Junta brings back Pornthip as director of CIFS

[beautifulthailand99]

Loved her for her work during the Tsunami - but after defending the $20 golf ball detectors then all her credibility dissolved away. Bad move - she was on a platform with Suthep as well so payback time I guess.

[Thai at Heart]

Loved her for her work during the Tsunami - but after defending the $20 golf ball detectors then all her credibility dissolved away. Bad move - she was on a platform with Suthep as well so payback time I guess.

Her efforts in the tsunami were of exremeley dubious benefit.

[jayboy]

And so it begins.

[h90]

She sounds like a gun for hire, for hard cases. Don't know of how her track record is as an expert witness, but from what I have been reading about the Thai Judicial system, no jury, no record taking except by the judge, she may be favoured by certian elite factions?

Undoubtable a very intelligent person.

Don't know what you mean

Of course she also investigated David (KungFu, Kill Bill) Carradine's death as a result of auto-eroticism, which brought up these classic comments (not by Pornthip, I hasten to add)

(http://www.kcrg.com/news/entertainment/47066587.html)

"An initial autopsy report revealed Carradine died from a sudden lack of oxygen and his body showed no signs of struggle, a hospital worker who had read the report told AFP on condition of anonymity.

He died from acute lack of air, the worker said,"

and from the Police Commander;

"Under these circumstances we cannot be sure that he committed suicide but he may have died from masturbation, he said."

Who needs Forensic Scientists?

They told me that masturbating is bad, but I didn't know that you can actually die from it.....

[h90]

Here is where she went down in flames....So to me , she has no credibility whatsoever...

Hopefully not too many soldiers died because of her support of a piece of crap..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT200

Pornthip Rojanasunand, Director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, also defended the use of the GT200 devices, claiming that they were effective when searching for bombs and even nails under water. She said: "I do not feel embarrassed if the bomb detector is proven ineffective. Personally, I have never handled the device myself. But my people have used it and it is accurate every time. Long long time ago, people believed that the Earth is flat and anyone who said otherwise faced execution. Things which are not visible does not necessarily mean they do not exist. The devices are there and no one has the right to ban their use. I will continue to use it."^[58]

"Personally, I have never handled the device myself."

"I will continue to use it."

Lost in translation????

[EyesWideOpen]

Here is where she went down in flames....So to me , she has no credibility whatsoever...

Hopefully not too many soldiers died because of her support of a piece of crap..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT200

Pornthip Rojanasunand, Director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, also defended the use of the GT200 devices, claiming that they were effective when searching for bombs and even nails under water. She said: "I do not feel embarrassed if the bomb detector is proven ineffective. Personally, I have never handled the device myself. But my people have used it and it is accurate every time. Long long time ago, people believed that the Earth is flat and anyone who said otherwise faced execution. Things which are not visible does not necessarily mean they do not exist. The devices are there and no one has the right to ban their use. I will continue to use it."^[58]

"Personally, I have never handled the device myself."

"I will continue to use it."

Lost in translation????

Yeah that is funny. Did she or did she not use it?

Guess she also makes a strong argument for the existence of ghosts and leprechauns.

"Things which are not visible does not necessarily mean they do not exist."

[tingtongteesood]

"She spoke many times at rallies in support of the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee this year."

Reward time?

NO, she just so happens to be the best qualified person for the job despite the hatred from yourself and the rest of the red sheeple because she refused to back your beloved criminals.

[EyesWideOpen]

Well the Thai police truly hate her, as she would keep finding out who actual murders

were, much to the chagrin of the police who were trying to sweep matters under the

rug. So that is a point in her favor, too bad about the GT 200 endorsement.....

[rubl]

And so it begins.

Pray, elaborate

[tonbridgebrit]

Looks like a 1980s Greenham Common dyke.

Only thing different is that she is not chained to a fence.

Those '1980s Greenham Common dykes'. How many of them were Chinese ??

[jayjayjayjay]

This lady is a great person and a hero from the tsunami crisis! If you don't know about her you can find a lot about her if you try to. If you make fun of her... Get a life!!

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This lady is all about self promotion. She does work, but there are thousand of hard working public servants that do not wave the popularity flag she does. Leave a bad taste in my mouth, I am surprised you are so easily fooled. The Amry are wise, and are playing as much a popularity game as any of the politician parties.. Thailand needs urgently are decent Constitution and elections asap.

I for one say ChaiYo NOT to this lady, but the silent thousands.

[jaapfries]

This lady is a great person and a hero from the tsunami crisis! If you don't know about her you can find a lot about her if you try to. If you make fun of her... Get a life!!

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@BKKDEN: You're so right; I hazard a guess that most people here simply look at the 'cover' and don't know 'the book'. Khun Pornthip is a bastion of integrity and the reason why the BIB do not like her, is because this girl can NIT be bought, simple as that ! ! !

When I first read this head-line; my mind shouted "Hallelujah ! ! ! !"

[Chris Lawrence]

She sounds like a gun for hire, for hard cases. Don't know of how her track record is as an expert witness, but from what I have been reading about the Thai Judicial system, no jury, no record taking except by the judge, she may be favoured by certian elite factions?

Undoubtable a very intelligent person.

Don't know what you mean

Of course she also investigated David (KungFu, Kill Bill) Carradine's death as a result of auto-eroticism, which brought up these classic comments (not by Pornthip, I hasten to add)

(http://www.kcrg.com/news/entertainment/47066587.html)

"An initial autopsy report revealed Carradine died from a sudden lack of oxygen and his body showed no signs of struggle, a hospital worker who had read the report told AFP on condition of anonymity.

He died from acute lack of air, the worker said,"

and from the Police Commander;

"Under these circumstances we cannot be sure that he committed suicide but he may have died from masturbation, he said."

Who needs Forensic Scientists?

They told me that masturbating is bad, but I didn't know that you can actually die from it.....

Michael Hutchins died from it

[Artisi]

She sounds like a gun for hire, for hard cases. Don't know of how her track record is as an expert witness, but from what I have been reading about the Thai Judicial system, no jury, no record taking except by the judge, she may be favoured by certian elite factions?

Undoubtable a very intelligent person.

Don't know what you mean

Of course she also investigated David (KungFu, Kill Bill) Carradine's death as a result of auto-eroticism, which brought up these classic comments (not by Pornthip, I hasten to add)

(http://www.kcrg.com/news/entertainment/47066587.html)

"An initial autopsy report revealed Carradine died from a sudden lack of oxygen and his body showed no signs of struggle, a hospital worker who had read the report told AFP on condition of anonymity.

He died from acute lack of air, the worker said,"

and from the Police Commander;

"Under these circumstances we cannot be sure that he committed suicide but he may have died from masturbation, he said."

Who needs Forensic Scientists?

They told me that masturbating is bad, but I didn't know that you can actually die from it.....

With a strangulation cord around your neck anything is possible.

[jayboy]

And so it begins.

Pray, elaborate

The reinstatement of an incompetent charletan speaks for itself.But there is a more general issue as George Orwell observed in Animal Farm after the animals under the leadership of pigs had overthrown the rule of man.

“No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

[rubl]

And so it begins.

Pray, elaborate

The reinstatement of an incompetent charletan speaks for itself.But there is a more general issue as George Orwell observed in Animal Farm after the animals under the leadership of pigs had overthrown the rule of man.

“No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

The more general issue seems why we need reforms.

PS seeing what others say in the "Ms. Yingluck makes merit for birthday", may I scold you for being so typically male in your description "incompetent charletan"? Mind you, I never really liked her hairstyle myself

[EyesWideOpen]

This lady is a great person and a hero from the tsunami crisis! If you don't know about her you can find a lot about her if you try to. If you make fun of her... Get a life!!

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@BKKDEN: You're so right; I hazard a guess that most people here simply look at the 'cover' and don't know 'the book'. Khun Pornthip is a bastion of integrity and the reason why the BIB do not like her, is because this girl can NIT be bought, simple as that ! ! !

When I first read this head-line; my mind shouted "Hallelujah ! ! ! !"

Save your hallelujahs for when god shows up. She can be bought , and she was bought. Might be a good idea for you to read the news sometimes before commenting. When the military was catching heat over their purchase of these toys, she was trotted out like a trick pony to say what a wonderful device it was...... Which of course made her a laughing stock of everyone who knew what was going on.

[jayboy]

And so it begins.

Pray, elaborate

The reinstatement of an incompetent charletan speaks for itself.But there is a more general issue as George Orwell observed in Animal Farm after the animals under the leadership of pigs had overthrown the rule of man.

“No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

The more general issue seems why we need reforms.

PS seeing what others say in the "Ms. Yingluck makes merit for birthday", may I scold you for being so typically male in your description "incompetent charletan"? Mind you, I never really liked her hairstyle myself

You seem to be under the impression that thaere is some kind of gender bias in the expression "incompetent charletan".There isn't.

The Orwell quotation is apposite for those that have the wit to understand.

[Thailand]

"She spoke many times at rallies in support of the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee this year."

Reward time?

NO, she just so happens to be the best qualified person for the job despite the hatred from yourself and the rest of the red sheeple because she refused to back your beloved criminals.

What are you talking about. Why would I hate her, I don't think I hate anybody. Check her record with the a tsunami and the bomb detectors etc.

If she is the best for the job I hate to think what the others must be like.

And the favours will continue to be handed out for those that helped to achieve the objectives that now see the country under military rule.

It's the way of the world no matter which country,colour, creed etc. those that help to achieve the right objectives get rewarded whether it be election success, corporate success, successful coups, removal of unwanted persons from office, etc etc,you name it the rewards will be distributed. That's what happens in the world that I live in anyway

[rubl]

The reinstatement of an incompetent charletan speaks for itself.But there is a more general issue as George Orwell observed in Animal Farm after the animals under the leadership of pigs had overthrown the rule of man.

“No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

The more general issue seems why we need reforms.

PS seeing what others say in the "Ms. Yingluck makes merit for birthday", may I scold you for being so typically male in your description "incompetent charletan"? Mind you, I never really liked her hairstyle myself

You seem to be under the impression that thaere is some kind of gender bias in the expression "incompetent charletan".There isn't.

The Orwell quotation is apposite for those that have the wit to understand.

Ah, so only an 'unbiased' character assassination and defamation. That makes it right then, now doesn't it?

As for the Orwellian quote, in this case I would tend to call it 'witless' as in not nothing what else nasty to say about the NCPO while still conforming to forum rules a.o.

I must admit though that as far as I'm concerned the GP200 case might show Ms. Pornthip has risen above her level of competence or maybe she shouldn't have been asked in the first place. Anyway with her background the part " improving the forensic-science sector" seems to apply. The "addressing problems in southern border provinces" seems relevant only as far as 'forensic' issues and "DNA of insurgents" are concerned.

I wonder who else there might be in Thailand with sufficient background to head the Central Institute of Forensic Science (CIFS). It is not clear to me why Lt-Colonel Anek Yomchinda is now moved, just being a Police Lt.-Colonel (I think) is insufficient reason..

[EBlair48]

"She spoke many times at rallies in support of the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee this year."

Reward time?

Yeah, big time. Seems the little fantasy on how change was going to happen has just been subverted. Political cronyism as ever..

http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1403266283&section=11&typecate=05

Ms. [sic] Pornthip's return to the helm of the forensic science institute did not come as a surprise to many. Ms. Pornthip was a staunch supporter of the political faction that protested against the previous government and widely celebrated the military's coup d'etat on 22 May.

After seizing control of the country's government, the NCPO has removed many top officials known for their affiliation with former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and replaced them with those who are sympathetic to the coup....

But Ms.[sic] Pornthip, who was the head of the CIFS at the time, defended the effectiveness of the device. She admitted that the GT200 has failed scientific tests, but insisted that it did not matter because the devices themselves not operate on any scientific principle.

“GT200 is not scientific either, it depends on the operators. The officials of the CIFS have used it with great efficiency,” Ms. Pornthip was quoted as saying in February 2010.

[EBlair48]

Ah, so only an 'unbiased' character assassination and defamation. That makes it right then, now doesn't it?

As for the Orwellian quote, in this case I would tend to call it 'witless' as in not nothing what else nasty to say about the NCPO while still conforming to forum rules a.o.

I must admit though that as far as I'm concerned the GP200 case might show Ms. Pornthip has risen above her level of competence or maybe she shouldn't have been asked in the first place. Anyway with her background the part " improving the forensic-science sector" seems to apply. The "addressing problems in southern border provinces" seems relevant only as far as 'forensic' issues and "DNA of insurgents" are concerned.

I wonder who else there might be in Thailand with sufficient background to head the Central Institute of Forensic Science (CIFS). It is not clear to me why Lt-Colonel Anek Yomchinda is now moved, just being a Police Lt.-Colonel (I think) is insufficient reason..

And I'm betting this rule is all about subverting truth. Censorship always is.

Anek was aligned with the former govt, that makes him incompetent under the new fantasy.

[EBlair48]

And so it begins.

Pray, elaborate

1983

[rubl]

Ah, so only an 'unbiased' character assassination and defamation. That makes it right then, now doesn't it?

As for the Orwellian quote, in this case I would tend to call it 'witless' as in not nothing what else nasty to say about the NCPO while still conforming to forum rules a.o.

I must admit though that as far as I'm concerned the GP200 case might show Ms. Pornthip has risen above her level of competence or maybe she shouldn't have been asked in the first place. Anyway with her background the part " improving the forensic-science sector" seems to apply. The "addressing problems in southern border provinces" seems relevant only as far as 'forensic' issues and "DNA of insurgents" are concerned.

I wonder who else there might be in Thailand with sufficient background to head the Central Institute of Forensic Science (CIFS). It is not clear to me why Lt-Colonel Anek Yomchinda is now moved, just being a Police Lt.-Colonel (I think) is insufficient reason..

And I'm betting this rule is all about subverting truth. Censorship always is.

Anek was aligned with the former govt, that makes him incompetent under the new fantasy.

Just to be sure, I was referring to 'forum' rules. I don't think those are set to 'subvert the truth'.

BTW Ms. Pornthip was transferred May 2013 as her four-year term as CIFS director (which had already been extended for one year) had come to an end. She was appointed Inspector-General for the Ministry of Justice and Advisor of the Committee for implementation of policies and strategies for solving problems in the Southern Border Provinces.

[EBlair48]

Ah, so only an 'unbiased' character assassination and defamation. That makes it right then, now doesn't it?

As for the Orwellian quote, in this case I would tend to call it 'witless' as in not nothing what else nasty to say about the NCPO while still conforming to forum rules a.o.

I must admit though that as far as I'm concerned the GP200 case might show Ms. Pornthip has risen above her level of competence or maybe she shouldn't have been asked in the first place. Anyway with her background the part " improving the forensic-science sector" seems to apply. The "addressing problems in southern border provinces" seems relevant only as far as 'forensic' issues and "DNA of insurgents" are concerned.

I wonder who else there might be in Thailand with sufficient background to head the Central Institute of Forensic Science (CIFS). It is not clear to me why Lt-Colonel Anek Yomchinda is now moved, just being a Police Lt.-Colonel (I think) is insufficient reason..

And I'm betting this rule is all about subverting truth. Censorship always is.

Anek was aligned with the former govt, that makes him incompetent under the new fantasy.

Just to be sure, I was referring to 'forum' rules. I don't think those are set to 'subvert the truth'.

BTW Ms. Pornthip was transferred May 2013 as her four-year term as CIFS director (which had already been extended for one year) had come to an end. She was appointed Inspector-General for the Ministry of Justice and Advisor of the Committee for implementation of policies and strategies for solving problems in the Southern Border Provinces.

And I was referring to the forum rules having to abide by new laws that are.

( reminds me to post the link about Chaturon now being threatened by computer crimes act as he emailed the FCCT speech out )

So seems Yingluk govt wasn't playing politics in 2013 with that transfer.

btw doesn't Ms. Pornthip hold a doctorate and entitled to be referred to as Dr.?

Edited June 22, 2014 by EBlair48

[rubl]

Ah, so only an 'unbiased' character assassination and defamation. That makes it right then, now doesn't it?

As for the Orwellian quote, in this case I would tend to call it 'witless' as in not nothing what else nasty to say about the NCPO while still conforming to forum rules a.o.

I must admit though that as far as I'm concerned the GP200 case might show Ms. Pornthip has risen above her level of competence or maybe she shouldn't have been asked in the first place. Anyway with her background the part " improving the forensic-science sector" seems to apply. The "addressing problems in southern border provinces" seems relevant only as far as 'forensic' issues and "DNA of insurgents" are concerned.

I wonder who else there might be in Thailand with sufficient background to head the Central Institute of Forensic Science (CIFS). It is not clear to me why Lt-Colonel Anek Yomchinda is now moved, just being a Police Lt.-Colonel (I think) is insufficient reason..

And I'm betting this rule is all about subverting truth. Censorship always is.

Anek was aligned with the former govt, that makes him incompetent under the new fantasy.

Just to be sure, I was referring to 'forum' rules. I don't think those are set to 'subvert the truth'.

BTW Ms. Pornthip was transferred May 2013 as her four-year term as CIFS director (which had already been extended for one year) had come to an end. She was appointed Inspector-General for the Ministry of Justice and Advisor of the Committee for implementation of policies and strategies for solving problems in the Southern Border Provinces.

And I was referring to the forum rules having to abide by new laws that are.

( reminds me to post the link about Chaturon now being threatened by computer crimes act as he emailed the FCCT speech out )

So seems Yingluk govt wasn't playing politics in 2013 with that transfer.

btw doesn't Ms. Pornthip hold a doctorate and entitled to be referred to as Dr.?

The Martial Law doesn't subvert the truth, only makes it more difficult to publish information deemed against the M.L. Of course, news sites outside Thailand may still publish anything they like, but such sites might be blocked, even under the Computer Criminal Act.

The link on k. Chaturon please post in the appropriate topic, but not here.

The politics in 2013 may be involved in the way khunying Pornthip was 'transferred', not the transfer perse.

As for "Dr.", maybe Pornthip only holds a B.A. ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornthip_Rojanasunand