webfact Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 PROSTITUTION Transvestites, women warned against sex trade in Mideast Nantida Puangthong The Nation MUSCAT: -- Many Thai male cross-dressers get legitimate jobs in Oman as masseuses but choose to also offer sexual services on the side, a Thai embassy official in Muscat said. Panida Somao said the laws in Oman were very strict and only men were allowed to work at massage parlours for male customers. "But some Thai transvestites have exploited these laws and also offer sexual services," she said, adding that many of these men came to Oman before undergoing the sex-change operation. "Many of them work in Oman to earn enough money to finance this operation," Panida said. "Those who have already undergone the sex-change operation want to save money for cosmetic surgery so they can enter beauty pageants." She said a Thai transvestite usually charged Bt2,000 to Bt5,000 per hour for services in Oman, but this comes with huge risks. "When they get sexually transmitted diseases, they can't go see a doctor because the society here is not open about this," Panida explained. She added that last year, two Thai transvestites had to seek help from the embassy because they needed urgent medical attention. In Bahrain, another embassy official warned Thai women against choosing the wrong path for the sake of money. Thatree Chauvachata, counsellor at the Thai embassy in the Bahraini capital of Manama, said several Thai women willingly headed to Bahrain in the hope of making money from prostitution but usually ended up living in hell. "They lose all their freedom and have to serve all sorts of people arranged by their agents," he said. He was speaking after Bahraini authorities recently arrested 10 Thai women on charges of prostitution. Of them, three have been released because they were victims of human trafficking, while the remainder confessed that they had decided to enter the flesh trade for money. "Many of those who entered the trade willingly regret their decision," Thatree said. He said those willing to join the sex trade could choose the Bt300,000 or the Bt500,000 package before entering Bahrain. The package, he said, covered their air tickets and assurance that they can pass through the immigration procedure. The more expensive package includes a work visa that can allow them to work legitimately as a waitress or hairdresser, he said. "After these women land on Bahraini soil, they have to stay in premises provided by their agents. They cannot touch the money or leave the room until they have paid all the expenses of the trip," Thatree said. He said that though these women can earn about Bt3,000 to Bt4,000 per hour, it would take them about six months to repay all their debts. "They have no choice and have to serve customers who have different sexual needs or taste," he said, adding that these women also risk legal punishment. As per him, six Thai women are serving jail in Bahrain over prostitution charges, while some 16 others are awaiting court trial on the same charges. The three women found to be human-trafficking victims were allowed to board a flight to Thailand from Bahrain yesterday. -- The Nation 2012-08-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmazinkle Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Where do they get these journalists?...3000 to 4000 baht an hour..I have never been there but i doubt it....and AS per him..What do you mean Nantida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrysteve Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 VOMIT, VOMIT, VOMIT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTao Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) I feel sorry for the women who are genuine victims of human trafficking, but not for the women who deliberately go to a country where prostitution is known to be illegal, I am sure that if Oman was under a stricter form of Islamic rule these women would be facing a gruesome execution, not just imprisonment. Edited August 24, 2012 by TomTao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kerryd Posted August 24, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2012 Where do they get these journalists?...3000 to 4000 baht an hour..I have never been there but i doubt it....and AS per him..What do you mean Nantida? Never been there but are more qualified to comment on what prices are than a counsellor from the Thai Embassy in that particular country ? 3-4,000 baht an hour equals $96-128 USD (approx 365-480 AED). A couple years back that would be about what the going "short time" rate was for the various Asian/African women that crown the bars and nightclubs in Dubai and other GCC cities (Russian and other "white" women apparently command a much higher price). Many of those women have "day jobs" (hair dressers, clerks, office staff) that barely pay the rent in cities that are flush with oil money. A lot of them live 5-6 to an apartment and go out at night to try and supplement their incomes as their salaries are barely enough to survive on in those cities. Yes, even in conservative Muslim countries, the sex trade is not only alive and well, it flourishes. And as happens in other places (like some S.E.A. countries and India) women often get lured in with promises of nice jobs with good pay, only to find themselves forced into prostitution. Others get involved of their own free will when they realize the money that can be made (and how little they have left over from their regular employment). Regarding the "As per him" comment, I'm sure poor Nantida is heart-broken over the fact that her command of what is surely her second (or third ?) language isn't sufficient to meet the standards of all the English professors that scour her articles looking for minor errors in grammar. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Semper Posted August 24, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2012 women who deliberately go to a country where prostitution is known to be illegal As in Thailand? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesMad Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 women who deliberately go to a country where prostitution is known to be illegal As in Thailand? Absolutely Right!!! By law there are NO prostitutes in Thailand, only many friendly women... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldthaihand99 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 women who deliberately go to a country where prostitution is known to be illegal As in Thailand? For all intents & purposes, not really: "The law defines prostitution as any act done to gratify the sexual desire of another in exchange for money or any other benefit, but only if it is done “in a promiscuous manner”. The Prostitution Law does not define what exactly a “promiscuous manner” constitutes, and the act of prostitution by itself is not outlawed anymore, while solicitation is. The crime of solicitation is vaguely defined. "A person soliciting the services of a prostitute is liable under the Prostitution Law if the solicitation is done “openly and shamelessly or causes a nuisance to the public”, the penalty being a fine of up to 1,000 baht.[11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand#Legal_situation_and_history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 After living in Saudi Arabia for 10 years and traveling in other Persian Gulf countries one must realize that woman are on the bottom of the social scale. Most likely the man's camel would get better treatment...and when you think of a "TCN" (an Arab's word for third country national class) there is no fair treatment. Yes,many locals claim to be practicing their religion faithfully; yet, it is just meeting the rituals, not practicing it from their heart. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narratio Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Agree with KerryD - I spent over a decade working in the Mid east and yes, $75 -100 USD was the going price in Dubai for a short time. I left there in '96. At that point there was a large influx of Russians & Ukrainians, we generally lumped them under the heading "ex-Black Sea port military hookers". I've heard since that the Chinese were also moving into the market. Oh yes, the sex trade is still alive and flourishing in the mideast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 They are Muslim countries. There are no Thai sex trade in those countries, as it is against the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Shouldn't take too much. Against their religion and so on...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chads Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Sorry but is there a transvestite in the article's picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVisionBurma Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I actually found the following quote the most odd, in terms of the journalism... "Those who have already undergone the sex-change operation want to save money for cosmetic surgery so they can enter beauty pageants." Major article on the ins and outs of prostitution in Oman - and one of the main motivations, as researched by the journo, is to save up money to... enter beauty pageants?? Seems rather odd..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianP Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Sex rears it's ugly head again. She dances on one leg ,she dances on the other, in between the two she makes a living, and i am sure it goes a fur piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moto77 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Yes,many locals claim to be practicing their religion faithfully; yet, it is just meeting the rituals, not practicing it from their heart. Just like everywhere else in the world... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayaorganic Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Actually I live in Pattaya. Perhaps the Thai Foreign Ministry should be warning unsuspecting muslim men of the Thai Transvestites' "Roofy on the Nipple" trick that is practiced so often on them here... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayaorganic Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) I actually found the following quote the most odd, in terms of the journalism... "Those who have already undergone the sex-change operation want to save money for cosmetic surgery so they can enter beauty pageants." Major article on the ins and outs of prostitution in Oman - and one of the main motivations, as researched by the journo, is to save up money to... enter beauty pageants?? Seems rather odd..... Well it may seem odd to you, but that is really a key motivation for ladyboys to earn a truck load of money so they can eventually get a spot on the Alakarn Show. Perfectly normal. The price of these surgeries is very high. Edited August 24, 2012 by pattayaorganic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVisionBurma Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Well it may seem odd to you, but that is really a key motivation for ladyboys to earn a truck load of money so they can eventually get a spot on the Alakarn Show. Perfectly normal. Fair enough then - consider me educated..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycallahan Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Oh man... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Time to ink a free trade deal with Oman & Bahrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saroq Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Where do they get these journalists?...3000 to 4000 baht an hour..I have never been there but i doubt it....and AS per him..What do you mean Nantida? You've got to remember that the world is not populated by arse out of their pants poor farangs and in many, many, many countries US$95 - US$130 an hour for the services of a young professional sex worker is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) I have no sympathy for the Thai men who go there to work in the sex industry. I am sure they are well aware that cross dressing and homosexuality is ilegal in islamic countries. A crimial offence that carries the death penalty. The guy in the photo (victim) hardly even looks like a woman (an unattractive one). Edited August 24, 2012 by softgeorge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Good luck to them and if they decide to take the risk, they must be willing to pay the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbandung Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 They are Muslim countries. There are no Thai sex trade in those countries, as it is against the law. Ok then. Thanks for clarifying that. Nothing to talk about here folks. It isn't actually happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangmaikelly Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) VOMIT, VOMIT, VOMIT I guess we don't have to worry about you all coming to Thailand and having a bisexual experience as a result of lady boys eh? Reference that other very popular thread. Edited August 25, 2012 by chiangmaikelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) And what about the hundreds (maybe thousands) Middle Eastern men (probably using fake ID) who go to Pakistan, pay the parents of a 14 year old girl (to purportedly marry), then take her to an apartment, screw her for a week or two, then leave her pregnant and crying, and go back to the holy land. Edited August 25, 2012 by maidu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 VOMIT, VOMIT, VOMIT I guess we don't have to worry about you all coming to Thailand and having a bisexual experience as a result of lady boys eh? Reference that other very popular thread. Well definately won't have to worry about me stealing your ladyboys. Pass me the bucket quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Sorry but is there a transvestite in the article's picture? It was actually 45-old Thai national Mrs Inthira Sinsakkho, who was arrested on charges of luring Thai girls to go work in Bahrain under false pretences. They thought they were going to work in some sort of legitimate job there, but when they got there, they suddenly found they were forced to work as prostitutes to pay off the agency fee debt. http://www.thairath....ewspaper/285904 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangmaikelly Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) VOMIT, VOMIT, VOMIT I guess we don't have to worry about you all coming to Thailand and having a bisexual experience as a result of lady boys eh? Reference that other very popular thread. Well definately won't have to worry about me stealing your ladyboys. Pass me the bucket quick. Well thanks for that and I won't horn in on your parade in Sydney. Edited August 25, 2012 by chiangmaikelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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