Popular Post webfact Posted November 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2013 Crisis-hit Thai politics in new cycle of tumult: expertsby Kelly MACNAMARABANGKOK, November 23, 2013 (AFP) - Thai politics has entered a tumultuous new era, analysts say, as the beleaguered ruling party slugs it out against an onslaught of opposition challenges and major rival protests menace the capital.Tens of thousands of anti-government demonstrators and the pro-government "Red Shirts" are expected to mass in Bangkok Sunday as the turbulent nation sees its most significant political street action since bloody rallies in 2010.The ruling Puea Thai party -- viewed as a conduit for divisive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra -- is under fire after failing to push through two major policies that have incensed its enemies, and even alienated some supporters."We are going to see ongoing tension," said analyst Thitinan Pongsudhirak, of Bangkok's Chulalongkorn University, following a Constitutional Court ruling this week scuppering plans by Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra -- Thaksin's sister -- for a fully-elected senate."The anti-government protests are strong enough now to stymie government policy work and without the ability to get policy work done, I think that we are beginning to see the new electoral cycle in motion," Thitinan said.Thailand has been rocked by periodic outbreaks of protest violence since Thaksin was deposed in a military coup seven years ago.Observers say the latest crisis was triggered by a wave of anger unleashed by a Puea Thai amnesty plan that could have allowed Thaksin's return from self-imposed exile -- and pardoned those responsible for a deadly 2010 military crackdown on his "Red Shirt" supporters.The plan galvanised the opposition, sparking anti-government protests that have not ebbed despite a senate move quashing the bill last week.Puea Thai was battered further by the Constitutional Court verdict -- although it escaped the judicial dissolution that removed two previous Thaksin-allied governments.Now the opposition Democrat Party, whose last stint in power came as a result of a parliamentary vote after those party dissolutions, has lined up a battery of challenges to the government.Yingluck faces opposition calls to resign and is also set to defend government policy in a no-confidence debate next week.Other legal and institutional moves include a complaint to the Constitutional Court over a $69 billion Puea Thai infrastructure plan."(The court decision) represents the royalist establishment's overarching strategy to push the Yingluck government from power through the use of legal attrition -- wearing away the Puea Thai government bit by bit," said Paul Chambers, an academic at Chiang Mai University.Thailand, which has seen 18 actual or attempted coups since it became a constitutional monarchy in 1932, has appeared irreconcilably polarised over Thaksin.The telecoms tycoon-turned-politician has ardent support from many of the country's rural and working class and Red Shirts demonstrators.But he is loathed among the elite and middle classes, who accuse him of corruption.He is seen as pitted against the military-backed establishment behind the coup and the royalist and nationalist "Yellow Shirt" protest group, whose street protests helped unseat him.While the elite-backed Democrats have not won an elected majority in some two decades, Thaksin and his allies have repeatedly demonstrated strong poll support.Observers say the ruling against the attempted senate amendment was aimed at preventing Thaksin from consolidating power in both houses.Should the crisis force Yingluck to dissolve parliament's lower house, bringing forward an election currently expected in 2015, her party is expected to win."Thaksin simply has the most supporters in Thailand who will vote. But this is not a good time for a dissolution. Now, Puea Thai is the least popular than it ever has been," Chambers said.The amnesty debacle reduced the party's standing in the eyes of many Reds, who fear it would have absolved key Democrats of blame over the breakup of their 2010 street protests that left more than 90 people dead.Michael Montesano at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore suggested the amnesty bill was a political olive branch between Thaksin and some erstwhile foes, with "the backing of a number of elements of the Thai elite".But he said the anti-government protests and Red Shirt anger at the amnesty showed these groups had failed to "ensure the buy-in of their mass followings"."Behind-the-scenes elite fixes no longer work as well as they once did in Thailand," he said. -- (c) Copyright AFP 2013-11-23 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Looking at the 'tumult' in Thailand I'd bet Hun Sen must be thinking maybe things aren't so bad in Cambodia after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jpeg Posted November 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2013 Who is this guy? Jonathan Head under a pseudonym? I do wish these foreign journalists would spend more time inside the country of which they are writing <deleted> about. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 "Crisis-hit Thai politics in new cycle of tumult: experts" Thanks for that riveting non-news. Don't really know how we would have ever understood what was going on without such an in-depth analysis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakseeda Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Kelly MacNamara... where the hell did you get that information from,, and you have the cheek to call yourself a journalist... wan*er more like... or is Kelly a girl playing with her "Rabbit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 "Thaksin simply has the most supporters in Thailand who will vote. But this is not a good time for a dissolution. Now, Puea Thai is the least popular than it ever has been," Chambers said. Now, that is a discovery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Siripon Posted November 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2013 I recommend all readers to read the article by Thitinan, mentioned above, written a day or 2 ago in the paper that can't be mentioned. In my opinion he made a lot of sense. Come on the Democrats and all civil groups, let's move forward on political reform. And red shirts- leave behind your former leader and his rich minions, join for real progress in Thailand. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emptyset Posted November 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2013 Who is this guy? Jonathan Head under a pseudonym? I do wish these foreign journalists would spend more time inside the country of which they are writing <deleted> about. What guy? Michael Montesano? He doesn't live in Thailand, true, but neither has he said anything too controversial there. Many analysts do think there was a deal between Thaksin and the elite and the amnesty bill was part of that. I'm not so sure. It might be true, but it's not like the elite are monolithic anyway. But what is definitely true is that what forced the government to back down isn't anything the elite did, but rather because of the opposition from the red shirts and anti-government protesters. So what do you disagree with? Anything specific or did you just want to get an ad hominem remark in about Jonathan Head (who lives full time in Thailand as far as I know) and win some likes from the gallery? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyset Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I recommend all readers to read the article by Thitinan, mentioned above, written a day or 2 ago in the paper that can't be mentioned. In my opinion he made a lot of sense. Come on the Democrats and all civil groups, let's move forward on political reform. And red shirts- leave behind your former leader and his rich minions, join for real progress in Thailand. Agree. Typically measured article from Thitinan. I'm still not sure I see the CC's move as a 'positive' (despite the fact that they didn't dissolve PT as they might've done in the past), but there's definitely a lot to what he says there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post waza Posted November 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) Kelly MacNamara... where the hell did you get that information from,, and you have the cheek to call yourself a journalist... wan*er more like... or is Kelly a girl playing with her "Rabbit". The bulk of this article, Kelly based on a lot of dated and basic information from Paul Chambers, and incorrectly states he is an academic at Chiang Mai University. In fact according to his biography he worked at CMU for 1 year, 2005-2006, he is now the Director of Research, South East Asian Institute of Global Studies. There he runs the Thai and Southeast Asian Studies Program at Payap University which is a one- or two-semester academic program for students primarily interested in becoming proficient in the Thai language and knowledgeable about Thai culture, the greater Mekong Sub-Region, and Southeast Asia in general. That not to say that all the information is incorrect, in fact the bulk of it is accurate and is generally known. Edited November 23, 2013 by waza 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 "We are going to see ongoing tension," said analyst Thitinan Pongsudhirak, of Bangkok's Chulalongkorn University Is the guy an analyst, or a crystalballist? I hope nobody paid him for this flash of genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) Who is this guy? Jonathan Head under a pseudonym? I do wish these foreign journalists would spend more time inside the country of which they are writing <deleted> about. I would call Jonathan Head a <deleted>, but than I would be insulting <deleted>. Edited November 24, 2013 by tomross46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 As usual a couple of true points and a whole lot of bul.sh.t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 It's an AFP story written for an international audience, not a local audience - hence the generalisations that are not intended to inform us, but people overseas who can't find Thailand on the map . Not worth us commenting on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Nice to get something other than The Nation Thanks Thaivisa The democratic parties Media Division can get rather monotonous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBrit Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Who is this guy? Jonathan Head under a pseudonym? I do wish these foreign journalists would spend more time inside the country of which they are writing <deleted> about. Sorry.. just why is this <deleted>? What precisely is inaccurate in the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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