fullyunenlightened Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 organic cold pressed oil--1 litre 1000b there must be village farmers still doing it the old way or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Who's paying a 1000 Baht a liter for oil, if you are e mail me and I will buy a press. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullyunenlightened Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 check it out, J this page http://www.healthfoodthailand.com/index.php?cPath=2&osCsid=224a41cbcb98404586534ffbc0945b49 hi level products you serious about pressing it? i reckon theres big money to be made doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 check it out, J this page http://www.healthfoodthailand.com/index.php?cPath=2&osCsid=224a41cbcb98404586534ffbc0945b49 hi level products you serious about pressing it? i reckon theres big money to be made doing that Hi there, had a look at the site, bit of a difference in selling coconut oil at a 1000 Baht a liter and selling the end produce at a 1000 Baht a bottle. Think if you look around you will see that raw coconut oil is used as bio Diesel, ego maybe 30 or 40 Baht a liter. If you have some plan and know how to market the stuff etc PM me and we can talk. I have a small rubber factory and plenty of coconut trees in the area. In saying that just don't see it as a money maker, maybe a specialized cottage industry, if you have the contacts to sell the product. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzydom Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 check it out, J this page http://www.healthfoodthailand.com/index.php?cPath=2&osCsid=224a41cbcb98404586534ffbc0945b49 hi level products you serious about pressing it? i reckon theres big money to be made doing that Hi there, had a look at the site, bit of a difference in selling coconut oil at a 1000 Baht a liter and selling the end produce at a 1000 Baht a bottle. Think if you look around you will see that raw coconut oil is used as bio Diesel, ego maybe 30 or 40 Baht a liter. If you have some plan and know how to market the stuff etc PM me and we can talk. I have a small rubber factory and plenty of coconut trees in the area. In saying that just don't see it as a money maker, maybe a specialized cottage industry, if you have the contacts to sell the product. Jim <deleted> jc , another dream out the window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullyunenlightened Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 check it out, J this page http://www.healthfoo...6534ffbc0945b49 hi level products you serious about pressing it? i reckon theres big money to be made doing that Hi there, had a look at the site, bit of a difference in selling coconut oil at a 1000 Baht a liter and selling the end produce at a 1000 Baht a bottle. Think if you look around you will see that raw coconut oil is used as bio Diesel, ego maybe 30 or 40 Baht a liter. If you have some plan and know how to market the stuff etc PM me and we can talk. I have a small rubber factory and plenty of coconut trees in the area. In saying that just don't see it as a money maker, maybe a specialized cottage industry, if you have the contacts to sell the product. Jim didnt mean to give the impression i might be into business, J im travelling all over-staying in temples mostly came across this or maybe the guy wants to buy by the ton? thanks fo the fuel oil idea might try asking truck drivers where they get it one would be taking a risk though-they wouldnt be too careful about cleanliness. god knows what might be mixed in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 check it out, J this page http://www.healthfoodthailand.com/index.php?cPath=2&osCsid=224a41cbcb98404586534ffbc0945b49 hi level products you serious about pressing it? i reckon theres big money to be made doing that Hi there, had a look at the site, bit of a difference in selling coconut oil at a 1000 Baht a liter and selling the end produce at a 1000 Baht a bottle. Think if you look around you will see that raw coconut oil is used as bio Diesel, ego maybe 30 or 40 Baht a liter. If you have some plan and know how to market the stuff etc PM me and we can talk. I have a small rubber factory and plenty of coconut trees in the area. In saying that just don't see it as a money maker, maybe a specialized cottage industry, if you have the contacts to sell the product. Jim <deleted> jc , another dream out the window May be one day some one will have and idea that works, but so far nothing, Probably had over 100 mail of dreamers. You live in hope Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullyunenlightened Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 check it out, J this page http://www.healthfoo...6534ffbc0945b49 hi level products you serious about pressing it? i reckon theres big money to be made doing that Hi there, had a look at the site, bit of a difference in selling coconut oil at a 1000 Baht a liter and selling the end produce at a 1000 Baht a bottle. Think if you look around you will see that raw coconut oil is used as bio Diesel, ego maybe 30 or 40 Baht a liter. If you have some plan and know how to market the stuff etc PM me and we can talk. I have a small rubber factory and plenty of coconut trees in the area. In saying that just don't see it as a money maker, maybe a specialized cottage industry, if you have the contacts to sell the product. Jim make your own http://central-america-forum.com/forum-topic/how-make-virgin-coconut-oil another way is to boil the c milk and skim off the oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 FUL, a few years ago I was in comtact with a Korean company wanting to buy rubber nuts. All very secret, they would not tell me a price or what it was to be used for. After many months of emails they finally said bio fuel. Price $50 a MT delivered to them. We sell rubber nuts for root stock at near on $200 a MT. Bio fuel is a dream at today's oil prices, maybe in the future oil will raise again and it may be an option. JIm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullyunenlightened Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 (edited) FUL, a few years ago I was in comtact with a Korean company wanting to buy rubber nuts. All very secret, they would not tell me a price or what it was to be used for. After many months of emails they finally said bio fuel. Price $50 a MT delivered to them. We sell rubber nuts for root stock at near on $200 a MT. Bio fuel is a dream at today's oil prices, maybe in the future oil will raise again and it may be an option. JIm hi james bio fuel from cnuts is a major operation got to have square miles of trees but this cooking oil thing....... i plan to go back to a monastery near lopburi within 2 weeks there, they have cooking facilities and i can try both ways of making the oil i reckon the just leave it to ferment and rise to the top method might be the easiest and cheapest way. im really looking forward to it. like hell am i paying 1000b a litre notice in the video they got 200ml from just 4 cnuts 200ml in a bottle youd pay 200-250b in the supermarkets you got a few acres of <deleted> trees and youre sitting on a goldmine the formula: just 2 thai villagers @ 250b a day 1 simple mechanical splitter-get the husks off quick 1 industrial-type shredder hydraulic press few big ssteel bowls and lids centrifugal spinner 1 very fine mesh filter 1 super fine filter fancy looking JARS i say jars not bottles. very hard to get out of bottles when solidified fancy looking labels sell it (initially) at great discount to stores in Singapore let the 2 guys do everything spend all of your time trying to decide whether to get a Bugatti or maserati or maybe Lamborghini joe Edited November 26, 2011 by fullyunenlightened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 FUL, a few years ago I was in comtact with a Korean company wanting to buy rubber nuts. All very secret, they would not tell me a price or what it was to be used for. After many months of emails they finally said bio fuel. Price $50 a MT delivered to them. We sell rubber nuts for root stock at near on $200 a MT. Bio fuel is a dream at today's oil prices, maybe in the future oil will raise again and it may be an option. JIm hi james bio fuel from cnuts is a major operation got to have square miles of trees but this cooking oil thing....... i plan to go back to a monastery near lopburi within 2 weeks there, they have cooking facilities and i can try both ways of making the oil i reckon the just leave it to ferment and rise to the top method might be the easiest and cheapest way. im really looking forward to it. like hell am i paying 1000b a litre notice in the video they got 200ml from just 4 cnuts 200ml in a bottle youd pay 200-250b in the supermarkets you got a few acres of <deleted> trees and youre sitting on a goldmine the formula: just 2 thai villagers @ 250b a day 1 simple mechanical splitter-get the husks off quick 1 industrial-type shredder hydraulic press few big ssteel bowls and lids centrifugal spinner 1 very fine mesh filter 1 super fine filter fancy looking JARS i say jars not bottles. very hard to get out of bottles when solidified fancy looking labels sell it (initially) at great discount to stores in Singapore let the 2 guys do everything spend all of your time trying to decide whether to get a Bugatti or maserati or maybe Lamborghini joe Joe if you walk in the foot prints of Buddha you will have no need for Bugatti's, Maserati's or Lamborghini's. JIm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Just as a PS, the coconut collector here pays 7 to 9 Baht a nut and picks up from your house or farm. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 FUL, a few years ago I was in comtact with a Korean company wanting to buy rubber nuts. All very secret, they would not tell me a price or what it was to be used for. After many months of emails they finally said bio fuel. Price $50 a MT delivered to them. We sell rubber nuts for root stock at near on $200 a MT. Bio fuel is a dream at today's oil prices, maybe in the future oil will raise again and it may be an option. JIm hi james bio fuel from cnuts is a major operation got to have square miles of trees but this cooking oil thing....... i plan to go back to a monastery near lopburi within 2 weeks there, they have cooking facilities and i can try both ways of making the oil i reckon the just leave it to ferment and rise to the top method might be the easiest and cheapest way. im really looking forward to it. like hell am i paying 1000b a litre notice in the video they got 200ml from just 4 cnuts 200ml in a bottle youd pay 200-250b in the supermarkets you got a few acres of <deleted> trees and youre sitting on a goldmine the formula: just 2 thai villagers @ 250b a day 1 simple mechanical splitter-get the husks off quick 1 industrial-type shredder hydraulic press few big ssteel bowls and lids centrifugal spinner 1 very fine mesh filter 1 super fine filter fancy looking JARS i say jars not bottles. very hard to get out of bottles when solidified fancy looking labels sell it (initially) at great discount to stores in Singapore let the 2 guys do everything spend all of your time trying to decide whether to get a Bugatti or maserati or maybe Lamborghini joe Don't forget about international export and shipping costs (very expensive), labels, sanitation and microbiological controls (very expensive), storage/warehousing, sales and marketing, etc. .... and many large competitors that are already up and running and selling product at a much larger economy-of-scale price that a small company can't compete with. Doing a successful business on paper is easy, but in real life it's very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullyunenlightened Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 good on yer to point it out, ed i used s'pore as an example i used it the same as if i mentioned korea, japan or taiwan theres where the big money is thailand? i feel theres too few to appreciate c oil in its optimal form well, who is there? the farangs. and only farangs. thais are not interested in things organic. wholefoods? i dont think wholefoods is in their dictionary i feel theres still a possibility to sell it here- but at great discount 'till you get a reputation. then of course you up the price jc......you say they charge up tp 9b a <deleted>. is it because youre farang? would they charge the same to their thai brothers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 No of cause they pay me me more as I am a farang. that is taken for granted if you are white they pay more. Get real. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullyunenlightened Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 no, jim this is what i do. i DO it............ been in thailand on and off 4 years i know their tricks. theyre not clean, not fair i go to the market every day. i say how much is this how much is that? 50 baht a kilo!?? are you joking? that stall over there is only 35. at first theyre defensive they stick to their guns. dont budge i go round and round checking on prices. theres always one stallholder thats new and uncorrupted and offers to sell at the going rate. from that one i buy. i also know now the going rate sometmes i go to the shameless rip off stalls and mention the true rate. i look at them. and i think (not say) "youre a bit of a cheat, a theif" its a soft thing. but it hits their heart i do that a few times over a few days. i get to be known that im not a first-time gullible tourist. i speak their language and become a 'local'. they know they cant cheat me and they give up. i know the feeling that accompany s cheating. i let them know it in subtle ways. it like a mirror here, in lopburi everyone knows me-at the market-and its no problem and its not just the market---its most every body. one has to haggle. if they still stick to cheating-i go somewhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chang35baht Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 TRULY UNENLIGHTENED. C35B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzydom Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 i know the feeling that accompany s cheating. i let them know it in subtle ways. it like a mirror here, in lopburi everyone knows me-at the market-and its no problem [unquote] Sounds like a case of "takes one to know one". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Except for all the oil ideas, the topic does raise an interesting point. If the local coconut collector is paying 7 to 9 Baht a nut, how many nuts per tree a year, how many trees per rai. Not a lot of work picking up fallen coconuts. Anyway planted 6 today. If I keep it upm maybe I can corner the market. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwonitoy Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 And if you're able to catch a monkey he'll pick you're coconuts for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveaniceday Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 If the local coconut collector is paying 7 to 9 Baht a nut, how many nuts per tree a year, how many trees per rai. Not a lot of work picking up fallen coconuts. I second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pond Life Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Small scale coconut pressing. http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Small scale coconut pressing. http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/index.php Very interesting read, not many trees per rai 17, Would say at the price of land today not really a viable investment, but well worth a bit of further investigation. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullyunenlightened Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Sounds like a case of "takes one to know one". youre right, oz i dont cheat anyone now, and not for a long time but in the past, i done a fair bit. not too much i believe any good cop that has success in catching crooks was once a crook himself you got to think like a crook to catch him-isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescollister Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 After having looked at coconut farming I have decided to give it a bit of a go. It definitely is no money maker, but there are some added benefits for me. Figure I can plant about 300 around the perimeter of the rubber factory, no loss of usable land, just a coconut fence line. Now when the trees are grown and we take the lower out put number of 50 nuts per tree, will get around 15,000 nuts a year. Buy a mechanical coconut splitter and sell the nuts to the wholesaler at 10 plus baht each. Should make about 100,000 a year, a bit of extra beer money. The real kicker for me is the husks, we use wood for smoking the rubber, but you can use coconut husks. No need to go hunting for old trees, cutting them up and transporting the wood back. It's time consuming and even though we don't pay for the wood it still costs in the form of fuel chainsaws etc. Plus as time goes on wood will become harder to find. Doesn't seem you need to do much for the trees, just stick them in the ground and wait. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullyunenlightened Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 good for you jim i couldnt resist it-i went and bought half a kg of fresh coconut flakes for 30b added water, squeezed it some, then put the stuff in cloth bag to get milk out its sitting there now fermenting. can hardly wait to get my hands on the oil im reading a book now---saturated fat may save your life by bruce fife its a real eye opener. its an in depth study of conventional oils and coconut oil if you want i can email the pdf to you or any one thats interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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