gotlost Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 See that The Nation has removed the Thai Visa forum form its home page on the web ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Correct. We are not renewing the advertising contract with The Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted October 16, 2010 Author Share Posted October 16, 2010 Understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkawish Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Correct. We are not renewing the advertising contract with The Nation. The more important question is WHY? It appears to be a profitable proposition for both. George, care to explain? Giving just a yes or no answer just does not seem to be adequate to satisfy the curiosity of the members. But as always, as a proprietor, you do have your rights to remain silence. And in silence tells everyone that it is none of your biz, which is also understandable as well. Cheers, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Correct. We are not renewing the advertising contract with The Nation. Does that mean that members may quote from other Thai newspapers, like The Bangkok Post, again ? Or Is there still an -almost- exclusivity for The Nation ? And, if so, why ? LaoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 It's that time of the year when we decide which partners we will work with for the next budget year. I can't really comment on which partners we will buy/barter content from as we haven't decided who to go with yet. So no changes for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Yeah, notice the Nation logo has disappeared from the main Thaivisa logo at the top of the site also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Yeah, notice the Nation logo has disappeared from the main Thaivisa logo at the top of the site also. Yes, we wanted to brand Thaivisa as more independent, and that is what is happening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Yeah, notice the Nation logo has disappeared from the main Thaivisa logo at the top of the site also. Yes, we wanted to brand Thaivisa as more independent, and that is what is happening now. For what it is worth I think seeming to be and being independent can only benefit all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Yeah, notice the Nation logo has disappeared from the main Thaivisa logo at the top of the site also. Yes, we wanted to brand Thaivisa as more independent, and that is what is happening now. Good decision - an improvement I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 (edited) Sawasdee Khrup, Khun George, Whatever business factors, and personal choices, prevail in your decision, best of luck, and long life to you and TV ! If you are "independent," our hope is that you will clarify the issue of "copyright:" as brought up with you before via PM. We'd be happy to post some original material (fiction, longer essays, but related to, or set in Chiang Mai, and in other parts of Thailand) on the Chiang Mai forum, which might be perhaps of wider interest (we hope at least entertaining) ... ... if you have a reasonable policy, as followed by so many other websites for writing (such as RedRoom), that publishing material on your forums can have copyright claimed in accordance with international standards, and you accept, by publishing on TV, a virtual "one-time only" grant of usage, that does not include the right to reprint, excerpt, or otherwise make any use, commercial or otherwise, except for the standard practice of permission to use small quotes. If you are interested in having a moderated writers' forum, please PM us. best, from both the human and the Orangutan co-habiting this aging human meat-package, ~o:37; Edited October 18, 2010 by orang37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Orang37, I have sent you a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShopBoy Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 How do i view a consolidated view of what is being posted like on on Nation before it was taken off ? :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturn Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Sawasdee Khrup, Khun George, Whatever business factors, and personal choices, prevail in your decision, best of luck, and long life to you and TV ! If you are "independent," our hope is that you will clarify the issue of "copyright:" as brought up with you before via PM. We'd be happy to post some original material (fiction, longer essays, but related to, or set in Chiang Mai, and in other parts of Thailand) on the Chiang Mai forum, which might be perhaps of wider interest (we hope at least entertaining) ... ... if you have a reasonable policy, as followed by so many other websites for writing (such as RedRoom), that publishing material on your forums can have copyright claimed in accordance with international standards, and you accept, by publishing on TV, a virtual "one-time only" grant of usage, that does not include the right to reprint, excerpt, or otherwise make any use, commercial or otherwise, except for the standard practice of permission to use small quotes. If you are interested in having a moderated writers' forum, please PM us. best, from both the human and the Orangutan co-habiting this aging human meat-package, ~o:37; i wouldn't want to do business with someone who didn't have the discretion to pitch privately. I fear we will never see the days back where thaivisa was an excellent aggregation of news sources rather than bound to a single provider, though one can only hope. good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Yeah, notice the Nation logo has disappeared from the main Thaivisa logo at the top of the site also. Yes, we wanted to brand Thaivisa as more independent, and that is what is happening now. good move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 How do i view a consolidated view of what is being posted like on on Nation before it was taken off ? :jap: You probably mean this (works better in an RSS reader like iGoogle) - http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/rss/forums/1-thailand-news-thaivisacom/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaethon Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I just noticed today, when a TV topic came up in a Google search, that the "The Nation" section of the TV logo has vanished and found the 'Forum' link on www.nationmultimedia.com is dead. So I can resume posting openly on TV without being 'associated with a particular news organization. You may or may not consider this good news... Cheers, K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShopBoy Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 How do i view a consolidated view of what is being posted like on on Nation before it was taken off ? :jap: You probably mean this (works better in an RSS reader like iGoogle) - http://www.thaivisa....ws-thaivisacom/ Not this. It's the latest forum topic being created shown on the nation website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Thats great news! You need to stay independent, go out get yourselves some real stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seekingasylum Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Yeah, notice the Nation logo has disappeared from the main Thaivisa logo at the top of the site also. Yes, we wanted to brand Thaivisa as more independent, and that is what is happening now. More independent of whom? The advertisers earning revenue for you against whom no poster may comment adversely even if such criticism is warranted lest you lose your profits for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Yes, we wanted to brand Thaivisa as more independent, and that is what is happening now. More independent of whom? The advertisers earning revenue for you against whom no poster may comment adversely even if such criticism is warranted lest you lose your profits for example? They aren't part of the Thaivisa brand though. What George is saying that he wants the brand to appear more independent even if the website itself isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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