MH17 investigation 50 percent completed - Ahmad Zahid

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MH17 investigation 50 per cent completed - Ahmad Zahid
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SEPANG, Aug 7 (Bernama) -- The investigation into the MH17 crash incident in eastern Ukraine has now reached 50 per cent based on the evidence gathered at the crash site and accounts from eye-witnesses, said Home Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi.

He said besides the victim's personal belongings, the international investigation team had also found the ill-fated plane's cockpit at a poultry farm, near the crash site.

"The preliminary investigation found shrapnels from the cockpit, but the investigation team will probably take three more weeks to remove the remnants of the aircraft from the crash site," he told reporters at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport, here, today upon his arrival from Ukraine.

Ahmad Zahid said the investigation team had still not found the bodies of the rest of the victims, hence the search had been extended to the lake area nearby.

He said a team of 10 divers from the Netherlands, Australia and Malaysia was scouring the lake area for the missing bodies or body parts.

"The search operation at the lake started at 7.30am, local time today, but the divers have not found any evidence or the body of any crash victim there," he added.

Sixty-two bodies have not been found yet since the Malaysia Airlines plane on flight MH17 crashed at Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, near the Russian border, while on its way from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur on July 17.

Ahmad Zahid said the investigation team was only allowed one and a half hour at the crash site and the probe zones had been expanded from four zones to six.

"Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar had tried but was also only allowed to be within a 20km radius of the crash site for one and a half hour.

At the moment, there are 87 officers and members of the Royal Malaysian Police (PDRM) stationed in Soledar, Ukraine to continue with the investigation.

Asked whether the remains of the Malaysian MH17 crash victims would be brought home together or in stages, Ahmad Zahid said this would depend on the decision of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak.

The Boeing 777-200 carrying 298 people - 283 passengers and 15 crew members - is believed to have been shot down by a missile but so far, no party has claimed responsibility for the heinous act.

Among the 298 onboard the aircraft were 43 Malaysians. (BERNAMA)

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[laolover88]

And is this being reported in the Western Press? NO. They are a disgrace Edited August 7, 2014 by laolover88

[F430murci]

And is this being reported in the Western Press? NO. They are a disgrace

What is a disgrace??? What do you contend that article says that US news sources have not said?

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The owner of the white Volvo truck that is said to have carried the BUK missile that reportedly shot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 has provided new evidence in the investigation. According to the latest report, the evidence provided by this man indicates that pro-Russian rebels are involved in the missile strike.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/561937/20140806/mh17-truck-owner-buk-missile-malaysia-airlines.htm#.U-LwRaa9LCR

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MH17 breakthrough: owner of Volvo truck that transported missile fears for his life

The world is one step closer to locating the separatists who shot down Malaysian Airlines flight MH17.

The owner of a Volvo truck that reportedly smuggled a BUK missile into Ukraine that downed flight MH17 has been found and now fears for his life.

Yes, of course. It is easy to recognise. We know our vehicles. Yes, it is ours, he confirmed.

It is the only Volvo with such a cabin.

http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh17-breakthrough-owner-of-volvo-truck-that-transported-missile-fears-for-his-life/story-fnizu68q-1227014149633

[F430murci]

Dutch PM Halts Search For MH17 Victims' Remains

AMSTERDAM (AP) The Netherlands' prime minister has halted the search for remains of victims of the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 disaster in Ukraine, saying it is too dangerous to continue.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5655312

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Search for MH17 victims halted, too dangerous

(CNN) - Fierce fighting in eastern Ukraine has forced authorities to suspend the search for victims who died when Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot out of the sky.

"The Dutch mission at the crash site of MH17 has stopped," Prime Minister Mark Rutte told reporters Wednesday.

Search teams plan to return to the plane crash site, Rutte said. But he didn't give a date of when that might happen.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/06/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/

[BLUENILE]

 

And is this being reported in the Western Press? NO. They are a disgrace

What is a disgrace??? What do you contend that article says that US news sources have not said?

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The owner of the white Volvo truck that is said to have carried the BUK missile that reportedly shot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 has provided new evidence in the investigation. According to the latest report, the evidence provided by this man indicates that pro-Russian rebels are involved in the missile strike.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/561937/20140806/mh17-truck-owner-buk-missile-malaysia-airlines.htm#.U-LwRaa9LCR

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MH17 breakthrough: owner of Volvo truck that transported missile fears for his life

The world is one step closer to locating the separatists who shot down Malaysian Airlines flight MH17.

The owner of a Volvo truck that reportedly smuggled a BUK missile into Ukraine that downed flight MH17 has been found and now fears for his life.

Yes, of course. It is easy to recognise. We know our vehicles. Yes, it is ours, he confirmed.

It is the only Volvo with such a cabin.

http://mobile.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh17-breakthrough-owner-of-volvo-truck-that-transported-missile-fears-for-his-life/story-fnizu68q-1227014149633

This is propaganda, the fact that Ukraine, NATO and US refusing/fail to disclose technical evidence (radar, satellite and communication of traffic controller) point the finger to Ukraine authorities.

 

[psmiller]

Can anyone explain why there are bullet holes in the fuselage? Something neglected by most media outlets.

 

[gregk0543]

Can anyone explain why there are bullet holes in the fuselage? Something neglected by most media outlets.

 

The Buk missile that shot it down explodes in proximity to the target with a shower of shrapnel that causes this sort of damage. Rapid decompression in an airliner and lots of other messy stuff. So I think that may be what you are referring to.

[riverchapel]

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=251608

[HUAHIN62]

 

Can anyone explain why there are bullet holes in the fuselage? Something neglected by most media outlets.

 

The Buk missile that shot it down explodes in proximity to the target with a shower of shrapnel that causes this sort of damage. Rapid decompression in an airliner and lots of other messy stuff. So I think that may be what you are referring to.

 

Look at the video at +- 6m40s, http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-mh17-michael-bociurkiw-talks-about-being-first-at-the-crash-site-1.2721007?cmp=rss&partner=sky. The number on the BUK missile launcher was 312, this same missile is on a video passing and advertisement board with the name of a vehicle trader on it, the problem is that that vehicle trader is in a town controled by the Kiev government, not the rebels. The supposed Youtube video of a conversation between 2 rebels about an airplane being shotdown have a creation date of the 16th, the plane was only shotdown on the 17th. The same video was analysed and found to consist of atleast 3 different recordings edited together. There is no clear culprit, lets wait for the investigation.

[fasteddie]

Can anyone explain why there are bullet holes in the fuselage? Something neglected by most media outlets.

 

 

I think this might answer your question.

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/evidence-is-now-conclusive-two-ukrainian-government-fighter-jets-shot-down-malaysian-airlines-mh17-it-was-not-a-buk-surface-to-air-missile/5394814

[fasteddie]

 

Can anyone explain why there are bullet holes in the fuselage? Something neglected by most media outlets.

 

The Buk missile that shot it down explodes in proximity to the target with a shower of shrapnel that causes this sort of damage. Rapid decompression in an airliner and lots of other messy stuff. So I think that may be what you are referring to.

 

 

No I think he's referring to entrance and exit bullet holes on the same piece of wreckage.

[F430murci]

 

 

Can anyone explain why there are bullet holes in the fuselage? Something neglected by most media outlets.

 

The Buk missile that shot it down explodes in proximity to the target with a shower of shrapnel that causes this sort of damage. Rapid decompression in an airliner and lots of other messy stuff. So I think that may be what you are referring to.

 

 

No I think he's referring to entrance and exit bullet holes on the same piece of wreckage.

 

 

 

I often wonder what kind of people read stuff like Global Research and if anyone takes it seriously, what kind of idiot could seriously believe some of the stuff written Global Research.

 

Wiki actually has a surprisingly decent summary of Global Research and answer to my questions.

 

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. . . the site has a strong undercurrent of reality warping and bullshit throughout its pages, especially in relation to taking its news from Russia Today, along with other unreliable and/or open sources.

 

Despite presenting itself as a source of scholarly analysis, Globalresearch.ca mostly consists of polemics many of which accept (and use) conspiracy theories, pseudoscience and propaganda. The prevalent conspiracist strand relates to global power-elites (primarily governments and corporations) and their New World Order.^[1] Specific featured conspiracy theories include those addressing 9/11,^[2]vaccines,^[3]genetic modification,^[4]Zionism,^[5][6]HAARP,^[7]global warming,^[8][9] and David Kelly.^[10] Analyses of these issues tend follow the lines of the site's political biases.

 

Apparently, contributors to Globalresearch.ca consider information sourced from anyone who seems aligned to their ideology as reliable; during the 2011 Libyan civil war the site was an apologist for Muammar al-Gaddafi,^[11] reproducing his propaganda and painting him as a paragon of a modern leader. In the 2014 Ukrainian crisis the site is taking the standard "anti-globalisation" stance against the Western side and falling into the ranks of imperial Russian propaganda instead.

 

It's no surprise then that the site has long become a magnet for radicals, fringe figures and whacko elements from the left in general. And ironically, it has more in common with its writers' enemies and wingnut rivals than they would ever admit.

 

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca

[hawker9000]

 

 

 

Can anyone explain why there are bullet holes in the fuselage? Something neglected by most media outlets.

 

The Buk missile that shot it down explodes in proximity to the target with a shower of shrapnel that causes this sort of damage. Rapid decompression in an airliner and lots of other messy stuff. So I think that may be what you are referring to.

 

 

No I think he's referring to entrance and exit bullet holes on the same piece of wreckage.

 

 

 

I often wonder what kind of people read stuff like Global Research and if anyone takes it seriously, what kind of idiot could seriously believe some of the stuff written Global Research.

 

Wiki actually has a surprisingly decent summary of Global Research and answer to my questions.

 

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. . . the site has a strong undercurrent of reality warping and bullshit throughout its pages, especially in relation to taking its news from Russia Today, along with other unreliable and/or open sources.

 

Despite presenting itself as a source of scholarly analysis, Globalresearch.ca mostly consists of polemics many of which accept (and use) conspiracy theories, pseudoscience and propaganda. The prevalent conspiracist strand relates to global power-elites (primarily governments and corporations) and their New World Order.^[1] Specific featured conspiracy theories include those addressing 9/11,^[2]vaccines,^[3]genetic modification,^[4]Zionism,^[5][6]HAARP,^[7]global warming,^[8][9] and David Kelly.^[10] Analyses of these issues tend follow the lines of the site's political biases.

 

Apparently, contributors to Globalresearch.ca consider information sourced from anyone who seems aligned to their ideology as reliable; during the 2011 Libyan civil war the site was an apologist for Muammar al-Gaddafi,^[11] reproducing his propaganda and painting him as a paragon of a modern leader. In the 2014 Ukrainian crisis the site is taking the standard "anti-globalisation" stance against the Western side and falling into the ranks of imperial Russian propaganda instead.

 

It's no surprise then that the site has long become a magnet for radicals, fringe figures and whacko elements from the left in general. And ironically, it has more in common with its writers' enemies and wingnut rivals than they would ever admit.

 

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca

 

 

Much like RT...

[snottgoblin]

Below are some links I found a week  back which was then  somewhat  interesting and it would seem even more so now.

 

 

http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-point-finger-at-ukrainian-air-force-jets/

 

 

http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2014/07/wwiii-german-pilot-shocker-mh17-not-hit-by-missile-2453444.html

[Asiantravel]

Government Likely Hiding Truth in Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 Crash - Ron Paul

 

 

When evidence contradicts our government’s accusations, the evidence is never revealed to the public—for national security reasons, of course. Some independent sources claim that the crash site revealed evidence that bullet holes may have come from a fighter jet. If true, it would implicate western Ukraine.

 

 

 

http://www.voicesofliberty.com/audio/government-likely-hiding-truth-in-malaysia-airlines-flight-17-crash/