Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

belg post # 10

With a bit of bad luck, overstayers might already be detained & blacklisted before the new rule starts... anyway, new rule... the old rule was doomed to change, 20.000 baht to fix many years of illegal overstaying / working, way too cheap

The crux of the matter is that in truth many ''overstayers'' have blended and merged into the system and their local community, the U.K has many illegals despite all sorts of wonderful controls and gadgetry much like the rests of Europe and certainly the Americans as well as the Australians and I think to a lesser degree new Zealand too.
Those who are on long overstays as I've already said ''have blended into their local community and its system of operation'' thus they are not going to be rushing out into the open waving flags and beating drums to declare their presence. the cure is fine however prevention would be better.A simpler system of processing visa applications and issuance would have been the panacea cure all to this current rash of hysteria.
I'll bet a pound of gold to a pound of effluent there will soon be an enterprising Thai who will put in a place and operate a ''visa issuance system'' to ease assorted visa problems etc.

I totally agree with you. Everyday here, people refer to any person who has the slightest visa problem, as if that person were the worst criminal element imaginable. That is hysteria. Especially since most of our home countries were built on immigration, and often illegal immigration.

  • Like 1
  • Replies 66
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted

The "friend" will have as much chance of obtaining an ED extension as I would have of swimming to the moon. The new policy which takes into account one's previous history in Thailand over the past two years would alone prejudice his chances.

  • Like 1
Posted

3 year overstay, and then people wonder and complain why immigration are clamping down. Another example of why what is happening, is happening. These are the people that are making it difficult for the people who do want to stay here and live by the rules.

What nonsense. I see this kind of post all the time from people on here. This point is a ridiculous one for 3 reasons :

1. Suggesting there is a link between illegal overstayers and visa legislation in this country is crazy. Are you really suggesting Thai politicians and civil servants are all sitting around saying to eachother "well if we just didnt have any overstayers then we would reform our visa rules".....lol. I dont think so. You are giving them way too much credit by suggesting they know better but just arent doing it because some people overstay. Overstayers surely dont count for anymore than lets say 5% of immigration here (Western I mean). Are you suggesting Thai officials base their whole immigration policy around such a small percentage of people breaking it. Well i hope not and dont think so anyway.

2. What country doesn't have overstayers ?!............ are we suggesting that visa rules can only be reformed in a country if/when there are no overstayers. If on that basis then no country would ever change their immigration policies because there will always be overstayers.

3. An overstayer has very little negative impact on the Thai state. There is no social system here, if you live here then you pay for everything. Pretty much only the roads you walk on could count. Even from a visa side of things....compared with actually getting visas an overstayer would have to be here maybe 2 - 3 years before the 20,000 that will eventually pay in fines is less then the equivalent visas they should of got. While overstaying or even not overstaying a foreigner cannot take anything away from a Thai national or the Thai state. if someone overstays lets say 1 year then the Thai state is still up in regards to money. The only negative possibility is if we are talking pure morals and principle.

Saying things like "These are the people that are making it difficult for the people who do want to stay here and live by the rules" sounds all good but I invite anyone to actually think does it really make it harder or perhaps there are other reasons. By suggesting such a small percentage of people are spoiling it for everyone lets Thai officials off the hook too easy.

End of speech...lol

Oh dear, how long have you overstayed for?

Can't wait till they catch you and throw your sorry ass into the nick.

End of being able to bend over and safely pick up the soap...lol

  • Like 1
Posted

belg post # 10

With a bit of bad luck, overstayers might already be detained & blacklisted before the new rule starts... anyway, new rule... the old rule was doomed to change, 20.000 baht to fix many years of illegal overstaying / working, way too cheap

The crux of the matter is that in truth many ''overstayers'' have blended and merged into the system and their local community, the U.K has many illegals despite all sorts of wonderful controls and gadgetry much like the rests of Europe and certainly the Americans as well as the Australians and I think to a lesser degree new Zealand too.
Those who are on long overstays as I've already said ''have blended into their local community and its system of operation'' thus they are not going to be rushing out into the open waving flags and beating drums to declare their presence. the cure is fine however prevention would be better.A simpler system of processing visa applications and issuance would have been the panacea cure all to this current rash of hysteria.
I'll bet a pound of gold to a pound of effluent there will soon be an enterprising Thai who will put in a place and operate a ''visa issuance system'' to ease assorted visa problems etc.

I totally agree with you. Everyday here, people refer to any person who has the slightest visa problem, as if that person were the worst criminal element imaginable. That is hysteria. Especially since most of our home countries were built on immigration, and often illegal immigration.

Except we are not talking about someone who has a slight visa problem, we are talking about someone who has knowingly overstayed his visa for 3 years.

That means that for every day that the over stayer has been here without a visa, he has broken the law.

Why is it hysteria to refer to a criminal as a criminal?

By the way, my country has not been built on illegal immigration since 1066.

  • Like 2
Posted

As ever we seem to have two camps

The law abiding guys who do everything by the book ( but sleep well at night )

And the other - who up to now have not concerned themselves about the law- ( now do not sleep so well) and seem to think the law does not apply to them.

Until a few weeks ago that was no problem, the reality is Thailand is now under military rule- and things are changing.

A good thing? Depends which camp you are in .

Maybe the OP,s friend should just stay under the radar- not sleeping- but not too tricky in the depths of Isaan .

An attempt now to rush off to pay the fine and come back may not work, but who knows it might? It's a mystery

Posted

So your friend has totally ignored the law and overstayed for 3 years knowing the worst punishment would be a 20,000 baht fine?

Immigration decide to change the punishment and all of a sudden he wants to fix his problem.

To me the only difference is a blacklist vs a fine.

If he felt the need to ignore the law before then why change now?

Keep on doing what he's done and simply change to risk from a fine to deportation.

  • Like 1
Posted

Well, what I have been reading regarding the new rules and his situation, he has been here 3 yrs and overstayed, that long will show the authority's he did not give a shit for the rules and I truely believe he will be black listed from now not after the dead line. I think he is screwed good and proper. Puket are not waiting for the deadline they are implementing the new rules now.

It is all a bit silly, Thailand needs tourists for their revenue like all other Asian country's and on the other side they are kicking them out and refusing entry.

The authority's are going to hurt a lot of Thais as most of the guys are taking care of Thai family's, if they cannot stay or come back most will not send money to their G/F.

Don't worry she will soon find some one else to send her money. I don't think the Junta will be too worried that you cannot stay to look after your girl friend or her family.I once remember the story of the Thai girl friend having three foreigners sender her money and it was only after one of them checked her emails that he found out what was going on. A 3 year overstay is a 20,000 Baht fine at the airport and the likelihood of getting a sympathetic immigration officer,no matter when you depart is slim to none. Just my opinion,but I would be more inclined to disappear into the wood work.....Nakorn......whatever and hope no one wants to collect a reward from the Junta.

Posted

The "friend" will have as much chance of obtaining an ED extension as I would have of swimming to the moon. The new policy which takes into account one's previous history in Thailand over the past two years would alone prejudice his chances.

This is absolutely wrong.

The new rules have not been put into affect yet, so he should have every chance in the world to be able to make this right.

There are no reports of anyone being given blacklist punishments yet from the airports, the immigration will most certainly set a date for that. The new rules have not even been passed yet, as far as I know. The signing at borders, and the new papers there, are for now to educate us about the changes in the near future, I guess.

So when you leave the country now, you are not blacklisted, so the chances of getting back in with a proper ED visa, are imo very good, almost certain.

In the past, a passport with the stamp for a long overstay, has had no impact on obtaining a new visa whatsoever.

I know this for sure by own experience.

Yes, there will be new rules and new measurements of punishments, but they are not in affect yet. In fact, that`s why I would recommend coming back before Aug. 12th, just to be safe, before they make it harder or impossible for back to back visas to pass the borders.

The ED visas are anyway not the crackdown this time, so he will probably not have any issues at all.

Posted

What an absolute joke. What is wrong with people. "My Friend", always my friend, never me. "Your Friend" has been here allegedly on a three year overstay. Obviously didn't care about the laws of Thailand before but now, at the last minute, is supposedly worried as to what he should do. First off, if it is not you then I suggest your friend grow a pair and ask his own questions. Secondly, don't overstay and thirdly, abide by all the rules.

We all understand that many things in Thailand are interpreted far differently to the way we from the West look at things so stop bagging your host country. Next, he now intends to follow the rules. Bet if there was no change he would still be on an overstay and continue to flout the rules. Then we have those of you who are still looking for loop holes in another attempt to circumvent what the authorities have now put in place.

Please give me a break. Your "Friend deserves everything he gets and only has himself to blame if he is blacklisted and not permitted to return. I am far from being a goodie, goodie but after travelling back and forth to Thailand for over 10 years and now retired here for the past two years, I found that by adhering to the rules I have not experienced any problems and live a very comfortable life. Even if their laws seem a bit harsh, remember, you, who elected to live here, did so for your own reasons and did so of your own volition, no one forced you.

Instead of complaining and looking of ways around the system, just run with it. Sure, some things might not quite suit us but if everyone did their homework before leaving on jet plane then maybe we would have a lot less people complaining about their stuff ups and host country.

How old is he

Where does his money come from, a bit deeper than JUST 3 year overstay. Doogooders be quiet, he is a criminall no doubt.Nobody but nobody has a 3 year overstay unless he is hoiding something

Posted

What an absolute joke. What is wrong with people. "My Friend", always my friend, never me. "Your Friend" has been here allegedly on a three year overstay. Obviously didn't care about the laws of Thailand before but now, at the last minute, is supposedly worried as to what he should do. First off, if it is not you then I suggest your friend grow a pair and ask his own questions. Secondly, don't overstay and thirdly, abide by all the rules.

We all understand that many things in Thailand are interpreted far differently to the way we from the West look at things so stop bagging your host country. Next, he now intends to follow the rules. Bet if there was no change he would still be on an overstay and continue to flout the rules. Then we have those of you who are still looking for loop holes in another attempt to circumvent what the authorities have now put in place.

Please give me a break. Your "Friend deserves everything he gets and only has himself to blame if he is blacklisted and not permitted to return. I am far from being a goodie, goodie but after travelling back and forth to Thailand for over 10 years and now retired here for the past two years, I found that by adhering to the rules I have not experienced any problems and live a very comfortable life. Even if their laws seem a bit harsh, remember, you, who elected to live here, did so for your own reasons and did so of your own volition, no one forced you.

Instead of complaining and looking of ways around the system, just run with it. Sure, some things might not quite suit us but if everyone did their homework before leaving on jet plane then maybe we would have a lot less people complaining about their stuff ups and host country.

How old is he

Where does his money come from, a bit deeper than JUST 3 year overstay. Doogooders be quiet, he is a criminall no doubt.Nobody but nobody has a 3 year overstay unless he is hoiding something

What a load of crap.

I have had a long overstay myself. I never put my feet in a bar, don`t drink or smoke, don`t do any drugs, and have absolutely nothing to hide.

I am no criminal whatsoever, except my staying here for an extended time with an expired visa.

I had a personal reason for doing so, that I have no intention of discussing here with a "hang`em high" brigade.

Your comment is just plain ignorant.

  • Like 2
Posted

What an absolute joke. What is wrong with people. "My Friend", always my friend, never me. "Your Friend" has been here allegedly on a three year overstay. Obviously didn't care about the laws of Thailand before but now, at the last minute, is supposedly worried as to what he should do. First off, if it is not you then I suggest your friend grow a pair and ask his own questions. Secondly, don't overstay and thirdly, abide by all the rules.

We all understand that many things in Thailand are interpreted far differently to the way we from the West look at things so stop bagging your host country. Next, he now intends to follow the rules. Bet if there was no change he would still be on an overstay and continue to flout the rules. Then we have those of you who are still looking for loop holes in another attempt to circumvent what the authorities have now put in place.

Please give me a break. Your "Friend deserves everything he gets and only has himself to blame if he is blacklisted and not permitted to return. I am far from being a goodie, goodie but after travelling back and forth to Thailand for over 10 years and now retired here for the past two years, I found that by adhering to the rules I have not experienced any problems and live a very comfortable life. Even if their laws seem a bit harsh, remember, you, who elected to live here, did so for your own reasons and did so of your own volition, no one forced you.

Instead of complaining and looking of ways around the system, just run with it. Sure, some things might not quite suit us but if everyone did their homework before leaving on jet plane then maybe we would have a lot less people complaining about their stuff ups and host country.

How old is he

Where does his money come from, a bit deeper than JUST 3 year overstay. Doogooders be quiet, he is a criminall no doubt.Nobody but nobody has a 3 year overstay unless he is hoiding something

What a load of crap.

I have had a long overstay myself. I never put my feet in a bar, don`t drink or smoke, don`t do any drugs, and have absolutely nothing to hide.

I am no criminal whatsoever, except my staying here for an extended time with an expired visa.

I had a personal reason for doing so, that I have no intention of discussing here with a "hang`em high" brigade.

Your comment is just plain ignorant.

If you overstayed you broke the law and are therefore a criminal.

End of chat.

  • Like 1
Posted

What an absolute joke. What is wrong with people. "My Friend", always my friend, never me. "Your Friend" has been here allegedly on a three year overstay. Obviously didn't care about the laws of Thailand before but now, at the last minute, is supposedly worried as to what he should do. First off, if it is not you then I suggest your friend grow a pair and ask his own questions. Secondly, don't overstay and thirdly, abide by all the rules.

We all understand that many things in Thailand are interpreted far differently to the way we from the West look at things so stop bagging your host country. Next, he now intends to follow the rules. Bet if there was no change he would still be on an overstay and continue to flout the rules. Then we have those of you who are still looking for loop holes in another attempt to circumvent what the authorities have now put in place.

Please give me a break. Your "Friend deserves everything he gets and only has himself to blame if he is blacklisted and not permitted to return. I am far from being a goodie, goodie but after travelling back and forth to Thailand for over 10 years and now retired here for the past two years, I found that by adhering to the rules I have not experienced any problems and live a very comfortable life. Even if their laws seem a bit harsh, remember, you, who elected to live here, did so for your own reasons and did so of your own volition, no one forced you.

Instead of complaining and looking of ways around the system, just run with it. Sure, some things might not quite suit us but if everyone did their homework before leaving on jet plane then maybe we would have a lot less people complaining about their stuff ups and host country.

How old is he

Where does his money come from, a bit deeper than JUST 3 year overstay. Doogooders be quiet, he is a criminall no doubt.Nobody but nobody has a 3 year overstay unless he is hoiding something

What a load of crap.

I have had a long overstay myself. I never put my feet in a bar, don`t drink or smoke, don`t do any drugs, and have absolutely nothing to hide.

I am no criminal whatsoever, except my staying here for an extended time with an expired visa.

I had a personal reason for doing so, that I have no intention of discussing here with a "hang`em high" brigade.

Your comment is just plain ignorant.

Going into a bar, having a beer and a smoke isn't breaking the law.

Being on overstay is breaking the law, and you would have good reason to hide. You are a criminal in the eyes of the law, end of.

  • Like 1
Posted

What an absolute joke. What is wrong with people. "My Friend", always my friend, never me. "Your Friend" has been here allegedly on a three year overstay. Obviously didn't care about the laws of Thailand before but now, at the last minute, is supposedly worried as to what he should do. First off, if it is not you then I suggest your friend grow a pair and ask his own questions. Secondly, don't overstay and thirdly, abide by all the rules.

We all understand that many things in Thailand are interpreted far differently to the way we from the West look at things so stop bagging your host country. Next, he now intends to follow the rules. Bet if there was no change he would still be on an overstay and continue to flout the rules. Then we have those of you who are still looking for loop holes in another attempt to circumvent what the authorities have now put in place.

Please give me a break. Your "Friend deserves everything he gets and only has himself to blame if he is blacklisted and not permitted to return. I am far from being a goodie, goodie but after travelling back and forth to Thailand for over 10 years and now retired here for the past two years, I found that by adhering to the rules I have not experienced any problems and live a very comfortable life. Even if their laws seem a bit harsh, remember, you, who elected to live here, did so for your own reasons and did so of your own volition, no one forced you.

Instead of complaining and looking of ways around the system, just run with it. Sure, some things might not quite suit us but if everyone did their homework before leaving on jet plane then maybe we would have a lot less people complaining about their stuff ups and host country.

How old is he

Where does his money come from, a bit deeper than JUST 3 year overstay. Doogooders be quiet, he is a criminall no doubt.Nobody but nobody has a 3 year overstay unless he is hoiding something

What a load of crap.

I have had a long overstay myself. I never put my feet in a bar, don`t drink or smoke, don`t do any drugs, and have absolutely nothing to hide.

I am no criminal whatsoever, except my staying here for an extended time with an expired visa.

I had a personal reason for doing so, that I have no intention of discussing here with a "hang`em high" brigade.

Your comment is just plain ignorant.

Going into a bar, having a beer and a smoke isn't breaking the law.

Being on overstay is breaking the law, and you would have good reason to hide. You are a criminal in the eyes of the law, end of.

Don`t act like you don`t understand what I mean.

Bernard Flint clearly meant that everybody on years of overstay is a criminal, NOT included the overstay in itself.

Easy to understand.

Of course I know that entering bars isn`t breaking any law, but you missed my point completely.

Okey, for some of you I am boring, but I stay here for reasons beyond jerking around in bars.

The climate, I have a wife here and so on.

Posted

What an absolute joke. What is wrong with people. "My Friend", always my friend, never me. "Your Friend" has been here allegedly on a three year overstay. Obviously didn't care about the laws of Thailand before but now, at the last minute, is supposedly worried as to what he should do. First off, if it is not you then I suggest your friend grow a pair and ask his own questions. Secondly, don't overstay and thirdly, abide by all the rules.

We all understand that many things in Thailand are interpreted far differently to the way we from the West look at things so stop bagging your host country. Next, he now intends to follow the rules. Bet if there was no change he would still be on an overstay and continue to flout the rules. Then we have those of you who are still looking for loop holes in another attempt to circumvent what the authorities have now put in place.

Please give me a break. Your "Friend deserves everything he gets and only has himself to blame if he is blacklisted and not permitted to return. I am far from being a goodie, goodie but after travelling back and forth to Thailand for over 10 years and now retired here for the past two years, I found that by adhering to the rules I have not experienced any problems and live a very comfortable life. Even if their laws seem a bit harsh, remember, you, who elected to live here, did so for your own reasons and did so of your own volition, no one forced you.

Instead of complaining and looking of ways around the system, just run with it. Sure, some things might not quite suit us but if everyone did their homework before leaving on jet plane then maybe we would have a lot less people complaining about their stuff ups and host country.

How old is he

Where does his money come from, a bit deeper than JUST 3 year overstay. Doogooders be quiet, he is a criminall no doubt.Nobody but nobody has a 3 year overstay unless he is hoiding something

What a load of crap.

I have had a long overstay myself. I never put my feet in a bar, don`t drink or smoke, don`t do any drugs, and have absolutely nothing to hide.

I am no criminal whatsoever, except my staying here for an extended time with an expired visa.

I had a personal reason for doing so, that I have no intention of discussing here with a "hang`em high" brigade.

Your comment is just plain ignorant.

bravo.sir

Posted

What an absolute joke. What is wrong with people. "My Friend", always my friend, never me. "Your Friend" has been here allegedly on a three year overstay. Obviously didn't care about the laws of Thailand before but now, at the last minute, is supposedly worried as to what he should do. First off, if it is not you then I suggest your friend grow a pair and ask his own questions. Secondly, don't overstay and thirdly, abide by all the rules.

We all understand that many things in Thailand are interpreted far differently to the way we from the West look at things so stop bagging your host country. Next, he now intends to follow the rules. Bet if there was no change he would still be on an overstay and continue to flout the rules. Then we have those of you who are still looking for loop holes in another attempt to circumvent what the authorities have now put in place.

Please give me a break. Your "Friend deserves everything he gets and only has himself to blame if he is blacklisted and not permitted to return. I am far from being a goodie, goodie but after travelling back and forth to Thailand for over 10 years and now retired here for the past two years, I found that by adhering to the rules I have not experienced any problems and live a very comfortable life. Even if their laws seem a bit harsh, remember, you, who elected to live here, did so for your own reasons and did so of your own volition, no one forced you.

Instead of complaining and looking of ways around the system, just run with it. Sure, some things might not quite suit us but if everyone did their homework before leaving on jet plane then maybe we would have a lot less people complaining about their stuff ups and host country.

How old is he

Where does his money come from, a bit deeper than JUST 3 year overstay. Doogooders be quiet, he is a criminall no doubt.Nobody but nobody has a 3 year overstay unless he is hoiding something

What a load of crap.

I have had a long overstay myself. I never put my feet in a bar, don`t drink or smoke, don`t do any drugs, and have absolutely nothing to hide.

I am no criminal whatsoever, except my staying here for an extended time with an expired visa.

I had a personal reason for doing so, that I have no intention of discussing here with a "hang`em high" brigade.

Your comment is just plain ignorant.

Posted

What an absolute joke. What is wrong with people. "My Friend", always my friend, never me. "Your Friend" has been here allegedly on a three year overstay. Obviously didn't care about the laws of Thailand before but now, at the last minute, is supposedly worried as to what he should do. First off, if it is not you then I suggest your friend grow a pair and ask his own questions. Secondly, don't overstay and thirdly, abide by all the rules.

We all understand that many things in Thailand are interpreted far differently to the way we from the West look at things so stop bagging your host country. Next, he now intends to follow the rules. Bet if there was no change he would still be on an overstay and continue to flout the rules. Then we have those of you who are still looking for loop holes in another attempt to circumvent what the authorities have now put in place.

Please give me a break. Your "Friend deserves everything he gets and only has himself to blame if he is blacklisted and not permitted to return. I am far from being a goodie, goodie but after travelling back and forth to Thailand for over 10 years and now retired here for the past two years, I found that by adhering to the rules I have not experienced any problems and live a very comfortable life. Even if their laws seem a bit harsh, remember, you, who elected to live here, did so for your own reasons and did so of your own volition, no one forced you.

Instead of complaining and looking of ways around the system, just run with it. Sure, some things might not quite suit us but if everyone did their homework before leaving on jet plane then maybe we would have a lot less people complaining about their stuff ups and host country.

How old is he

Where does his money come from, a bit deeper than JUST 3 year overstay. Doogooders be quiet, he is a criminall no doubt.Nobody but nobody has a 3 year overstay unless he is hoiding something

What a load of crap.

I have had a long overstay myself. I never put my feet in a bar, don`t drink or smoke, don`t do any drugs, and have absolutely nothing to hide.

I am no criminal whatsoever, except my staying here for an extended time with an expired visa.

I had a personal reason for doing so, that I have no intention of discussing here with a "hang`em high" brigade.

Your comment is just plain ignorant.

If you overstayed you broke the law and are therefore a criminal.

End of chat.

Again, not what Bernard Flint meant with his comment.

He meant everyone are criminals, not included the overstay in itself.

End of chat.

Posted

3 year overstay, and then people wonder and complain why immigration are clamping down. Another example of why what is happening, is happening. These are the people that are making it difficult for the people who do want to stay here and live by the rules.

What nonsense. I see this kind of post all the time from people on here. This point is a ridiculous one for 3 reasons :

1. Suggesting there is a link between illegal overstayers and visa legislation in this country is crazy. Are you really suggesting Thai politicians and civil servants are all sitting around saying to eachother "well if we just didnt have any overstayers then we would reform our visa rules".....lol. I dont think so. You are giving them way too much credit by suggesting they know better but just arent doing it because some people overstay. Overstayers surely dont count for anymore than lets say 5% of immigration here (Western I mean). Are you suggesting Thai officials base their whole immigration policy around such a small percentage of people breaking it. Well i hope not and dont think so anyway.

2. What country doesn't have overstayers ?!............ are we suggesting that visa rules can only be reformed in a country if/when there are no overstayers. If on that basis then no country would ever change their immigration policies because there will always be overstayers.

3. An overstayer has very little negative impact on the Thai state. There is no social system here, if you live here then you pay for everything. Pretty much only the roads you walk on could count. Even from a visa side of things....compared with actually getting visas an overstayer would have to be here maybe 2 - 3 years before the 20,000 that will eventually pay in fines is less then the equivalent visas they should of got. While overstaying or even not overstaying a foreigner cannot take anything away from a Thai national or the Thai state. if someone overstays lets say 1 year then the Thai state is still up in regards to money. The only negative possibility is if we are talking pure morals and principle.

Saying things like "These are the people that are making it difficult for the people who do want to stay here and live by the rules" sounds all good but I invite anyone to actually think does it really make it harder or perhaps there are other reasons. By suggesting such a small percentage of people are spoiling it for everyone lets Thai officials off the hook too easy.

End of speech...lol

Oh dear, how long have you overstayed for?

Can't wait till they catch you and throw your sorry ass into the nick.

End of being able to bend over and safely pick up the soap...lol

ah someone else who thinks an opinion opposite to his means the person must be on an overstay. plus the personal attack thrown in based on an assumption. i guess one just has to put it down to a poor education......its not your fault smile.png

I'm all fine with my work permit and a permanent yearly extension thanks smile.png

Nice try at the troll though but im afraid an epic fail !

Posted

The OP states his "friend" (whatever) is well off and now wants to do the right thing after staying here for 3 years illegally. Wait a minute, no he isn't, he's trying to weasel himself an Ed Visa. No remorse, probably no intention whatsoever of honouring the rules of that visa. How old is the "friend"??? Well off means he could afford a suitable visa/extension of stay ie over 50 retirement, under 50 the elite card or marriage. The "friend" certainly has means if the only crime is the overstay itself and not supported with unauthorised/illegal income.

I don't wish to tar everyone with the same brush and a period of amnesty would be a good thing. Possibly a hefty fine a final warning and a clean slate would be a better idea. Interesting reading matters ahead for TV members, over our morning coffee.

Posted

He better leaves and deals with it overstay before the new rules come into effect. Than he will be in much more trouble than he is now.

Best is to leave as son as possible, with the paperwork to get an ED-visa straight away and not to return on a visa exempt entry or tourist visa, and leave and return by air.

No guarantees, but he should be OK.

Thank you for this great post. I am wondering though how it is possible to get paperwork for ED visa with an invalid visa? If this is possible and they are not blacklisting yet I would recommend this to everyone in this situation.

Posted

What's with all these posters hiding behind "my friend has visa troubles"? It should be nothing to be ashamed of. Just admit candidly that it's you, not some imaginary friend. Honesty will save the day.

This is a bad idea for a myriad of reasons and I would recommend anyone, even people like my friend whos singular infraction is overstaying a visa to post under an alias.

Posted

What an absolute joke. What is wrong with people. "My Friend", always my friend, never me. "Your Friend" has been here allegedly on a three year overstay. Obviously didn't care about the laws of Thailand before but now, at the last minute, is supposedly worried as to what he should do. First off, if it is not you then I suggest your friend grow a pair and ask his own questions. Secondly, don't overstay and thirdly, abide by all the rules.

We all understand that many things in Thailand are interpreted far differently to the way we from the West look at things so stop bagging your host country. Next, he now intends to follow the rules. Bet if there was no change he would still be on an overstay and continue to flout the rules. Then we have those of you who are still looking for loop holes in another attempt to circumvent what the authorities have now put in place.

Please give me a break. Your "Friend deserves everything he gets and only has himself to blame if he is blacklisted and not permitted to return. I am far from being a goodie, goodie but after travelling back and forth to Thailand for over 10 years and now retired here for the past two years, I found that by adhering to the rules I have not experienced any problems and live a very comfortable life. Even if their laws seem a bit harsh, remember, you, who elected to live here, did so for your own reasons and did so of your own volition, no one forced you.

Instead of complaining and looking of ways around the system, just run with it. Sure, some things might not quite suit us but if everyone did their homework before leaving on jet plane then maybe we would have a lot less people complaining about their stuff ups and host country.

How old is he

Where does his money come from, a bit deeper than JUST 3 year overstay. Doogooders be quiet, he is a criminall no doubt.Nobody but nobody has a 3 year overstay unless he is hoiding something

Of course he was fully aware of the consequences, and although this will be hard for many people to imagine, it was simply the best option given his circumstances. Now that the circumstances have changed, it may no longer be and that is why he is considering rectifying the visa and going legal.

Posted

What's with all these posters hiding behind "my friend has visa troubles"? It should be nothing to be ashamed of. Just admit candidly that it's you, not some imaginary friend. Honesty will save the day.

This is a bad idea for a myriad of reasons and I would recommend anyone, even people like my friend whos singular infraction is overstaying a visa to post under an alias.

Eh, no.

Your name stayedtoolongoops is already an alias. Just like everyone else here on Thaivisa uses an alias. No need to invent an imaginary friend and saddle him with your problems.

Posted

Naturally , he does not want to consider a consult with an immigration lawyer where he will more than likely get a valid answer to his dilemma, rather than take a chance with "he should be OK" as an answer to a serious problem I cant understand why so many farangs think other farangs have the answers to these legitimate questions. Wishing your friend good luck with whose advice you choose to take

He better leaves and deals with it overstay before the new rules come into effect. Than he will be in much more trouble than he is now.

Best is to leave as son as possible, with the paperwork to get an ED-visa straight away and not to return on a visa exempt entry or tourist visa, and leave and return by air.

No guarantees, but he should be OK.

Posted

do you or anyone else know the number of a prominent immigration lawyer? Edu visa option seems out, schools require valid visa before paperwork was given out.

Naturally , he does not want to consider a consult with an immigration lawyer where he will more than likely get a valid answer to his dilemma, rather than take a chance with "he should be OK" as an answer to a serious problem I cant understand why so many farangs think other farangs have the answers to these legitimate questions. Wishing your friend good luck with whose advice you choose to take

He better leaves and deals with it overstay before the new rules come into effect. Than he will be in much more trouble than he is now.

Best is to leave as son as possible, with the paperwork to get an ED-visa straight away and not to return on a visa exempt entry or tourist visa, and leave and return by air.

No guarantees, but he should be OK.

Posted

The "friend" will have as much chance of obtaining an ED extension as I would have of swimming to the moon. The new policy which takes into account one's previous history in Thailand over the past two years would alone prejudice his chances.

This is absolutely wrong.

The new rules have not been put into affect yet, so he should have every chance in the world to be able to make this right.

/* snip */

In all happiness, I have the gut feeling, that at this time getting an ED visa after a three year overstay will just trigger the IO's alarm, not to speak of picking up a tourist visa. Three years not enough to learn Thai? And it's my uneducated opinion that trying to get a new visa in a neighbouring coutry will neither work well with the IO, while the consulate in the home country may balk.
Posted

If you overstayed you broke the law and are therefore a criminal.

End of chat.

Folks, let's get the finer points of law sorted out at this point. There are fine grades of what transgression of law results in.

misdemeneour = slap on the hand, where the BiB will take a trinket from you.

felony = officials frown cause you ignored a substantial statute or rule, a magistrate will fine you a perhaps substantial amount.

crime = the state takes a dim view of your actions as mentioned in criminal law or other statute, a state attorney will take you thru a trial in front of a judge and you will end up with a conviction and time in jail (cutting out many finer details here).

Only the last listed proceedings gets a person officially titled a "criminal" and recorded as such.

Calling someone a criminal at whim can get a person the target of a libel / sander case themselves, depending jurisdiction.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Topics

  • Popular Contributors

  • Latest posts...

    1. 0

      Search Underway for Hero Who Saved Mother & Toddler from Sinking Car in Udon Thani

    2. 11

      Thailand Live Saturday 21 June 2025

    3. 3

      Pattaya Outrage: Taxi Driver Assaults Bolt Passenger

    4. 0

      Authorities Raid Fake Cough Syrup Factories Across Four Provinces

    5. 134

      Is paying the bar to take a girl out of the bar justified? Or just a scam?

    6. 11

      Thailand Live Saturday 21 June 2025

  • Popular in The Pub

×
×
  • Create New...