Detained Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn Seeks Permission To Register For Election Candidacy

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Detained Red Shirt leader seeks permission to register for election candidacy

BANGKOK, May 13 - Detained Red shirt key leader Jatuporn Prompan said he will seek permission to leave prison to register as a party-list MP candidate next week and wants to appear in his inmate's uniform, the prison commandant said on Friday.

Bangkok Remand Prison commander Sophon Thitithammarak disclosed the information as he talked with Mr Jatuporn who is now being detained there after the court revoked his bail on Thursday.

The former Puea Thai MP could not sleep well last night, as observed by the prison officers, but this is normal for the first night in jail of any detainee, Mr Sophon said.

The prison chief revealed that Mr Jatuporn has asked him for temporary release from prison on May 19 so that he can apply as a party-list MP candidate and said that he would like to wear a prisoner's uniform on that day.

"I informed him that permission to leave prison can be granted only when the court gives such an order. Mr Jatuporn should ask his lawyer to make his request to the court on May 18, Mr Sophon said.

However the prison will not allow him to wear an inmate's uniform and he will not be chained as registering to run in an election is considered an honorable activity.

Mr Sophon said it also depends on election regulations as to whether party-list MP candidates are obliged to appear to register in person or not. If the rule is flexible, the protest leader can sign the application form in the prison.

The commander said the director-general of the Corrections Department has instructed him to step up security at the prison, particularly for the safety of Mr Jatuporn, who is a key figure of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD).

Regarding concerns over the possible escalated situation at the planned Red Shirt rally May 19 after their two leaders were sent to jail, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said Friday that he believes no disorder will take place on that day, which is the first day of the party-list MP candidacy registration.

The premier however urged the UDD protesters to exercise their rights under the rule of law.

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban, who oversees national security, said he also believes the bail withdrawal of Mr Jatuporn will not lead to violence on May 19 when the Red Shirt supporters commemorate the end of deadly clashes between the group and the troops last year.

Two Red Shirt leaders, Mr Jatuporn and Nisit Sinthuprai were sent to Bangkok Remand Prison immediately after the court revoked their bail Thursday morning.

The court also dismissed the bail requests of the pair requested in the afternoon, citing concerns that the two men might cause disorder after their temporary release.

Mr Jatuporn and Mr Nisit's bail were withdrawn after the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) submitted the request to the court, saying the two, charged of terrorism, had breached the bail conditions and insulted the country's revered monarchy which can cause confusion and public disorder as they delivered inappropriate speeches on the Red Shirt rally stage April 10. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2011-05-13

[animatic]

Leave prison register and make a speech that will break bail requirements, but incite his red troops. I doubt he would care about breaking bail requirements and just say what he wants. AKA more nails in the same ole coffin.

Maybe he should have thought about registering and such BEFORE making the speeches, knowing the potential consequences. Or maybe he though he was, permanently immune indefinitely?

Edited May 13, 2011 by animatic

[jdinasia]

Here's hoping that the court denies the request .......!

[hanuman1]

Here's hoping the court implements the law effectively!

[jimbeam1]

It never fails to amuse me. The Prison will not allow him to wear an inmates uniform and he will not be chained as registering to run in an election is considered an honorable activity.

He is I do believe waiting to stand trial pending criminal activities?

jb1

[jdinasia]

Here's hoping the court implements the law effectively!

In my humble opinion if they did that there would be no bail for terrorism charges (anywhere!), LM, or ever if a defendant has breached bail conditions in the past (anywhere!)

Edited May 13, 2011 by jdinasia

[councilor]

Leave prison register and make a speech that will break bail requirements, but incite his red troops. I doubt he would care about breaking bail requirements and just say what he wants. AKA more nails in the same ole coffin.

Maybe he should have thought about registering and such BEFORE making the speeches, knowing the potential consequences. Or maybe he though he was, permanently immune indefinitely?

completely bias post as usual

[councilor]

Here's hoping that the court denies the request .......!

Scared are you

[landofthefree]

Here's hoping that the court denies the request .......!

Scared are you

Putting him in Jail will only help Pheu Thai as he has now become a martyr for the red shirt/ Pheu Thai cause. For those posters that are happy with this situation I hope you will still be as happy when Pheu Thai forms the next Government with the prospect of a return of Thaksin and obviously Jatuporn to politics. Sometimes it is better to lose a battle and subsequently win a war. Looks like a huge amart own goal to me.

Edited May 13, 2011 by landofthefree

[hyperdimension]

Putting him in Jail will only help Pheu Thai as he has now become a martyr for the red shirt/ Pheu Thai cause./

So Jatuporn should stop trying to get bailed out. As long he stays in there Pheu Thai has an advantage. The protesters should also not call for his release, otherwise the advantange will be lost.

Thaksin should be in jail too so that he can be a martyr, but instead he ran away.

For those posters that are happy with this situation

Aren't you happy that Jatuporn is in jail? You just said that it gives Pheu Thai, whom you support, an advantage.

Edited May 13, 2011 by hyperdimension

[LikeHeat]

I wonder how many other inmates would also like to leave jail for some event they consider "important"?

[jdinasia]

Here's hoping that the court denies the request .......!

Scared are you

Putting him in Jail will only help Pheu Thai as he has now become a martyr for the red shirt/ Pheu Thai cause. For those posters that are happy with this situation I hope you will still be as happy when Pheu Thai forms the next Government with the prospect of a return of Thaksin and obviously Jatuporn to politics. Sometimes it is better to lose a battle and subsequently win a war. Looks like a huge amart own goal to me.

If convicted of the terrorisim and other charges against him, Jatuporn may get to wear the mantle of "martyr" .... right now he's simply a thug in jail for violating his terms of bail.

[Buchholz]

He should be attired exactly the same as his fellow Red Shirt Savage was at the same Bangkok Remand Prison.... otherwise, it's "double standards"

He'll need to sit up, however, to sign the Pheu Thai Party-list MP registration forms.

.

Edited May 13, 2011 by Buchholz

[animatic]

Leave prison register and make a speech that will break bail requirements, but incite his red troops. I doubt he would care about breaking bail requirements and just say what he wants. AKA more nails in the same ole coffin.

Maybe he should have thought about registering and such BEFORE making the speeches, knowing the potential consequences. Or maybe he though he was, permanently immune indefinitely?

completely bias post as usual

Bias assumes that I have any leaning towards this prat at all.

Don't fool yourself there is NONE.

Not sure why you imagine saying "bias" actually will mean anything or belittle my comments. Flase hopes me thinks.

And that should read; 'completely biased post...'

Not to mention that you come in just a month ago and are suddenly an expert on my posts, "as usual". Small credibility factor missing here, having missed around 10,900 of them.

You of course have every right to criticism of my post, but try content next time and not simply implying angle.

Here for the election and gone in July maybe?

Edited May 13, 2011 by animatic

[animatic]

Here's hoping that the court denies the request .......!

Scared are you

I don't think trying to sound like Yoda from 'The Empire Strikes Back 'will actually win debating points here.....

[animatic]

Here's hoping that the court denies the request .......!

Scared are you

Putting him in Jail will only help Pheu Thai as he has now become a martyr for the red shirt/ Pheu Thai cause. For those posters that are happy with this situation I hope you will still be as happy when Pheu Thai forms the next Government with the prospect of a return of Thaksin and obviously Jatuporn to politics. Sometimes it is better to lose a battle and subsequently win a war. Looks like a huge amart own goal to me.

If convicted of the terrorisim and other charges against him, Jatuporn may get to wear the mantle of "martyr" .... right now he's simply a thug in jail for violating his terms of bail.

martyr –noun

1.a person who willingly suffers death rather than renouncehis or her religion. 2.a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause: a martyr to the cause of social justice. 3.a person who undergoes severe or constant suffering: amartyr to severe headaches.

Ah yes, great suffering in a jail he walked into in a suit and tie, and might let him go do 'honorable things' and not in shackles.

It is at present a cake walk, but it silences him and that's the great sacrifice he makes, not getting to bla bla bla the masses at this critical time of his financial history. How can he garner the big payday when locked silently in stir.... oh the suffering of his Thaksin filled bank balance!!!

When he gets up to the level of the individuals below,

then I can say he's suffered greatly for the cause.

• Saint Anastasia
• Saint Apostolos of St. Laurence
• Saint Artermius
• Saint Barbara
• Prince Bidzin, Prince Elizbar, and Prince Shalva of Georgia
• Saint Catherine of Alexandria
• Saint Christina
• Saint Demetrius
• Saint Euphemia
• Saint George
• Saint George the New at Sophia (1515)
• Saint Haralambos
• Saint Irene
• John the New of Suceava
• Ketevan, Queen of Georgia
• Saint Lazar of Serbia
• Saint Marina
• Saint Mercurius
• Saint Michael-Gobron of Georgia
• Saint Panteleimon
• Saint Paraskeva
• Saint Phanourios
• Saint Procopius
• Saint Sabbas the Goth
• Theodore Gavra of Atran in Chaldea
• Saint Theodore Stratelates
• Saint Theodore Tyro
• Saint Tryphon
• Xenia of Peloponnesus

Edited May 13, 2011 by animatic

[landofthefree]

Aren't you happy that Jatuporn is in jail? You just said that it gives Pheu Thai, whom you support, an advantage.

Where in my post did I say I support Pheu Thai? I am British and cannot vote in Thailand so why would I want to support a political party here? I just find third world politics fascinating to watch and comment on as it is so different to the politics that I know from the first world.

[phiphidon]

martyr –noun

1.a person who willingly suffers death rather than renouncehis or her religion. 2.a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause: a martyr to the cause of social justice. 3.a person who undergoes severe or constant suffering: amartyr to severe headaches.

Ah yes, great suffering in a jail he walked into in a suit and tie, and might let him go do 'honorable things' and not in shackles.

It is at present a cake walk, but it silences him and that's the great sacrifice he makes, not getting to bla bla bla the masses at this critical time of his financial history. How can he garner the big payday when locked silently in stir.... oh the suffering of his Thaksin filled bank balance!!!

When he gets up to the level of the individuals below,

then I can say he's suffered greatly for the cause.

• Saint Anastasia
• Saint Apostolos of St. Laurence
• Saint Artermius
• Saint Barbara
• Prince Bidzin, Prince Elizbar, and Prince Shalva of Georgia
• Saint Catherine of Alexandria
• Saint Christina
• Saint Demetrius
• Saint Euphemia
• Saint George
• Saint George the New at Sophia (1515)
• Saint Haralambos
• Saint Irene
• John the New of Suceava
• Ketevan, Queen of Georgia
• Saint Lazar of Serbia
• Saint Marina
• Saint Mercurius
• Saint Michael-Gobron of Georgia
• Saint Panteleimon
• Saint Paraskeva
• Saint Phanourios
• Saint Procopius
• Saint Sabbas the Goth
• Theodore Gavra of Atran in Chaldea
• Saint Theodore Stratelates
• Saint Theodore Tyro
• Saint Tryphon
• Xenia of Peloponnesus

Fine , if you believe in Christian matyrs and how great they are, there's probably a few who aren't christian in there but I really couldn't be bothered to wade through all the wiki references. Is there a martyred saint of ostentatiousness?

[teko]

In reality what does it matter.

Crims on the inside, the outside and abroad.

Thai politics is so humorous and the highlight of my read for the day.

If one party wins the other is on the streets and vice versa.

"never ending story lahlahlah"

[hanuman1]

Here's hoping the court implements the law effectively!

In my humble opinion if they did that there would be no bail for terrorism charges (anywhere!), LM, or ever if a defendant has breached bail conditions in the past (anywhere!)

If your humble opinion were shared by the judges involved, then of course your assertion that 'implementing the law effectively' would be the same as saying 'denying them bail'.

Without that judicial endorsement, however, it remains your humble opinion.

I just think 'Here's hoping the court implements the law effectively!' sounds a bit more neutral than 'Here's hoping that the court denies the request .......!'.

Now I know you wouldn't describe yourself as neutral in these discussions, but I'm just wondering when you and others are gonna quit considering neutrals as being Thaksin/red shirt sympathizers simply because they question your particularly partizan viewpoint.

Edited May 13, 2011 by hanuman1

[hyperdimension]

Where in my post did I say I support Pheu Thai?

Your post as well as your past posting history indicates that you have some bias in favor of Pheu Thai and a negative view of the current government. Who would you like to see govern Thailand?

[jdinasia]

Here's hoping the court implements the law effectively!

In my humble opinion if they did that there would be no bail for terrorism charges (anywhere!), LM, or ever if a defendant has breached bail conditions in the past (anywhere!)

If your humble opinion were shared by the judges involved, then of course your assertion that 'implementing the law effectively' would be the same as saying 'denying them bail'.

Without that judicial endorsement, however, it remains your humble opinion.

I just think 'Here's hoping the court implements the law effectively!' sounds a bit more neutral than 'Here's hoping that the court denies the request .......!'.

Now I know you wouldn't describe yourself as neutral in these discussions, but I'm just wondering when you and others are gonna quit considering neutrals as being Thaksin/red shirt sympathizers simply because they question your particularly partizan viewpoint.

I don't think I am responsible for other posters ,,, so "and others" is your issue not mine. I also tend to look at the totality of a person's post before I make assumptions about where their sympathies lie.

I noted my opinion as an opinion ... so the rest of your statement is .... well ....... not particularly relevant, now is it?

Your history of responding to posts made (that for whatever reason you dislike) with a one word response ..... shows me enough bias to not think of you as "neutral"

[lungmi]

martyr –noun

1.a person who willingly suffers death rather than renouncehis or her religion. 2.a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause: a martyr to the cause of social justice. 3.a person who undergoes severe or constant suffering: amartyr to severe headaches.

Ah yes, great suffering in a jail he walked into in a suit and tie, and might let him go do 'honorable things' and not in shackles.

It is at present a cake walk, but it silences him and that's the great sacrifice he makes, not getting to bla bla bla the masses at this critical time of his financial history. How can he garner the big payday when locked silently in stir.... oh the suffering of his Thaksin filled bank balance!!!

When he gets up to the level of the individuals below,

then I can say he's suffered greatly for the cause.

• Saint Anastasia
• Saint Apostolos of St. Laurence
• Saint Artermius
• Saint Barbara
• Prince Bidzin, Prince Elizbar, and Prince Shalva of Georgia
• Saint Catherine of Alexandria
• Saint Christina
• Saint Demetrius
• Saint Euphemia
• Saint George
• Saint George the New at Sophia (1515)
• Saint Haralambos
• Saint Irene
• John the New of Suceava
• Ketevan, Queen of Georgia
• Saint Lazar of Serbia
• Saint Marina
• Saint Mercurius
• Saint Michael-Gobron of Georgia
• Saint Panteleimon
• Saint Paraskeva
• Saint Phanourios
• Saint Procopius
• Saint Sabbas the Goth
• Theodore Gavra of Atran in Chaldea
• Saint Theodore Stratelates
• Saint Theodore Tyro
• Saint Tryphon
• Xenia of Peloponnesus

Fine , if you believe in Christian matyrs and how great they are, there's probably a few who aren't christian in there but I really couldn't be bothered to wade through all the wiki references. Is there a martyred saint of ostentatiousness?

Taliban and Bin Laden death now in Pakistan. Think about.

[landofthefree]

Where in my post did I say I support Pheu Thai?

Your post as well as your past posting history indicates that you have some bias in favor of Pheu Thai and a negative view of the current government. Who would you like to see govern Thailand?

Couldnt give a rats arse .Its not my country, I cant vote in it so why would I care?

[jdinasia]

Where in my post did I say I support Pheu Thai?

Your post as well as your past posting history indicates that you have some bias in favor of Pheu Thai and a negative view of the current government. Who would you like to see govern Thailand?

Couldnt give a rats arse .Its not my country, I cant vote in it so why would I care?

I find this reply to simply be obfuscation ....... if in fact you couldn't give a rats arse with the conclusion that you can't vote, so why would you care .... it begs the question ... if you don't care why do you post about politics ... and particularly why post with what appears to me to be a distinctly biased way (nothing wrong with bias --- I am clearly anti-Thaksin and simply don't hide it or lie about it!)

Out of your 457 posts --- 427 are in the Thailand news section and it appears the vast majority of those are in threads about politics

Edited May 13, 2011 by jdinasia

[hyperdimension]

Where in my post did I say I support Pheu Thai?

Your post as well as your past posting history indicates that you have some bias in favor of Pheu Thai and a negative view of the current government. Who would you like to see govern Thailand?

Couldnt give a rats arse .Its not my country, I cant vote in it so why would I care?

Because you live here (I assume). Whoever is in charge of the country in which you live can affect your life as well as the lives of any family and friends that you might have.

[Thaddeus]

Where in my post did I say I support Pheu Thai?

Your post as well as your past posting history indicates that you have some bias in favor of Pheu Thai and a negative view of the current government. Who would you like to see govern Thailand?

Couldnt give a rats arse .Its not my country, I cant vote in it so why would I care?

I find this reply to simply be obfuscation ....... if in fact you couldn't give a rats arse with the conclusion that you can't vote, so why would you care .... it begs the question ... if you don't care why do you post about politics ... and particularly why post with what appears to me to be a distinctly biased way (nothing wrong with bias --- I am clearly anti-Thaksin and simply don't hide it or lie about it!)

Out of your 457 posts --- 427 are in the Thailand news section and it appears the vast majority of those are in threads about politics

Jd, you are make the fundamental mistake of confusing the issue with facts, they seriously don't like that.

[hanuman1]

Here's hoping the court implements the law effectively!

In my humble opinion if they did that there would be no bail for terrorism charges (anywhere!), LM, or ever if a defendant has breached bail conditions in the past (anywhere!)

If your humble opinion were shared by the judges involved, then of course your assertion that 'implementing the law effectively' would be the same as saying 'denying them bail'.

Without that judicial endorsement, however, it remains your humble opinion.

I just think 'Here's hoping the court implements the law effectively!' sounds a bit more neutral than 'Here's hoping that the court denies the request .......!'.

Now I know you wouldn't describe yourself as neutral in these discussions, but I'm just wondering when you and others are gonna quit considering neutrals as being Thaksin/red shirt sympathizers simply because they question your particularly partizan viewpoint.

I don't think I am responsible for other posters ,,, so "and others" is your issue not mine. I also tend to look at the totality of a person's post before I make assumptions about where their sympathies lie.

I noted my opinion as an opinion ... so the rest of your statement is .... well ....... not particularly relevant, now is it?

Your history of responding to posts made (that for whatever reason you dislike) with a one word response ..... shows me enough bias to not think of you as "neutral"

Predictable.

[animatic]

martyr –noun

1.a person who willingly suffers death rather than renouncehis or her religion. 2.a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause: a martyr to the cause of social justice. 3.a person who undergoes severe or constant suffering: amartyr to severe headaches.

Ah yes, great suffering in a jail he walked into in a suit and tie, and might let him go do 'honorable things' and not in shackles.

It is at present a cake walk, but it silences him and that's the great sacrifice he makes, not getting to bla bla bla the masses at this critical time of his financial history. How can he garner the big payday when locked silently in stir.... oh the suffering of his Thaksin filled bank balance!!!

When he gets up to the level of the individuals below,

then I can say he's suffered greatly for the cause.

• Saint Anastasia
• Saint Apostolos of St. Laurence
• Saint Artermius
• Saint Barbara
• Prince Bidzin, Prince Elizbar, and Prince Shalva of Georgia
• Saint Catherine of Alexandria
• Saint Christina
• Saint Demetrius
• Saint Euphemia
• Saint George
• Saint George the New at Sophia (1515)
• Saint Haralambos
• Saint Irene
• John the New of Suceava
• Ketevan, Queen of Georgia
• Saint Lazar of Serbia
• Saint Marina
• Saint Mercurius
• Saint Michael-Gobron of Georgia
• Saint Panteleimon
• Saint Paraskeva
• Saint Phanourios
• Saint Procopius
• Saint Sabbas the Goth
• Theodore Gavra of Atran in Chaldea
• Saint Theodore Stratelates
• Saint Theodore Tyro
• Saint Tryphon
• Xenia of Peloponnesus

Fine , if you believe in Christian matyrs and how great they are, there's probably a few who aren't christian in there but I really couldn't be bothered to wade through all the wiki references. Is there a martyred saint of ostentatiousness?

It'st about ostentation, but about suffering for a cause.

Or couldn't you understand the context?

When it comes to claiming suffering, Jatuporn is a piker.

[landofthefree]

Out of your 457 posts --- 427 are in the Thailand news section and it appears the vast majority of those are in threads about politics

Yes as a commentator, because Thailand's version of politics is so entertaining, but I cant influence who is in power so why would I lose sleep over who will form the next Government?If history is anything to go by they wont be in power for long anyway!