interested but some are become the member already! I am willing to answer all of the questions of those who are really interested in becoming the members. Just contact me again [email protected] or call on 05-123 3112 All the best, Dion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Fair enough, but I think you misinterpreted the comment.What I meant was that you will never earn back your money through the discounts so if there is not some obvious immediate benefit to buying the membership: e.g.: you need the visa & airport services or want to buy land then this card is not for you. Makes sense for you to take the card. As I said, one visit to an agent resulted in my friend and customer to sign up. His reasons are very similar to yours. Live in Thailand, work in surrounding countries and too many 30 days-chops. He did pay to SIN, as requested. (I did explain the SIN-route before in the first threat http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3882&hl=) If you play golf and fly a lot you can save th 1 million within, let's say, 4-5 years. The electric cart I use for a long time already, which is there for everybody free of charge (but a big box marked 'tips'). Came back Thuesday night, jumped on the cart around gate 52 and made it to imm. before the pax from 2 earlier flights reached. On e question. You paid in Baht. Did you have to pay VAT? Or perhaps the invoice says Baht 934579 plus 7%. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 I paid in USD, 25k exactly with no mention of VAT. I dealt directly with TPC, perhaps your friend went through an agent? And yes, if you're one of those avid golfers from Singapore, Hongkong, Seoul or wherever who flies to Thailand twice a month to play golf then you could actually earn your 25k back in a couple of years and get a whole lot of benefits to boot. Khun? - I am aware of the other cheaper more sensible options available but this is the most convenient one, plus I like the additional benefits. I understand the risk involved but I think that as long as the current government is in place the visa arrangements will stay in place and I would be willing to bet a lot more than 25k that Thaksin won't be unseated in the next years elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Kierig Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Hi all... A friend and long time resident and known author in Thailand has just informed me that there was quite a lot of discussion regarding the benefits of the Thailand Elite Card going on in this forum, and advised me to get involved and try to help clear the air. My name is...Leslie Kierig Sales and Marketing Advisor Thailand Privilege Card Co., Ltd. email: [email protected] I have been singled out by the TPC as the person to answer all inquiries regarding benefits, terms, and conditions, etc. for both potential clients and broker/agents. If there are any issues that you would like specifically addressed, please contact me directly at: [email protected] As previously mentioned by Khun Dion...he is a very well informed sales representative, and can also assist in this matter. Best regards, Leslie Kierig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickFarang Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Leslie, Would you start by clearing up the questions posed on this board? I think that would go a long way in helping people (like me) decide whether further follow-up is worthwhile. Sincerely, RickF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IT Manager Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 There is a specific information question now running under this topic. To save confusion, I will ask that Leslie answers questions there rather than here. Thanks for your understanding guys. IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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