eladblum Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Thinking of replacing my car (Honda Jazz 2008) with the Altis CNG 1. Does TOYOTA adjust the suspensions and brakes for the extra weight? I read that the CNG model is 100kg heavier than the others. 2. What's the max load on this car? I make long trips every other month (1000 km) with wife & kids. 3. How long does is take to fill up the tank (12kg)? and what's the km range? Any other disadvantages I didn't think about? 4. I know that HONDA lunched a CIVIC CNG but not in thailand. Someone knows if they're thinking about it? and another thing. The manual CNG model comes with cassette radio system ?!?!? Do they still make cassettes these days?? Thanks Edited September 23, 2011 by eladblum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Toyota has put a lot of work into their CNG Altis. Engine is the old 1,6 modified for CNG with harder valves/seats, different pistons and a bunch of other parts. Suspension is upgraded for the higher weight, and it still loads approx 500Kg. Dont know about brakes , but assuming they are same as 2,0 weighing the same Manual is for taxi, so cheapest radio Denso can supply I guess . Fillup time depends on supply pressure, worst thing is still the ques before you reach a pump other disadvantages? less power than petrol 1,6. half the trunk gone. CNG/NGV hard to find in parts of the country, and still not available on Andaman side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) You can find out by going out and taking a taxi anywhere. Most of them are the 1.6CNG. Ask the driver how he likes it. Edited September 23, 2011 by thaicruze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eladblum Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 You can find out by going out and taking a taxi anywhere. Most of them are the 1.6CNG. Ask the driver how he likes it. Won't work for me. I live in Phitsanulok and I'm going to Isan area every other month. 2 big mountains on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I would wait for the new Chevy AVEO CNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eladblum Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 I would wait for the new Chevy AVEO CNG. Looks nice, but surely won't hold its value like the TOYOTA after 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I would wait for the new Chevy AVEO CNG. My future son inlaw has a new current model Chevy Aveo CNG, says it's crap, when he can he is getting rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I would wait for the new Chevy AVEO CNG. My future son inlaw has a new current model Chevy Aveo CNG, says it's crap, when he can he is getting rid of it. There's a poster here who has one and loves it. Forgot his name. Matter of opinion I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I would wait for the new Chevy AVEO CNG. Looks nice, but surely won't hold its value like the TOYOTA after 5 years. All cars here pretty much hold their value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eladblum Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 I would wait for the new Chevy AVEO CNG. Looks nice, but surely won't hold its value like the TOYOTA after 5 years. All cars here pretty much hold their value. Guess so, but isn't TOYOTA easier to sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I would wait for the new Chevy AVEO CNG. My future son inlaw has a new current model Chevy Aveo CNG, says it's crap, when he can he is getting rid of it. There's a poster here who has one and loves it. Forgot his name. Matter of opinion I guess. Depends what he drove before eh !. My FSIL previously had a Civic and is now very disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurespeter Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 eladblum wrote: ...3. How long does is take to fill up the tank (12kg)? and what's the km range? Any other disadvantages I didn't think about?... About 4 ... 6 minutes. Stations in/ around Bangkok are often overfilled, mostly taxis (Altis CNG ) are waiting and often it will take between 30 minutes or more. Outside Bangkok no problem, except travelling southwards because missing CNG-stations. Km range (CNG) is about 160 ... 180km for paying +/ -100 THB, plus little gasoline (E20, or gasohol 95) because machine starts first short time on gasoline. Running costs are about 0,65 ... 0,70THB/ 1km, enjoyable. Alternative for example Mitsubishi Lancer CNG or if you need extreme load for your family Mitsu Triton CNG. Toyota dealers knows that Altis CNG is a good car and buyers don't get as much extra cookies as Mitsubishi offer. Delivery time for Altis CNG is about 2/ 3 month,for Lancer CNG about 1/ 2 weeks. http://www.carsanook...e_by_toyota.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 eladblum wrote: ...3. How long does is take to fill up the tank (12kg)? and what's the km range? Any other disadvantages I didn't think about?... About 4 ... 6 minutes. Stations in/ around Bangkok are often overfilled, mostly taxis (Altis CNG ) are waiting and often it will take between 30 minutes or more. Outside Bangkok no problem, except travelling southwards because missing CNG-stations. Km range (CNG) is about 160 ... 180km for paying +/ -100 THB, plus little gasoline (E20, or gasohol 95) because machine starts first short time on gasoline. Running costs are about 0,65 ... 0,70THB/ 1km, enjoyable. Alternative for example Mitsubishi Lancer CNG or if you need extreme load for your family Mitsu Triton CNG. Toyota dealers knows that Altis CNG is a good car and buyers don't get as much extra cookies as Mitsubishi offer. Delivery time for Altis CNG is about 2/ 3 month,for Lancer CNG about 1/ 2 weeks. http://www.carsanook...e_by_toyota.htm south of Hua Hin waiting to get CNG is often hours, sometimes 4-5 hours. Whenever I see a highway CNG station, there is always a que Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Why do they open the Hoods when filling. In the U.K. i never noticed them do that.The Ques are a farce, no pressure i supose . Ive watched them take 15 Mins to fill a Mitsu cng. Not for me at any price. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) ^ I think those that get filled up that way, their installation CNG/NGV is fitted afterwards so not factory installed And factory installed they fill up like this http://www.designmatrix.com/pl/ecopl/images/200px-FillingUpCNG.jpg Edited September 24, 2011 by MJCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Same as the Cooking Bottles..Its no joke if your a newbie, i cant recall seeing ques that long since Rationing. I would be worried about explosions if Old Nop fitted it. ,i drank my Coke as far away as poss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Same as the Cooking Bottles..Its no joke if your a newbie, i cant recall seeing ques that long since Rationing. I would be worried about explosions if Old Nop fitted it. ,i drank my Coke as far away as poss. Nope, as hard as l try l cannot understand your posts. God knows how the English second language get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Its is my second language, Im a Jordie Bonnie Lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Why do they open the Hoods when filling. In the U.K. i never noticed them do that.The Ques are a farce, no pressure i supose . Ive watched them take 15 Mins to fill a Mitsu cng. Not for me at any price. . Sorry, it's hard to understand what you say, but did you just say you went to a gas station and stood there for 15 minutes to see how long it took someone to fill up a Mitsubishi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 No Dumbo, like millions of normal people i stop at 7/11. they tend to be at Gas Stations so i amuse myself Coke sniffing and watching people save a few simpsons. 15 Mins to fill one small truck.?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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