wandrinstar Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 The Mitsu i had was a G.Waggon , never missed a beat, but swayed a fair bit in the mountains. But nothing like the Spivo. Now im told the PJS is well above them , by an Ex Tuna Bandit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 But the 2wd model comes with the 4 gearbox. What do you guys think? This guy thinks that if you wait a week or so you might see the new 2wd version of this car available with a 5 gear box, auto and even manual. See my earlier postings on the subject for the other new details and price. I double-checked my info with a couple of dealers and they all expect to have at least the brochures next week ... Limbo Today we were called by one of the dealerships (six of the same owner in Chiang Rai Province) and told that the dark-blue color might only be available for the 2,4 liter gasoline version (???). I can't image that they are completely un-informed, but slowly I start to wonder. Ordering now means delivery in January is what the staff says now. Maybe selling the remaining lot of the present version needs some more time. I start to wonder if the brochures are printed yet. Let's hope their mechanics are better informed 555! Limbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 But the 2wd model comes with the 4 gearbox. What do you guys think? This guy thinks that if you wait a week or so you might see the new 2wd version of this car available with a 5 gear box, auto and even manual. See my earlier postings on the subject for the other new details and price. I double-checked my info with a couple of dealers and they all expect to have at least the brochures next week ... Limbo Today we were called by one of the dealerships (six of the same owner in Chiang Rai Province) and told that the dark-blue color might only be available for the 2,4 liter gasoline version (???). Limbo Sorry for all my misinformation: The darkblue will be available for all versions! It looks good, especially in the eyes of those among us who like blue I suppose But only the 2,4 gasoline version (915.000 Baht) will have a manual transmission. Nice thing is that the paddle shift is going to be standard in the GT 2wd version as well. Further more the five gear automatic transmission and indeed the 17 inch wheels, the aircon outlets in the ceiling, also for the second and third row, the protection strip on the side, side turn lamps on the mirrors and some other minor frivolities. Well worth the thirty thousand Baht extra I suppose. Limbo If it can be delivered in the beginning or the end of January, who knows? But that is what these charming and enthousiastic Mitsu boys and girls don't know yet. Just pay two thousand and wait ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Well worth the thirty thousand Baht extra I suppose. Extra 30K? I love it! One more price increase and I'll be able to sell the Mrs' PJS for what I paid for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Well worth the thirty thousand Baht extra I suppose. Extra 30K? I love it! One more price increase and I'll be able to sell the Mrs' PJS for what I paid for it A couple of weeks ago I came to an agreement with the salesman of a Mitsubishi dealership here. Part of that agreement was that I would trade in my six year old Everest for 480 thousand. I was surprised, because I hoped for 450 (perfect condition and only 125.000 on the clock). His superior still had to approve it. Next morning I was told that they had expected the Everest to be equipped with a commonrail engine which it wasn't so the offer went down to 400 thousand. These 80 thousand Baht less value at the end of the ride reflect very well the discount I got six years ago for buying the old model while the new one, with the commonrail engine, was waiting already around the corner. So this time I expect the 30 thousand higher price to be stored away more safely in the car than in an average bank. Looking at what the buyer gets for these 30 thousand it might be very well possible that the price gap between new and old model will be widened in December untill the old model is sold out. A little bit like what happened when I bought the Ford six years ago. After that Mrs. MoonRiverOasis can harvest 555! She made a good investment, that's for sure! It is good to see that the ergonomical minus in the location of the tiptronic will be compensated by the paddles, at least now also in the GT 2wd version. I might seldom use them, but it's the idea 555! Limbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 16, 2011 Author Share Posted October 16, 2011 Well worth the thirty thousand Baht extra I suppose. Extra 30K? I love it! One more price increase and I'll be able to sell the Mrs' PJS for what I paid for it A couple of weeks ago I came to an agreement with the salesman of a Mitsubishi dealership here. Part of that agreement was that I would trade in my six year old Everest for 480 thousand. I was surprised, because I hoped for 450 (perfect condition and only 125.000 on the clock). His superior still had to approve it. Next morning I was told that they had expected the Everest to be equipped with a commonrail engine which it wasn't so the offer went down to 400 thousand. These 80 thousand Baht less value at the end of the ride reflect very well the discount I got six years ago for buying the old model while the new one, with the commonrail engine, was waiting already around the corner. So this time I expect the 30 thousand higher price to be stored away more safely in the car than in an average bank. Looking at what the buyer gets for these 30 thousand it might be very well possible that the price gap between new and old model will be widened in December untill the old model is sold out. A little bit like what happened when I bought the Ford six years ago. After that Mrs. MoonRiverOasis can harvest 555! She made a good investment, that's for sure! It is good to see that the ergonomical minus in the location of the tiptronic will be compensated by the paddles, at least now also in the GT 2wd version. I might seldom use them, but it's the idea 555! Limbo The sticker price on the leftover my11's won't change - discounting outgoing models is something that only ever happens on a full shape change.. In any case a white pearl 2WD GT is now going to cost 1,185,000 - 135,000 more than what the wife's cost just 18 months ago- so usef value will probably hit 1M in 2012 which means about 2,000 Baht/mth to own by the time we trade it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) The sticker price on the leftover my11's won't change - discounting outgoing models is something that only ever happens on a full shape change.. In any case a white pearl 2WD GT is now going to cost 1,185,000 - 135,000 more than what the wife's cost just 18 months ago- so usef value will probably hit 1M in 2012 which means about 2,000 Baht/mth to own by the time we trade it This might be the moment to honor Mrs. MoonRiverOasis with a justified advance of at least 10.000 Baht. Asit happens your miscalculation enables you actually to do so in a budget neutral way, as the version of the car she uses now will cost 1,195,000 Baht next year! Limbo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Edited October 16, 2011 by Limbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 16, 2011 Author Share Posted October 16, 2011 The sticker price on the leftover my11's won't change - discounting outgoing models is something that only ever happens on a full shape change.. In any case a white pearl 2WD GT is now going to cost 1,185,000 - 135,000 more than what the wife's cost just 18 months ago- so usef value will probably hit 1M in 2012 which means about 2,000 Baht/mth to own by the time we trade it This might be the moment to honor Mrs. MoonRiverOasis with a justified advance of at least 10.000 Baht. Asit happens your miscalculation enables you actually to do so in a budget neutral way, as the version of the car she uses now will cost 1,195,000 Baht next year! Limbo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lol @ giving the wife money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) The sticker price on the leftover my11's won't change - discounting outgoing models is something that only ever happens on a full shape change.. In any case a white pearl 2WD GT is now going to cost 1,185,000 - 135,000 more than what the wife's cost just 18 months ago- so usef value will probably hit 1M in 2012 which means about 2,000 Baht/mth to own by the time we trade it This might be the moment to honor Mrs. MoonRiverOasis with a justified advance of at least 10.000 Baht. Asit happens your miscalculation enables you actually to do so in a budget neutral way, as the version of the car she uses now will cost 1,195,000 Baht next year! Limbo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lol @ giving the wife money This is what my wife says: แต่ฉันไม่อยากเห็นสามีของฉันขับรถอาเสี่ย. Very raw translated: it's a car for men with small ... that can afford something along the side 555! Who can deny that she is right? It seems here to be the kind of 'nouveau riche' vehicle that Mercedes Benz nowadays is in Europe. A Benz might impress in Thailand, but in Europe it is 'taxi!' The status you buy with this vehicle is not really 'style', so you have purely to go for the quality of it, which won't be the problem for most of us 555! The good thing is that most foreigners (including myself) are not so sensitive on this point ... But I still think that the Escape is an option (and much more of a statement than the Japanese thing we are talking about). Please share your opinion on this! Limbo Edited October 16, 2011 by Limbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gers1873 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The sticker price on the leftover my11's won't change - discounting outgoing models is something that only ever happens on a full shape change.. In any case a white pearl 2WD GT is now going to cost 1,185,000 - 135,000 more than what the wife's cost just 18 months ago- so usef value will probably hit 1M in 2012 which means about 2,000 Baht/mth to own by the time we trade it This might be the moment to honor Mrs. MoonRiverOasis with a justified advance of at least 10.000 Baht. Asit happens your miscalculation enables you actually to do so in a budget neutral way, as the version of the car she uses now will cost 1,195,000 Baht next year! Limbo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Lol @ giving the wife money This is what my wife says: แต่ฉันไม่อยากเห็นสามีของฉันขับรถอาเสี่ย. Very raw translated: it's a car for men with small ... that can afford something along the side 555! Who can deny that she is right? It seems here to be the kind of 'nouveau riche' vehicle that Mercedes Benz nowadays is in Europe. A Benz might impress in Thailand, but in Europe it is 'taxi!' The status you buy with this vehicle is not really 'style', so you have purely to go for the quality of it, which won't be the problem for most of us 555! The good thing is that most foreigners (including myself) are not so sensitive on this point ... But I still think that the Escape is an option (and much more of a statement than the Japanese thing we are talking about). Please share your opinion on this! Limbo Escape?? My two biggest concerns would be transmission and air-con. There's has been at least one recall (#10B15) due to transmission issues. Plus lots of complaints that can be researched online. With the oppressive heat in Thailand I would worry about air-con --- not something Ford are well known for. /having spent time in much warmer climates than Thailand I can verify American vehicles generally come second to the Japanese for air-con quality and reliability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Escape from the Cart Sprung Truck, and Fuel Gobbling, its worse than a Mu 7, apart from it looks better, well spotted Gers, i rented one. Crap Thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 ...quote taken out of content..."A Benz might impress in Thailand, but in Europe it is 'taxi!' "...they use it as a taxi,because it is the most reliable and comfortable vehicle the money can buy...and lasts...and lasts ...and the comfort never stops,just add a few $.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 Here's the official launch piece for the "Infinite Luxury" minor change.. Adding the roof vents, mirror covers and side protection moldings is a smart way to hide the real source of the cost increase, which is the Euro4 particulate filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Not something else to remove to get the power back i hope. There must be millions of Catalytic Power suckers piled up some where. I like the interior in white.Given me food for thought, you are not forced into that bloody ridiculous Toyota 4W.D. System, so needed to get into Big C. , and its not too big, a bit Honda CRV ish.Its not made from left over bits, like the Chevy thing. A wheel kicking is called for i Tink... A misread as a Euro4 Perculator, now that would be usefull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) Confusing! Quite different at least concerning the 2wd GT: No 17 inch wheels, no 5 gear box auto, paddle shift maybe. Some other minor changes not mentioned even. Got a phone call this morning that I can have a look at the GT 2wd in blue and the manual gasoline version in black. Those options don't appear in your brochure either. Warranty reduced from 5 to 3 year ... Is it only a part of the brochure? Greetings, Limbo Edited October 19, 2011 by Limbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Confusing! Quite different at least concerning the 2wd GT: No 17 inch wheels, no 5 gear box auto, paddle shift maybe. Some other minor changes not mentioned even. Got a phone call this morning that I can have a look at the GT 2wd in blue and the manual gasoline version in black. Those options don't appear in your brochure either. Warranty reduced from 5 to 3 year ... Is it only a part of the brochure? Greetings, Limbo You need to read the "<" symbol as being จาก (from) or เมื่อก่อน (previously/before), so what it's actually saying is the GT grade: has 17" wheels, previously 16" has 245/65R17 tires, previously 265/70R16 has 5A/T, previously 4A/T.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) Warranty reduced from 5 to 3 year ... Had to check on this one, but yes, only the standard 3yr/100K warranty is now included. The 5yr warranty was first introduced in March 2010 as a special promotion, and became standard in November 2010. It appears they're now backtracking to the 3yr warranty - no doubt to leave them room for another special promotion The 5yr/150K "Diamond Warranty" appears to be still available as a cost-option though - so maybe possible to try and get it included into the deal.. Edited October 19, 2011 by MoonRiverOasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Confusing! Quite different at least concerning the 2wd GT: No 17 inch wheels, no 5 gear box auto, paddle shift maybe. Some other minor changes not mentioned even. Got a phone call this morning that I can have a look at the GT 2wd in blue and the manual gasoline version in black. Those options don't appear in your brochure either. Warranty reduced from 5 to 3 year ... Is it only a part of the brochure? Greetings, Limbo You need to read the "<" symbol as being จาก (from) or เมื่อก่อน (previously/before), so what it's actually saying is the GT grade: has 17" wheels, previously 16" has 245/65R17 tires, previously 265/70R16 has 5A/T, previously 4A/T.... Are there any advantages to have 17" instead of 16" on a PJS 2WD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 You need to read the "<" symbol as being จาก (from) or เมื่อก่อน (previously/before), so what it's actually saying is the GT grade: has 17" wheels, previously 16" has 245/65R17 tires, previously 265/70R16 has 5A/T, previously 4A/T.... Not that it is so important, but you might have another brochure in front of your nose then the ones that are visible here on the forum. The "<" symbol might be on another brochure. Interesting interpretation though ..., but I must admit that 17 is more than 16 and that the size of the rims without any doubt will have some impact on the characteristics of the tyres. Please enlighten us. Your info comes from Mitsubishi Thailands web site and the page I shared here comes from a dealer and is more specific. To a certain degree they seem 'to bite' each other in the sense that the website version shows some emissions. Anyhow, the blue version looks good (darker than for instance the navy blue of the Honda Civic and there is indeed now a version with a manual gear shift and a gasoline 2,4 liter engine. And this information doesn't come from a brochure, but from physical encounters 555! If they agree to put the extra warranty among the 'freebees' I shall let you know. Limbo Dear MJCM, I only could speculate about the differences or the percieved difference between the two. It's a little bit like Kingtex versus Comfort, not everybody will have the same preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Are there any advantages to have 17" instead of 16" on a PJS 2WD? As you go up in rim diameter, tire sidewall height decreases - which genrally translates into sharper turn in, improved steering feel, less sidewall flex (so less roll and "wallowing"), but also means a stiffer tire, so less compliant over the bumps. However, all of that also depends on the quality of the tires used. In the case of OEM tires, the differences between 16" and 17" is very marginal. 18"-20" is what's needed to make noticeable differences on the PJS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 They all could do with bigger wheels in my eyes, the rims are to small,and the tyres to big.18 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 They all could do with bigger wheels in my eyes, the rims are to small,and the tyres to big.18 min. You are right...but that will probably put all the custom wheels shops out of business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Not that it is so important, but you might have another brochure in front of your nose then the ones that are visible here on the forum. The "<" symbol might be on another brochure. Interesting interpretation though ..., but I must admit that 17 is more than 16 and that the size of the rims without any doubt will have some impact on the characteristics of the tyres. Please enlighten us I'm referring to the image you posted. You can't see the left arrows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 If you fit the biggest rims,and doughnuts it handles better but harsh ens the ride significantly. Unfortunately a Brochure is hard to understand without a basic knowledge of what the door handles for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 If you fit the biggest rims,and doughnuts it handles better but harsh ens the ride significantly. True if same quality of tires are fitted - but given how ordinary the OEM tires used in Thailand are, you can generally move up 2" on rim size for pickups/SUV's a lose practically nothing on ride quality so long as you're fitting a decent tire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 A Trucks Ride Quality is so bad you wouldnt notice anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h11g Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 after much thought decided to go for pjs white 4wd. I guess the 4wd is better when i drive outstation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 You guessed wrong. If folks are honest, like me !!!, they hardly ever use them, its just a Fashon Statement. Plus it ruins the PJS for reasons stated by other posters who own them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h11g Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 omg really? but the 2wd doesn't have the 5 speed gearbox. Anyways from my personal experience of driving a vigo when raining, it feels much better in 4wd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 A Vigo is a Truck, not a Gentleman's Conveyance. Every little helps with those things. MRO s the Mitsu Man and happy with his . I get lost with this Rain Thing, Seems the same Wet or Dry less i drive like a 30Y.O. Prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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