Pralaad Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 If boat operators story is true, as sad as it sounds but the crying wolf story does become a reality Sorry this is ThaiVisa, the Thais are wrong and you know it you apologist <deleted> !!! May be you can explain it, i am little slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai99 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) If boat operators story is true, as sad as it sounds but the crying wolf story does become a reality Sorry this is ThaiVisa, the Thais are wrong and you know it you apologist <deleted> !!! May be you can explain it, i am little slow Obviously you are................ Let me put it simply, here on Thai Visa Thais are always wrong, Farangs are always right, accidents that happen in western countries are, well, accidents,. But, when they happen in Thailand they are a slant on the whole population, if a Thai guy has an accident in Koh Samui, my wife is according to ThaiVisa, stupid 1000 Kms away, simply because she is Thai. Of course, the same people that write such drivel would never dare come out in real life, makes them worse in my books ! Edited April 25, 2014 by Banzai99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pralaad Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 If boat operators story is true, as sad as it sounds but the crying wolf story does become a reality Sorry this is ThaiVisa, the Thais are wrong and you know it you apologist <deleted> !!! May be you can explain it, i am little slow Obviously you are................ Let me put it simply, here on Thai Visa Thais are always wrong, Farangs are always right, accidents that happen in western countries are, well, accidents,. But, when they happen in Thailand they are a slant on the whole population, if a Thai guy has an accident in Koh Samui, my wife is stupid 1000 Kms away, simply because she is Thai. Well thank you for time to explain. If you were little less of a <deleted>, people might actually appreciate your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Accident? Deliberately not slowing down to at least HAVE A LOOK to see if the boys were really in trouble or not was no accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVINMIKE Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Their feeble excuses of "they did it before as a prank" don't wash either . . . when someone is drowning you can see easily from the body language, the look in their eyes, and their tone of voice when it's serious or not . . . so that's just total <deleted> and face saving. As your flying by at 45 MPH I'm sure you would look at facial expressions, and hear the tone of voice over the roar of the engine, Oh, you're a Farang, of course you would as Farang never ever walk on by when someone is in distress...... Farangs are heroes. I I am farang, married to a thai I have first aid first class ,and I would stop to help any one in distress , but my wife and her family have warned me I would get a big problem if I stop to help, But I would still help , many farangs are afraid of getting trouble if they stop to help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art vandelay Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 not one but several people lacking any basic humanity. very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Let me put it simply, here on Thai Visa Thais are always wrong, Farangs are always right, accidents that happen in western countries are, well, accidents,. But, when they happen in Thailand they are a slant on the whole population, if a Thai guy has an accident in Koh Samui, my wife is according to ThaiVisa, stupid 1000 Kms away, simply because she is Thai. I think you should climb down off your cross. If this had happened in any country, most of us would have the same reaction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seabass69 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 These people wouldn't even bother holding the door open for an old lady entering 7 Eleven. Why would anyone expect them to save someone from drowning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellred Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 This story reminds me of that 2 year old who was run over by 2 vehicles and then ignored by around 30 people as she lay in the road dying. Those who came up with the fine are as bad as those who ignored them IMO. For those who have forgotten http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Wang_Yue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmayes Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Buisiness as usual:"Blame the victim". Now that is true Thainess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude123 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 wow, so a thai life is only worth 1000 baht, I guess life is cheap here. It still amazes me that people could just ignore two kids drowing, says a lot for thainess. Like my Thai wife reminds me all the time, life is cheap in Thailand. Just from what I read on a general basis, Thai's don't seem to value life much at all when it comes to others. I'm sure they value their own though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 me me me me me me me me me society 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbanda Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) From an Internet Site: What Happens When Drowning Somebody who is drowning will likely not be able to call out for help. The primary function of the respiratory system is to breath—speech is secondary. If you can’t breath, your instincts will focus all your body’s resources on breathing—making speech impossible. People who are drowning tend to bob up and down, with their head coming in and out of the water. It may look like they are catching a quick breath, but usually there isn’t enough time to fully inhale and exhale. If you are drowning, your instincts take over and you can’t wave for help. Instead you will extend your arms out laterally and try to push your head up out of the water. Drowning people are unable to make voluntary movements with their hand to do things like wave for help, swim towards safety, or reach for rescue equipment. While drowning, a person’s body will usually stay upright and he or she will not be able to kick. What To Look ForDrowning can happen surprisingly fast. A drowning person can usually only stay above the water 20 to 60 seconds. That is why it is so important to know what to look for and to act quickly. Edited April 26, 2014 by umbanda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 The people filming the boys when they drown are much worse than the boat owners. Your comment reminds of a frightening bit of dark humour that a friend of mine used to like telling : Q - What's the mark of a true reporter ? A - If his own beloved mother is suddenly on fire he jumps up and shouts 'don't move,Ma! I'll go get my camera!'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliot Rosewater Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What a parody of Thai Justice. And does yor country have a good samaritan law? Probably not; France is the only country I know of that does Nope, these people would not be prosecuted in your country either so stop whining Sent from my GT-I9300T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsch22 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 The boatmen would have known the water was rough that day, yes? From the video it appears they aren't even LOOKING at the boys. They ought to use this horrible incident as a reason to change the laws. The penalty is an insult. "... change the laws". Is it actually the case that under Thai law I have an obligation (punishable as a crime in default) to go to the aid of a person, young or old, who has put himself in danger and I have not caused or contributed to his peril? Presumably it must be, or else these boatmen should not have been fined. Can anybody point me to the Article of the Thai Criminal Code where this provision can be found? Before we talk about changing laws, we need to know precisely what is the existing law that reputedly needs changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsch22 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 The boatmen would have known the water was rough that day, yes? From the video it appears they aren't even LOOKING at the boys. They ought to use this horrible incident as a reason to change the laws. The penalty is an insult. "... change the laws". Is it actually the case that under Thai law I have an obligation (punishable as a crime in default) to go to the aid of a person, young or old, who has put himself in danger and I have not caused or contributed to his peril? Presumably it must be, or else these boatmen should not have been fined. Can anybody point me to the Article of the Thai Criminal Code where this provision can be found? Before we talk about changing laws, we need to know precisely what is the existing law that reputedly needs changing. Answering my own question - found it: Section 374. Maximum penalties 1 month's imprisonment and/or 1,000 baht fine. So if heroism is obligatory and not voluntary, is it heroism at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyflower Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 To Eliot Rosewater And France doesn't prosecute many either, even if they have the" non assistance to a person in danger law". I have already posted about the woman who was agressed in the Paris metro and none of 38 people came to her aid, nor punched the Urgency buttons that abound. They don't risk anything much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 If they had called for help on several occasions before then they should have been experts at saving kids lives in the water and for ignoring the kids this time they should get prison for at least a year for being responsible for the kid’s deaths by not offering assistance disgraceful behaviour and as for 1000 baht fine is just a laughable punishment , that is one of the big downsides to Thailand they have no deterrent punishment for any criminal acts here, if you kill 9 people with a car 48hrs community service, stab a tourist and get a whopping 500 baht fine, leave children to drown next to your boat 1000 Baht fine. So harsh what a deterrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Sometimes I pity the Thais. This is the best they can do?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It has been said on this forum many times, that it's best not to stop in case you get the blame. Now the same people who take advice from their Thai wives to be cowards, not to stop and help someone, are the very same people castigating the boatmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Swimming in any river is dangerous,i nearly got swept away down the Snowy river in Australia one time,plus all sorts of unseen hazards such as dead trees under the surface,still a sad story,a large amount of thai people cannot swim,or sadly know how to stay afloat and unfortunatley the country with all the other problems i doubt that swimming will be taught any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Accident? Deliberately not slowing down to at least HAVE A LOOK to see if the boys were really in trouble or not was no accident. Yeah the real crime was they didnt get photos on their phones to put on facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elzach Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 So cheap a "Thai slumdog's life" ! It's not Mumbai, but one Thai less or more they don't care cuz it has enough people as for road accidents. Nobody cares ! Some truth to that, yes: Life is extremely cheap inside that circle, so it's not just Thailand. In China, for example, they would not even need the crying wolf excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 1000 bt fine there really is a crackdown, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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