webfact Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 US Ambassador says US-Thai relations remain warmBy Digital ContentBANGKOK, July 11 -- US ambassador to Thailand Kristie A Kenney emphasized to Air Chief Marshal Prajin Juntong, deputy leader of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) and air force chief, that relations between the United States and its close ally Thailand remain strong.According to Air Marshal Monthon Satchukorn, Royal Thai Air Force spokesman, Ms Kenny met with ACM Prajin, who is overseeing economic matters, on Thursday at Royal Thai Air Force headquarters.High-ranking RTAF and Foreign Affairs Ministry officials also attended the meeting.Ms Kenny was quoted as telling ACM Prajin that both countries have enjoyed good relations for a long time while many major American firms have invested in the kingdom.She suggested that amending certain trade and investment laws would be key to stimulating Thailand’s economic growth.Several other issues discussed included how to reduce human trafficking and forced labour problems in Thailand. Ms Kenny told ACM Prajin that the US understood the problem as Thailand happened to be a transit point of such problems.Accusing Thailand of continued human trafficking and forced labour problems, Washington on June 20 downgraded Thailand to “Tier 3” in its annual Trafficking in Persons report.The US has accused the kingdom of allowing human trafficking, slavery and human rights abuses.The US held Thailand on the Tier 2 warning list for four consecutive years and advised the Thai government to take action before implementing the downgrade.During their conversation, ACM Prajin briefed Ms Kenny on why the military decided to take over the country on May 22 and further explained NCPO chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha's intention to achieve full democracy for Thailand within next year, said Air Marshal Monthol. (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2014-07-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Now international alarm must really be growing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zydeco Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Edited July 11, 2014 by zydeco 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmj Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Do you really believe this bo11ocks, Sounds like you only get fox news on your tv Edited July 11, 2014 by kmj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Not warm just tepid, as winter approaches then the ice is not far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Warm or just lukes warm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Governments have trading partners, alliances, etc. I don't think 'friends' is an official category. Maybe you should stick to Facebook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Governments have trading partners, alliances, etc. I don't think 'friends' is an official category. Maybe you should stick to Facebook. Bit too sophisticated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiamaster Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Do you really believe this bo11ocks, Sounds like you only get fox news on your tv Ever heard of SARCASM ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eurojomtien Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 'She suggested that amending certain trade and investment laws would be key to stimulating Thailand’s economic growth.' Is that diplomatic lingo for : let us make more money in your country and we'll stop pointing the moral finger... ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmj Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them.Do you really believe this bo11ocks, Sounds like you only get fox news on your tv Ever heard of SARCASM ?? Not your comment so who rattled your cage, my comment was to the poster not his bitch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Or in the colloquial speak..Thai gets head from farang - no baht involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lostsoul49 Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Do you really believe this bo11ocks, Sounds like you only get fox news on your tv Why do you say that? Everything he has said is 100% true, the US is indeed losing friends fast and making enemies even faster. You won't find the real news on what is happening outside of the US from 'inside' the US and that especially includes FOX. This has already been signed by 133 nations and there are only 197 nations on the planet... Many more will follow. Read on and do a search on 'G77 New World Order' for much more info including a youtube rant by an American who typically twists this to suit US attitude about ANYTHING non-American. For The Record.... It was also signed by THAILAND. June 17, 2014. Bolivia. The American and European media are doing everything they can to black this news out. But it’s not going to stay a secret for long. As of this weekend, there’s a new New World Order on Earth and its enemy is the United States, the EU, the UN Security Council and the world’s shadow government led by the IMF and WTO. This new alliance of poor countries wouldn’t be much of a threat, except it includes two-thirds of the world’s nations including China and India. It’s a sad day for the American people when their government and state-sponsored news industry blacks out such an important news story. Americans actually have to rely on outlets like the Havana Times in Cuba, The Times of India, and United Nations press releases. There’s a reason this news is being censored across the West. And it’s only the latest global news story over the past two weeks on this subject blacked out from the American people. Read on to find out why. End of the New World Order When the richest and most powerful nations on Earth formed the G7, G8, G20 and the like, they united to combine their dominance over the remaining 175 countries that make up humanity. And for decades, the wealthiest 20 countries led by the US have gotten exponentially more wealthy at the expense of the poorest 175 nations, who in turn have gotten even poorer. That’s been the result of the West’s ‘New World Order’, led mainly by self-appointed global governments like the International Monetary Fund and the World Trade Organization. 133 of those 175 countries have had enough of the New World Order’s rigged global financial system based in New York and London. They’ve seen their economies destroyed by corrupt corporations and global governments that create a cycle of never-ending dependence and poverty. They’ve seen their nations’ vast resources stolen by multinational corporations. Their agriculture landscape has been poisoned. Their citizens bankrupted by the IMF and Wall Street. And their democratically elected leaders overthrown by foreign agents from countries like the US. They’ve had enough of the New World Order. And an alliance of 133 countries, two-thirds of the nations on Earth, signed an agreement this weekend to end the West’s New World Order and replace it with a fair, honest and legitimate World Order - one that lets everyone participate and benefit, not just the super rich. The Next World Order The organization is officially called the ‘Group of 77 and China’, but the alliance actually includes 133 nations. Showing just how much influence they have, their meeting this weekend in Bolivia was opened with a keynote speech by United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon. In the audience were over 30 heads of state from around the world and official representatives from over 100 more governments. Also illustrating the organization’s growing influence, China isn’t even a member of the G77, but insisted on participating anyway in a show of unity with the globe’s Next World Order. Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro participated, telling the gathered nations they had to unite to, “fight for fair and sustainable economic growth and for a new world economic order.” Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa went one step further, telling the gathered national leaders and representatives, “Only when we are united across Latin America and united around the world will we be able to make our voice heard and change an international order that is not just unfair, it is immoral.” A report from AFP on Yahoo News, about the only report found in Western media, describes how Cuban President Raul Castro also participated, but reserved his comments for a call to help their top ally Venezuela. Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia and a number of South American countries have insisted they are currently under attack by the United States and the CIA, who they insist are desperately trying to orchestrate coups to overthrow their democratically elected, pro-socialist governments the same way they are accused of doing in the Ukraine recently. Iran and the UN An announcement published by the United Nations this weekend touts UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon’s enthusiastic participation in the G77 meeting. It discusses how important this massive alliance is to the goals of the UN, particularly with regard to reversing the world’s growing economic inequality among nations. Moon and the UN are also sponsoring a separate but related meeting of nations in September to draft new climate resolutions to be enacted in 2015. The announcement describes a private meeting between the UN Secretary General and Iran’s Vice President, ‘On the margins of today's summit, Mr. Ban met with the First Vice President of Iran, Eshaq Jahangiri, to discuss development issues, as well as the potential role that Iran could play in restoring stability in Iraq and Syria. The Secretary-General added that he looked forward to Iran's positive involvement on climate change and said he very much hoped that President Hassan Rouhani would attend the climate summit this September.’ The report also says the two leaders discussed Iran’s nuclear ambitions and the coming July deadline for compliance with past mandates. Threats of America’s “second Vietnam” Many of the government leaders in attendance took the opportunity to strike a blow against what they consider to be the biggest enemy of world peace, democracy and economic freedom - the United States. One leader even went as far as calling out President Obama by name and threatening the United States with a second Vietnam. As reported by the Times of India, the G77 conference’s host this weekend - Bolivian President Evo Morales - threatened the United States and the American President telling the gathered heads of state, “If Mr. Obama keeps assailing the people of Venezuela, I am convinced that, faced with provocation and aggression, Venezuela and Latin America will be a second Vietnam for the United States. Let us defend democracy, natural resources, our sovereignty and our dignity.” Cuba’s President Raul Castro was possibly the most pointed and focused in his remarks regarding the agenda of the participating countries. As reported by the Havana Times, Castro told the alliance of 133 nations, “It is necessary to demand a new international financial and monetary order and fair commercial conditions for producers and importers from the guardians of capital, centered in the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, and from the defenders of neoliberalism grouped in the World Trade Organization, which are attempting to divide us. Only unity will allow us to make our ample majority prevail.” UN Civil War - dissolving the UN Security Council One of the more ambitious goals of the G77 and its 133 participating countries is the elimination of the United Nations Security Council. World leaders insist it is little more than a five-nation tyranny over the full UN body. With five permanent members of the UN Security Council having veto power over the rest, UN policies and actions have been dictated by those five countries - US, UK, Russia, France and China. Members of the G77 want the Security Council eliminated so the UN can go back to being a purely democratic body. The Cuban leader went on to describe a global economic system run by American hypocrisy and financial corruption, “The principles of International Law and the postulates of the New International Economic Order are brazenly violated, concepts that attempt to legalize meddling are imposed, force is used and threats of force are made with impunity, the media are used to promote division.” Dominoes beginning to fall This is just the latest organized attack on a global financial system rigged by corrupt governments and the multinational corporations that control them. Just last month, Russia and China signed a long term trade alliance that represents the first major crack in the US Dollar bubble. The two countries agreed to stop using US Dollars in their transactions and instead use their own two currencies. The two largest banks from both countries immediately announced they would be dumping the US Dollar as well. On top of that, the world’s ‘BRIC’ countries - Brazil, Russia, India and China - have publicly declared their goal of replacing the corrupted US Dollar with some other global default currency. Now that Russia and China have finally taken actual steps to do that, the remaining two-thirds of the world will most likely begin making preparations to stop using the US Dollar as well. It was only this weekend that 133 of them pledged to do just that. The scary part for Americans is that both Washington and Wall Street have promised this would never happen, because if it did, it would destroy the US economic system and possibly the US itself. Read the Whiteout Press article, ‘Russia-China Deals move US Dollar closer to Collapse’ for more information. To view a full list of the 133 nations that make up the G77, visit the Group of 77 website. Courtesy of Whiteout Press EDIT! Thought I would add this, as it is worth a laugh to see the typical US response and how the article is twisted to be anti Islamic, communist etc etc etc...... This guy should work for the US State Department. Edited July 11, 2014 by lostsoul49 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The US could be seeing the Thai Chinese relations as getting a little close : China expresses continued support for ThailandBANGKOK, 11 July 2014 (NNT) – The Chinese government has affirmed that China would maintain cooperation and support for Thailand regardless of the country’s political situation. Full story: http://www.thaivisa....t-for-thailand/ Thai FM: China understands Thai situation, supports bilateral investment, invites Gen Prem to visit to mark 40th anniversary of diplomatic ties /MCOT Oh Yes and I have been told the next printing of US hundred dollar bills will be in a different form to make them more convenient to use : 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attento Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Governments have trading partners, alliances, etc. I don't think 'friends' is an official category. Maybe you should stick to Facebook. . Politicians do Politics. And some of them even find that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The US could be seeing the Thai Chinese relations as getting a little close : China expresses continued support for Thailand BANGKOK, 11 July 2014 (NNT) – The Chinese government has affirmed that China would maintain cooperation and support for Thailand regardless of the country’s political situation. Full story: http://www.thaivisa....t-for-thailand/ Thai FM: China understands Thai situation, supports bilateral investment, invites Gen Prem to visit to mark 40th anniversary of diplomatic ties /MCOT Oh Yes and I have been told the next printing of US hundred dollar bills will be in a different form to make them more convenient to use : 81yL5NTvSPL._SL1500_.jpg When you're a hammer everything looks like a nail. So, it stands to reason that when you're an ass/arse everything looks like toilet paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Do you really believe this bo11ocks, Sounds like you only get fox news on your tv As for Fox News, even a broken clock is correct twice a day. (BTW, I don't watch FN) So, to my point, which statement by zydeco do you take issue with. You should point them out instead of 'blanket' condemnation. You do not further the discussion that way. Sounds like you are an Obama lover. His inexperienced foreign policy has been a disaster for the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Well the comrade Erika (Merkels name when she was in the STASI) just pretend to be angry....a bit of a show for the population. But the real problem is that the populations in Western Europe gets very anti-america. Now the same as it was under Bush. That of course is a big risk for the USA because on any next vote somewhere a populist with some Anti-USA propaganda could win. To make all of the planet angry isn't a good idea....So better be friendly to Thailand.....In Saudi Arabia there aren't any problems with democracy as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkstooge Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Jesus Zydeco this one borders on Uncle Sam bigotry from the last century. Lets have a look at what you said: * Russia You are probably right there but who the hell wants to cosy up to Putin ( with the exception of Ukranian separatists ) * China When have things ever been good between USA and China? ( apart from a brief meeting between Mao, Nixon and Kissinger in the early 70s ) * Iran Things are a lot lot better now that Mamuhad Adineajad [sic] and George W Bush aren't around any more. * India What's up there? Have I missed something! * Afghanistan What did you expect? * Pakistan It's been better granted but with all those drone attacks it's not a surprise really is it? * Saudis + Gulf states with the exception of the Saudi Govt's concern over the (very slow moving) thaw with Iran Which of these Govts have been openly hostile to The USA? * North Africa apart from the attack on the embassy in Tripoli a few years back What info do you know which suggests the whole of North Africa is enemies with America? * France This one pisses me off and is well basically a lie ( I'm a Brit who happens to like the French) * Anti-Gringo sentiment South of the Rio grande Christ you make Cormac Macarthy's Blood Meridian characters look like Henry Fonda ( Great Book ) * Germany it has been better but once this CIA double agent /Tapping Merkels phone BS blows over It'll soon be forgotten. * Your last point about the mending a few splinters in a bridge with the Thai Generals is relevant but inspite of a few garbage comments from Kerry I never thought the bridge between America and Thailand had been torched to the ground anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them.Do you really believe this bo11ocks, Sounds like you only get fox news on your tv Ever heard of SARCASM ?? Not your comment so who rattled your cage, my comment was to the poster not his bitch... I'm noticing a lot of posters like you, kmj. You all have long-standing accounts, very few posts, and just now you decide to start posting, all hot and heavy. Where have you been all this time and why is this the topic to bring you out of your long hibernation? BTW, rude, much? And before you say it, I'm nobody's bitch but maybe I'll make you mine. Edited July 11, 2014 by rametindallas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostsoul49 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Jesus Zydeco this one borders on Uncle Sam bigotry from the last century. Lets have a look at what you said: * Russia You are probably right there but who the hell wants to cosy up to Putin ( with the exception of Ukranian separatists ) * China When have things ever been good between USA and China? ( apart from a brief meeting between Mao, Nixon and Kissinger in the early 70s ) * Iran Things are a lot lot better now that Mamuhad Adineajad [sic] and George W Bush aren't around any more. * India What's up there? Have I missed something! * Afghanistan What did you expect? * Pakistan It's been better granted but with all those drone attacks it's not a surprise really is it? * Saudis + Gulf states with the exception of the Saudi Govt's concern over the (very slow moving) thaw with Iran Which of these Govts have been openly hostile to The USA? * North Africa apart from the attack on the embassy in Tripoli a few years back What info do you know which suggests the whole of North Africa is enemies with America? * France This one pisses me off and is well basically a lie ( I'm a Brit who happens to like the French) * Anti-Gringo sentiment South of the Rio grande Christ you make Cormac Macarthy's Blood Meridian characters look like Henry Fonda ( Great Book ) * Germany it has been better but once this CIA double agent /Tapping Merkels phone BS blows over It'll soon be forgotten. * Your last point about the mending a few splinters in a bridge with the Thai Generals is relevant but inspite of a few garbage comments from Kerry I never thought the bridge between America and Thailand had been torc hed to the ground anyway. Wow!!! Talk about head up the pooper. But just for you.... everyone in the world loves the USA and all its dominence. No problems with the future or the USD or the economy or the fact that every man, woman and child in the US owes the rest of the world half a million USD thanks to your excessive printing of worthless bills. The truth is.... enough of the world are sick and tired of the US and over the next 2 years I guarantee you we will be looking at a completely different global landscape both politically and economically. Read my post before this one... This is not BS, it is happening now. Also the link at the botom that shows this article is also very interesting. As a matter of fact I will paste it here just for you. http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/2014/q2/russia-china-deals-move-us-dollar-closer-collapse/ It's up to you if you want to read it or not, or if you want to keep your head buried where the sun don't shine.... But some good advice if you have lots of money sat in the bank in USD..... Move it into Yuan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkstooge Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Jesus Zydeco this one borders on Uncle Sam bigotry from the last century. Lets have a look at what you said: * Russia You are probably right there but who the hell wants to cosy up to Putin ( with the exception of Ukranian separatists ) * China When have things ever been good between USA and China? ( apart from a brief meeting between Mao, Nixon and Kissinger in the early 70s ) * Iran Things are a lot lot better now that Mamuhad Adineajad [sic] and George W Bush aren't around any more. * India What's up there? Have I missed something! * Afghanistan What did you expect? * Pakistan It's been better granted but with all those drone attacks it's not a surprise really is it? * Saudis + Gulf states with the exception of the Saudi Govt's concern over the (very slow moving) thaw with Iran Which of these Govts have been openly hostile to The USA? * North Africa apart from the attack on the embassy in Tripoli a few years back What info do you know which suggests the whole of North Africa is enemies with America? * France This one pisses me off and is well basically a lie ( I'm a Brit who happens to like the French) * Anti-Gringo sentiment South of the Rio grande Christ you make Cormac Macarthy's Blood Meridian characters look like Henry Fonda ( Great Book ) * Germany it has been better but once this CIA double agent /Tapping Merkels phone BS blows over It'll soon be forgotten. * Your last point about the mending a few splinters in a bridge with the Thai Generals is relevant but inspite of a few garbage comments from Kerry I never thought the bridge between America and Thailand had been torc hed to the ground anyway. Wow!!! Talk about head up the pooper. But just for you.... everyone in the world loves the USA and all its dominence. No problems with the future or the USD or the economy or the fact that every man, woman and child in the US owes the rest of the world half a million USD thanks to your excessive printing of worthless bills. The truth is.... enough of the world are sick and tired of the US and over the next 2 years I guarantee you we will be looking at a completely different global landscape both politically and economically. Read my post before this one... This is not BS, it is happening now. Also the link at the botom that shows this article is also very interesting. As a matter of fact I will paste it here just for you. http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/2014/q2/russia-china-deals-move-us-dollar-closer-collapse/ It's up to you if you want to read it or not, or if you want to keep your head buried where the sun don't shine.... But some good advice if you have lots of money sat in the bank in USD..... Move it into Yuan. Thanks for link it does look interesting and I admit to some generalization in my previous post although there was a lot of it in Zydeca's post but was there any call for toilet humour rudeness and the link only covers China_Russia not every other country mentioned in Zydeca's OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Just where is the US more popular today than it was, say, five, ten, or fifteen years ago? Ukraine? Philippines? Vietnam? Why does every American embassy or cultural center across the world look like a leftover entrenchment from the Maginot Line? Other countries don't seem to need these fortresses. I sure do hope Thai-American ties are still "warm." Otherwise, American expats might well find yet another door closing on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Governments have trading partners, alliances, etc. I don't think 'friends' is an official category. Maybe you should stick to Facebook. "Money" ... is always the "official" catagory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostsoul49 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. Jesus Zydeco this one borders on Uncle Sam bigotry from the last century. Lets have a look at what you said: * Russia You are probably right there but who the hell wants to cosy up to Putin ( with the exception of Ukranian separatists ) * China When have things ever been good between USA and China? ( apart from a brief meeting between Mao, Nixon and Kissinger in the early 70s ) * Iran Things are a lot lot better now that Mamuhad Adineajad [sic] and George W Bush aren't around any more. * India What's up there? Have I missed something! * Afghanistan What did you expect? * Pakistan It's been better granted but with all those drone attacks it's not a surprise really is it? * Saudis + Gulf states with the exception of the Saudi Govt's concern over the (very slow moving) thaw with Iran Which of these Govts have been openly hostile to The USA? * North Africa apart from the attack on the embassy in Tripoli a few years back What info do you know which suggests the whole of North Africa is enemies with America? * France This one pisses me off and is well basically a lie ( I'm a Brit who happens to like the French) * Anti-Gringo sentiment South of the Rio grande Christ you make Cormac Macarthy's Blood Meridian characters look like Henry Fonda ( Great Book ) * Germany it has been better but once this CIA double agent /Tapping Merkels phone BS blows over It'll soon be forgotten. * Your last point about the mending a few splinters in a bridge with the Thai Generals is relevant but inspite of a few garbage comments from Kerry I never thought the bridge between America and Thailand had been torc hed to the ground anyway. Wow!!! Talk about head up the pooper. But just for you.... everyone in the world loves the USA and all its dominence. No problems with the future or the USD or the economy or the fact that every man, woman and child in the US owes the rest of the world half a million USD thanks to your excessive printing of worthless bills. The truth is.... enough of the world are sick and tired of the US and over the next 2 years I guarantee you we will be looking at a completely different global landscape both politically and economically. Read my post before this one... This is not BS, it is happening now. Also the link at the botom that shows this article is also very interesting. As a matter of fact I will paste it here just for you. http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/2014/q2/russia-china-deals-move-us-dollar-closer-collapse/ It's up to you if you want to read it or not, or if you want to keep your head buried where the sun don't shine.... But some good advice if you have lots of money sat in the bank in USD..... Move it into Yuan. Thanks for link it does look interesting and I admit to some generalization in my previous post although there was a lot of it in Zydeca's post but was there any call for toilet humour rudeness and the link only covers China_Russia not every other country mentioned in Zydeca's OP. If you go to the previous post of mine, there is a link also at the bottom which lists all the countries that are getting together to pull the rug out from the US and the USD to end its global dominance and also mute their ability to have a foreign policy or ability to ever have any real influence over global affairs. The countries Zydeca named are all pretty much included in the list who have signed the agreement to gang up against the US and there is very little doubt that as far as dumping the USD they will all be on board. Russia were not present, but I think it goes without saying that they will be included. That really only leaves the EU and rest of the G20 nations and they are all going to sidle up where the economic power is, and that isn't going to be with the USA. The US will be bankrupted, they have NO money once their currency falls and a huge debt they can't pay and zero credit worthiness. The country will go into sheer meltdown. Fortunes will be lost and the world's largest mega-corps who have almost all of their capital in the USD will go down the tubes overnight. The only thing the US will have is weapons, massive civil unrest and a recession that will eclipse the 1930's. What left for them but to lash out with their military might???? with the whole world against them and nothing to offer... They will be friendless. Could be less than 2 years away... the next G133 meeting is in September, by then it could be more like a G150+ meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtsabai Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 She is talking about TPP, Trans Pacific Trade Agreement negotiated in complete secrecy along with a couple of others in the works and hidden from the public. Even the US Congress can't see the agreement and what tidbits they are allowed to see they are forbidden to speak or publish. A disaster 1000 times worse than NAFTA and and a corporate/plutocrat dream. The end of cheap medicine here and throughout Asia, the end of the internet, the end of environmental protections, the end of what is left of the working/middle class and the beginning of rule by multi-national corporations. Carrot and stick diplomacy and I would love to tell her and the Obama administration where to stick both the carrot and the stick, hope Thailand does. It will NOT help the average Thai in any way, shape or form. Keep GitMo open for those that really belong there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmj Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them.Do you really believe this bo11ocks, Sounds like you only get fox news on your tv Ever heard of SARCASM ?? Not your comment so who rattled your cage, my comment was to the poster not his bitch... I'm noticing a lot of posters like you, kmj. You all have long-standing accounts, very few posts, and just now you decide to start posting, all hot and heavy. Where have you been all this time and why is this the topic to bring you out of your long hibernation? BTW, rude, much? And before you say it, I'm nobody's bitch but maybe I'll make you mine. 55555 look how cute you just felt so bad you had to comment twice, and look you had to use my bitch analogy, whats up you can't think of something original, ahhh did I upset your friend, yes true normally I'm too busy working but sometimes idiots make me feel like commenting. Your one case in point... Edited July 11, 2014 by kmj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 All of a sudden the US needs all the friends it can get. Russia, China, and Iran working against them. India, Afghanistan, and Pakistan working the other side. Saudis, Gulf states, and North Africa fomenting anti-American mischief. The French being the French. And, now, even the tamed poodle Germans getting upset. Not to mention the usual chaos and anti-gringo sentiment being sold south of the Rio Grande. Maybe some of the remaining Euro states are friendly, but none of them seem to matter much on the world stage anyway. Better take your friends where you can find them. Now, the Thai generals don't look so bad after all. In fact, I would say that it just might be the Thai generals who hold most of the cards right now. US might need to ingratiate itself somehow with them. All good points. The fact is that the US has been engaging is really silly, churlish, childish, petulant, non-visionary foreign policy for way too long. They always seem to be on the wrong side of the fence. Just look at what has been accomplished in both Iraq and Afghanistan. At least in Afghanistan there was a decent reason for going in. Iraq was a false war from the start, with ridiculous reasoning. And when you look at where the other countries are, that the US has been lending a hand to, when it comes to the utterly disingenuous push for "democracy", what can one say? Egypt, Libya, etc. What gross incompetence. No wonder their influence is waning. At least Hillary was competent. To look at Kerry fumbling around on the world stage is to witness the work of a fool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinmaew Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Oh how lovely. Take note AUS/UK there is no need to cow tow to the US by wasting billions of your countries money which could be spent on health and education instead of fighting these pointless wars that have achieved zero to date except more angst toward the west. Thailand doesnt need to and they still have "Warm relations" with the US. Saddam and Bin are gone hooooray millions more to replace them how long shall we maintain this idiotic stance of forcing US style democracy on Islamic countries where this concept is totally alien? How much more of taxpayers money should we waste standing side by side with the yanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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