webfact Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Rayong water supply hijacked by thieves By Staff Reporter RAYONG: -- A large district has water supply cut off by thieves A large area within the Rayong district, South of Pattaya, saw both commercial and domestic water supplies dry up this week and investigators went to the pumping station, only to find that someone had been there before them, and cut the power supply cable, stealing 50 metres of valuable copper cable and, at the same time, rendering the whole pumping station useless. Within the City, Schools along with Hospitals, shops businesses and homes were all without water, causing, in some cases the schools to close as they are all supplied by the new pumping station. Avoiding the security guards, the thieves took a huge risk to steal the high voltage cables, a risk that has, in the past, proven fatal on numerous occasions and authorities are of the opinion that the criminals were not amateurs but instead, when found, will prove to be experienced electricians as the cables were live at the time when they were removed. Full story: http://www.pattaya10...ked-by-thieves/ --Pattaya 103 FM 2012-10-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted October 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) got to love the logic put forward by the authorites...a gang of rogue electricans are doing this because the cables were live.... One suspects a competant electrician would be able to nick the cables wihout getting himself electrocuted, and one suspects an electrician will make more money off actually doing electrical work than what they would get for the scap value of 50m of copper cable... My opinion a gang of yahoo's with an aluminum ladder and a hacksaw... ....seen the net result of this in Africa, two gentlemen attempted to nick some live 6.6kv cable with a hacksaw and aluminum ladder, as always with safety first thing in one of the gentleman's minds...he held the aluminum ladder for his collegue with hacksaw, so the ladder didnt fall over, but didnt work out too well for either of them... The photo in this article shows great electrical safety practices I see...is that a steel or aluminum ladder I see.... nice to see he has his hard hat on...but is that flip flops he has on his feet...? Edited October 18, 2012 by Soutpeel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonjake Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 dont forget though,, that the electricions will be paid again for putting the new stuff back,,lol round and round we go,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Desperate times but would love to find out how copper cable on the exterior of a transformer can render a pumping station useless or is that just a delay in getting it up and running again when another batch of copper can be found? Doubt the value of the copper would be worth the risk but some thieves really don't take that into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 dont forget though,, that the electricions will be paid again for putting the new stuff back,,lol round and round we go,, this is true..I never thought of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Desperate times but would love to find out how copper cable on the exterior of a transformer can render a pumping station useless or is that just a delay in getting it up and running again when another batch of copper can be found? Doubt the value of the copper would be worth the risk but some thieves really don't take that into account. One suspects the cables concerned powered the pumps....I dont think the photo shown is actually from the pump station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Got to be a bit more than just '50m of cable' as water still off in our part of Rayong City after 40 hours. Running on back up tanks at the moment. In the photo from the op the ladder looks, from its length, to be bamboo and at least the fuses are disconnected to isolate the transformer he is climbing. Note the Tx to the left still has fuses in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyDee Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Desperate times but would love to find out how copper cable on the exterior of a transformer can render a pumping station useless or is that just a delay in getting it up and running again when another batch of copper can be found? Doubt the value of the copper would be worth the risk but some thieves really don't take that into account. One suspects the cables concerned powered the pumps....I dont think the photo shown is actually from the pump station I can understand your suspicion but in fact it is from the site. i just added the other 2 which are equally uninteresting but do show the ladder is bamboo. a slow news day all round from what I can see. I would post them here but dont think u can post pics on TV kind regards tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Water just starting to flow at our location, very low pressure, will pass on the first hour or so as water is cloudy. Hope tank supply lasts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Bamboo Ladder !! --Pattaya 103 FM 2012-10-18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman00927 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I was a signalman for a US railroad company and at night thieves could steal up to a half mile of #10 bare copper wire on our telephone poles. When you have a couple hundred miles of wire and poles it is pretty easy. Unless some railroad cops catch you first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 In the photo from the op the ladder looks, from its length, to be bamboo and at least the fuses are disconnected to isolate the transformer he is climbing. Note the Tx to the left still has fuses in. Fuses ?....dont they use breakers these days ? you can see fuses this in this photo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) Bamboo Ladder !! --Pattaya 103 FM 2012-10-18 Hard hat and flip flops (slippers) as well I see plus no fall harness or safety glasses...oh I forgot..Thailand not same farangland... Edited October 18, 2012 by Soutpeel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Water just starting to flow at our location, very low pressure, will pass on the first hour or so as water is cloudy. Hope tank supply lasts. Easily solved...someone need to give Science minister Plopadop a call and borrow some of his water moving machines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 In the photo from the op the ladder looks, from its length, to be bamboo and at least the fuses are disconnected to isolate the transformer he is climbing. Note the Tx to the left still has fuses in. Fuses ?....dont they use breakers these days ? you can see fuses this in this photo ? Well I think so, photo in original post, above the right hand transformer three 'dangly bits' (sorry to use technical term) I think are fuses. Notice in left hand transformer they ( the dangly bits) are in place not hanging. For info , water is now off again (for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newermonkey Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I bet you this was done by Colombian expert electricians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean999 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Sounds like the Gypsies have finally got as far as Thailand. That must of been some trek in their caravans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNotaNumber Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 ..... and one suspects an electrician will make more money off actually doing electrical work than what they would get for the scap value of 50m of copper cable... Check the cost of thick copper cable used to supply power to large transformers. You will be very surprised. That stuff is worth stealing even in the most highly-paid countries of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyjon Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 got to love the logic put forward by the authorites...a gang of rogue electricans are doing this because the cables were live.... One suspects a competant electrician would be able to nick the cables wihout getting himself electrocuted, and one suspects an electrician will make more money off actually doing electrical work than what they would get for the scap value of 50m of copper cable... My opinion a gang of yahoo's with an aluminum ladder and a hacksaw... ....seen the net result of this in Africa, two gentlemen attempted to nick some live 6.6kv cable with a hacksaw and aluminum ladder, as always with safety first thing in one of the gentleman's minds...he held the aluminum ladder for his collegue with hacksaw, so the ladder didnt fall over, but didnt work out too well for either of them... The photo in this article shows great electrical safety practices I see...is that a steel or aluminum ladder I see.... nice to see he has his hard hat on...but is that flip flops he has on his feet...? He is climbing a bamboo ladder,, what if it rains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijer Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 got to love the logic put forward by the authorites...a gang of rogue electricans are doing this because the cables were live.... One suspects a competant electrician would be able to nick the cables wihout getting himself electrocuted, and one suspects an electrician will make more money off actually doing electrical work than what they would get for the scap value of 50m of copper cable... My opinion a gang of yahoo's with an aluminum ladder and a hacksaw... ....seen the net result of this in Africa, two gentlemen attempted to nick some live 6.6kv cable with a hacksaw and aluminum ladder, as always with safety first thing in one of the gentleman's minds...he held the aluminum ladder for his collegue with hacksaw, so the ladder didnt fall over, but didnt work out too well for either of them... The photo in this article shows great electrical safety practices I see...is that a steel or aluminum ladder I see.... nice to see he has his hard hat on...but is that flip flops he has on his feet...? Actually you would probably find that almost all workers in Thailand use bamboo ladders. You are correct about the flip flops though, but they are made of rubber so provide great insulation. I love the statement that the thieves avoided the security guard. Walk in with a 5 m bamboo ladder and enough tools to disconnect the cable, then roll up 50 m (probably weighed as much as one of the thieves) of high voltage cable and head back out without the security guard noticing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijer Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 In the photo from the op the ladder looks, from its length, to be bamboo and at least the fuses are disconnected to isolate the transformer he is climbing. Note the Tx to the left still has fuses in. Fuses ?....dont they use breakers these days ? you can see fuses this in this photo ? No they use breakers in buildings, supply lines use fuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijer Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Rayong water supply hijacked by thieves The title implies the thieves took the water, which would have been a more interesting story. Imagine thieves break into the pumping station, digging a tunnel, connecting 50 km of pipe and diverting the water to their parched land. The thieves believe nobody will notice this newly installed pipe and follow it to the final destination to locate the hijacked water! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Imagine thieves break into the pumping station, digging a tunnel, connecting 50 km of pipe and diverting the water to their parched land. The thieves believe nobody will notice this newly installed pipe and follow it to the final destination to locate the hijacked water! You have figured out Science ministers Plopadop's cunning plan to supply water to drought stricken North East.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konini Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 ..... and one suspects an electrician will make more money off actually doing electrical work than what they would get for the scap value of 50m of copper cable... Check the cost of thick copper cable used to supply power to large transformers. You will be very surprised. That stuff is worth stealing even in the most highly-paid countries of the world. This has been a massive problem in Australia for years now. Lots more work in the security guard sector, but they're still getting away with it. They are obviously very organised too at the top of the food chain, as there are a lot of big coils disappearing from construction/renovation sites - by big, I mean coils as tall as me and probably as wide as they are tall - they would take a lot of lifting gear to fall onto the back of a lorry. There must be massive money in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidstipek Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 In the photo from the op the ladder looks, from its length, to be bamboo and at least the fuses are disconnected to isolate the transformer he is climbing. Note the Tx to the left still has fuses in. Fuses ?....dont they use breakers these days ? you can see fuses this in this photo ? No they use breakers in buildings, supply lines use fuses. Breakers are not weather oriented and not suited for this duty. If they get damagedd... tomany different manufactures and mountings. Even indoors large electrical break points are still protected with Solid fuses. Cost effective! and do job very well.Line Votage is always protected by "Shotgun Fuses" They named because they sound like a Blast from Shotgun (Rifle) when shorted. Bast (Flash) can be seen and heard for miles. The internal links in them are replaceable. (In the field you just look for hanging fuse... with Fuse Pole (fiberglass composite) you attach to fuse and unhook it while on ground if pole long enough. Unscrew case remove discharged link replace reassemble, hook fuse back on bottom support and swing fuse up and push to connect!) Easy to spot where trouble is if during storm, crew just does a drive-by of transformer sights and looks for hanging fuse.... Then for cause (if storm) Another note same "fuse casing" can be used for multiple amperage links. carry boxes of different size (amperage) links, maybe 100 in box, and maybe 10-20 fuse cases. Some crews just replace complete assembly and rebuild later... quicker! (More Nap Time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 got to love the logic put forward by the authorites...a gang of rogue electricans are doing this because the cables were live.... One suspects a competant electrician would be able to nick the cables wihout getting himself electrocuted, and one suspects an electrician will make more money off actually doing electrical work than what they would get for the scap value of 50m of copper cable... My opinion a gang of yahoo's with an aluminum ladder and a hacksaw... ....seen the net result of this in Africa, two gentlemen attempted to nick some live 6.6kv cable with a hacksaw and aluminum ladder, as always with safety first thing in one of the gentleman's minds...he held the aluminum ladder for his collegue with hacksaw, so the ladder didnt fall over, but didnt work out too well for either of them... The photo in this article shows great electrical safety practices I see...is that a steel or aluminum ladder I see.... nice to see he has his hard hat on...but is that flip flops he has on his feet...? He is climbing a bamboo ladder,, what if it rains? Not to worry, he's wearing Buddha amulets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijer Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 In the photo from the op the ladder looks, from its length, to be bamboo and at least the fuses are disconnected to isolate the transformer he is climbing. Note the Tx to the left still has fuses in. Fuses ?....dont they use breakers these days ? you can see fuses this in this photo ? No they use breakers in buildings, supply lines use fuses. Breakers are not weather oriented and not suited for this duty. If they get damagedd... tomany different manufactures and mountings. Even indoors large electrical break points are still protected with Solid fuses. Cost effective! and do job very well.Line Votage is always protected by "Shotgun Fuses" They named because they sound like a Blast from Shotgun (Rifle) when shorted. Bast (Flash) can be seen and heard for miles. The internal links in them are replaceable. (In the field you just look for hanging fuse... with Fuse Pole (fiberglass composite) you attach to fuse and unhook it while on ground if pole long enough. Unscrew case remove discharged link replace reassemble, hook fuse back on bottom support and swing fuse up and push to connect!) Easy to spot where trouble is if during storm, crew just does a drive-by of transformer sights and looks for hanging fuse.... Then for cause (if storm) Another note same "fuse casing" can be used for multiple amperage links. carry boxes of different size (amperage) links, maybe 100 in box, and maybe 10-20 fuse cases. Some crews just replace complete assembly and rebuild later... quicker! (More Nap Time) Thank you, I didn't want to go into that much detail, but now the rest of TV has a better idea why fuses are used instead of breakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 got to love the logic put forward by the authorites...a gang of rogue electricans are doing this because the cables were live.... One suspects a competant electrician would be able to nick the cables wihout getting himself electrocuted, and one suspects an electrician will make more money off actually doing electrical work than what they would get for the scap value of 50m of copper cable... My opinion a gang of yahoo's with an aluminum ladder and a hacksaw... ....seen the net result of this in Africa, two gentlemen attempted to nick some live 6.6kv cable with a hacksaw and aluminum ladder, as always with safety first thing in one of the gentleman's minds...he held the aluminum ladder for his collegue with hacksaw, so the ladder didnt fall over, but didnt work out too well for either of them... The photo in this article shows great electrical safety practices I see...is that a steel or aluminum ladder I see.... nice to see he has his hard hat on...but is that flip flops he has on his feet...? Actually you would probably find that almost all workers in Thailand use bamboo ladders. You are correct about the flip flops though, but they are made of rubber so provide great insulation. I love the statement that the thieves avoided the security guard. Walk in with a 5 m bamboo ladder and enough tools to disconnect the cable, then roll up 50 m (probably weighed as much as one of the thieves) of high voltage cable and head back out without the security guard noticing. Seems the cable was more alive than the security... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenervoussurgeon Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 got to love the logic put forward by the authorites...a gang of rogue electricans are doing this because the cables were live.... One suspects a competant electrician would be able to nick the cables wihout getting himself electrocuted, and one suspects an electrician will make more money off actually doing electrical work than what they would get for the scap value of 50m of copper cable... My opinion a gang of yahoo's with an aluminum ladder and a hacksaw... ....seen the net result of this in Africa, two gentlemen attempted to nick some live 6.6kv cable with a hacksaw and aluminum ladder, as always with safety first thing in one of the gentleman's minds...he held the aluminum ladder for his collegue with hacksaw, so the ladder didnt fall over, but didnt work out too well for either of them... The photo in this article shows great electrical safety practices I see...is that a steel or aluminum ladder I see.... nice to see he has his hard hat on...but is that flip flops he has on his feet...? Actually you would probably find that almost all workers in Thailand use bamboo ladders. You are correct about the flip flops though, but they are made of rubber so provide great insulation. I love the statement that the thieves avoided the security guard. Walk in with a 5 m bamboo ladder and enough tools to disconnect the cable, then roll up 50 m (probably weighed as much as one of the thieves) of high voltage cable and head back out without the security guard noticing. Come on ,he has to catch up on his sleep sometime so that he can do his day job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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