KRS1 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Was just looking at the Honda big wing site and they have the NC700x listed at 229 kilos, thats 504.859 pounds ! My SV 650 only weighs 379 pounds. What the hell has Honda been eating?.....dayummmn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I think I read somewhere (maybe on here) that the engine is effectively half of a Honda Jazz engine. I'd guess that's not particularly light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Weight pro/contra is already discussed in the Honda Nc700x-Thread. Why starting it here again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumetCycle Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I imagine the dual clutch transmission adds a bit of weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Weight pro/contra is already discussed in the Honda Nc700x-Thread. Why starting it here again? just because we want you to ask why? still funny for honda to release a 230 kg bike really man. What they think or which materials they use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pichus Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hard Steel Frame and looked cheap Metal box swing arm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I imagine the dual clutch transmission adds a bit of weight. Exactly. The non dual clutch version weights 214kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I imagine the dual clutch transmission adds a bit of weight. Exactly. The non dual clutch version weights 214kg. 214 kg? Quite a lot for a bike with 55hp, especially at the inflated Thai price. Maybe AP Honda is pricing the bike by the kg now? Like pork at the market... although at around 2000 baht per kilo it's a bit steep if you ask me, but at least you get a wing on the tank (if you like that kind of thing). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 I imagine the dual clutch transmission adds a bit of weight. Exactly. The non dual clutch version weights 214kg. 214 kg? Quite a lot for a bike with 55hp, especially at the inflated Thai price. Maybe AP Honda is pricing the bike by the kg now? Like pork at the market... although at around 2000 baht per kilo it's a bit steep if you ask me, but at least you get a wing on the tank (if you like that kind of thing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) I imagine the dual clutch transmission adds a bit of weight. Exactly. The non dual clutch version weights 214kg. 214 kg is still heavy @ 471.789 lbsThats more than 100 lbs more than my SV 650 with 70+ hp. anyone have torque specs for it? Edited September 25, 2012 by KRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I imagine the dual clutch transmission adds a bit of weight. Exactly. The non dual clutch version weights 214kg. 15kg for a dual clutch and ABS. 214 is without ABS (looked it up on the Honda USA page) so it's still really heavy. What's in this bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 oh wait now i remember, isnt the usual place for the gastank now used as storage space instead? So i guess that storage space would add atleast another 10-15 lbs minimum? Even so, where's all the other extra weight coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 oh wait now i remember, isnt the usual place for the gastank now used as storage space instead? So i guess that storage space would add atleast another 10-15 lbs minimum? Even so, all the other extra weight coming from? Not sure it's incredibly heavy. After all, according to wikipedia, a curb weight Ninja 650 weighs 211 kg. Not sure if that is the ABS model or not though (assume so). They also list the aluminium framed SV650 as having a curb weight of 198 kg and that ABS free. The FZ6 is listed at 186 kg dry...another >20 for fluids and you're in the same range. So it looks like it is a bit heavier than the similar sized competition, and definitely down on the kg/HP hunt. I'd reckon that the storage area weighs no more than the ABS system, so if you'd look at the 214 as without the DCT and storage area, but with ABS, it's nearly the same as the ER-6F... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I imagine the dual clutch transmission adds a bit of weight. Exactly. The non dual clutch version weights 214kg. 214 kg? Quite a lot for a bike with 55hp, especially at the inflated Thai price. Maybe AP Honda is pricing the bike by the kg now? Like pork at the market... although at around 2000 baht per kilo it's a bit steep if you ask me, but at least you get a wing on the tank (if you like that kind of thing). good comment! so i hope they do not make the incoming cbr500 like 250 kg. it will be very expensive this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 So it looks like it is a bit heavier than the similar sized competition, and definitely down on the kg/HP hunt. Yep, the Nc700x is definetly not made for racing. But for loads of fun with a low rpm torque monster. But the price has to go down before i will buy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 That lard ass is only 130lb lighter than my VTX1800! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) oh wait now i remember, isnt the usual place for the gastank now used as storage space instead? So i guess that storage space would add atleast another 10-15 lbs minimum? Even so, all the other extra weight coming from? Not sure it's incredibly heavy. After all, according to wikipedia, a curb weight Ninja 650 weighs 211 kg. Not sure if that is the ABS model or not though (assume so). They also list the aluminium framed SV650 as having a curb weight of 198 kg and that ABS free. The FZ6 is listed at 186 kg dry...another >20 for fluids and you're in the same range. So it looks like it is a bit heavier than the similar sized competition, and definitely down on the kg/HP hunt. I'd reckon that the storage area weighs no more than the ABS system, so if you'd look at the 214 as without the DCT and storage area, but with ABS, it's nearly the same as the ER-6F... Those numbers on wikipedia appear to be wrong. For the SV 650 it list a dry weight of 379 lbs for the S model...wet weight list 436 lbs....there is no way there is 57 lbs of fluid capacity. Just taking the fuel capacity into consideration which is 4.5 gallons, the weight for the fuel alone would come out to 4.5 x 6.25 lbs (72degrees f.....US gallon) = 28.125 lbs Add the weight of engine oil and coolant (1.77 - 1.875 lbs per quart of oil), it still would not add up to 57 lbs, there's additional weight that Mark Tuttle Jr pulled out of his ass from a bike review in 2004 that is no longer available for reference. Those numbers are bogus and do not add up from wikipedia. EDIT: The wet weight for the S and SF (full fairing) models are also listed as the same...they shouldnt be because the S model does not have full fairings and is listed as being 7 lbs lighter than the full fairing version (another mistake because the side and bottom fairings as well as mounting arms weigh more than 7 lbs), wet weights however are listed as being the same. Edited September 26, 2012 by KRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 oh wait now i remember, isnt the usual place for the gastank now used as storage space instead? So i guess that storage space would add atleast another 10-15 lbs minimum? Even so, all the other extra weight coming from? Not sure it's incredibly heavy. After all, according to wikipedia, a curb weight Ninja 650 weighs 211 kg. Not sure if that is the ABS model or not though (assume so). They also list the aluminium framed SV650 as having a curb weight of 198 kg and that ABS free. The FZ6 is listed at 186 kg dry...another >20 for fluids and you're in the same range. So it looks like it is a bit heavier than the similar sized competition, and definitely down on the kg/HP hunt. I'd reckon that the storage area weighs no more than the ABS system, so if you'd look at the 214 as without the DCT and storage area, but with ABS, it's nearly the same as the ER-6F... Those numbers on wikipedia appear to be wrong. For the SV 650 it list a dry weight of 379 lbs for the S model...wet weight list 436 lbs....there is no way there is 57 lbs of fluid capacity. Just taking the fuel capacity into consideration which is 4.5 gallons, the weight for the fuel alone would come out to 4.5 x 6.25 lbs (72degrees f.....US gallon) = 28.125 lbs Add the weight of engine oil and coolant (1.77 - 1.875 lbs per quart of oil), it still would not add up to 57 lbs, there's additional weight that Mark Tuttle Jr pulled out of his ass from a bike review in 2004 that is no longer available for reference. Those numbers are bogus and do not add up from wikipedia. EDIT: The wet weight for the S and SF (full fairing) models are also listed as the same...they shouldnt be because the S model does not have full fairings and is listed as being 7 lbs lighter than the full fairing version (another mistake because the side and bottom fairings as well as mounting arms weigh more than 7 lbs), wet weights however are listed as being the same. Not sure where the numbers come from; does dry weight include batteries and other 'ancillary' items? Would be nice if the industry would come up with a standarised test and force the manufacturers to all follow the same rules so consumers have real knowledge of what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 oh wait now i remember, isnt the usual place for the gastank now used as storage space instead? So i guess that storage space would add atleast another 10-15 lbs minimum? Even so, all the other extra weight coming from? Not sure it's incredibly heavy. After all, according to wikipedia, a curb weight Ninja 650 weighs 211 kg. Not sure if that is the ABS model or not though (assume so). They also list the aluminium framed SV650 as having a curb weight of 198 kg and that ABS free. The FZ6 is listed at 186 kg dry...another >20 for fluids and you're in the same range. So it looks like it is a bit heavier than the similar sized competition, and definitely down on the kg/HP hunt. I'd reckon that the storage area weighs no more than the ABS system, so if you'd look at the 214 as without the DCT and storage area, but with ABS, it's nearly the same as the ER-6F... So it's only a bit heavier than the er6, and only 200,000 baht more expensive, and only 20hp down in power. But it has a wing on the tank... Gotcha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 oh wait now i remember, isnt the usual place for the gastank now used as storage space instead? So i guess that storage space would add atleast another 10-15 lbs minimum? Even so, all the other extra weight coming from? Not sure it's incredibly heavy. After all, according to wikipedia, a curb weight Ninja 650 weighs 211 kg. Not sure if that is the ABS model or not though (assume so). They also list the aluminium framed SV650 as having a curb weight of 198 kg and that ABS free. The FZ6 is listed at 186 kg dry...another >20 for fluids and you're in the same range. So it looks like it is a bit heavier than the similar sized competition, and definitely down on the kg/HP hunt. I'd reckon that the storage area weighs no more than the ABS system, so if you'd look at the 214 as without the DCT and storage area, but with ABS, it's nearly the same as the ER-6F... So it's only a bit heavier than the er6, and only 200,000 baht more expensive, and only 20hp down in power. But it has a wing on the tank... Gotcha... Not forget: It is "Made In Japan" not "Made in Thailand" like yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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