Popular Post apiwan Posted August 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't get it. Why would you post on a forum how much money to give your wife. Then listen to a group of strangers. It's pretty evident. Look round the shops what things cost. You'd give probably the equivalent % of what you'd give in your own country. And as for the 5 baht shirt line. Shows your a stickler for detail. Did you have the calculator out when conceiving? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The expenses of a newborn are quite high. There are a lot of hidden costs. We went through and average of 6-8 diapers a day, if you are good you can potty train early but our daughter is 4 and still wears 1 diaper for the night. 50/50% dry. but as others have said at least 1k baht a month for diapers. Milk is expensive and since hospitals don't train women properly on how to breast feed, you will most likely have to buy milk. That is another 800-1,500 a month depending on the brand and quality. health care is typically free but the service is crap. If the Mom wants private care and all immunizations that are not covered by the 30 baht program, you will need to shell out another 800-1000 baht a month for that. Expect illnesses and colds and the like especially. The rough estimate of having a child is about 10-15,000 baht a month more than what you have been spending up to this point. Then add school, and special classes on top of that in 6-9 months. Can't imagine any Thai family spending 10-15k a month on their baby. 2-3k would probably be too much for most families. Immunizations, the free ones are far too many IMHO. Can't see any benefits in private health care, the government hospitals are fine. Yep, a hospital visit takes all morning, but most of the new moms are happy to chat with each other. I've also found the monthly costs don't vary much as they get older, what you spend on nursery, you save on milk powder and diapers. For me a fairly constant cost in the 2-4k per child per month (so far with kids age 0-3 and age 12-15). Listen up, good formula runs close to 3000 baht a month, diapers 1000 month. All of our baby girls innoculations were from same hospital where born and they do cost a bit. If you have money why would you take a chance with anything that's free. We're in and out of hospital quick. I get a good laugh at the foreigners bragging and lecturing about how cheap they can live here. Hmmm...he only puts things in a perspective.....nothing more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) I stopped reading after this - 5 baht ironing per shirt Do you think this guy is serious, or is he just amusing himself? Er, YES, I DID say, "AMusing" himself. No ABuse intended or implied. Edited August 27, 2014 by Torrens54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 6 shirts an hour (about 10 minutes per shirt) x 8 hours a day = 48 shirts 48 shirts x 5 bht/shirt = 240 baht per day NB: From January 1 of this year, Thailand's employers must pay all employees at least 300 baht (about $10) a day. If they don't, they will face six months in jail and/or a 100,000 baht fine for not complying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonjake Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 you pay what needs to be paid that week, that day, children grow quick, so its not just nappies,, cloaths youll be buying them more often then you think, i dont say anything when out shoping,if my wife picks something up and puts it in the trolly then we must need it as she is tighter then me, and yes i know its late but our little one has a slight fever, so im up the wifes just giving her some calpoll yes you might have to buy medicine to keep at your house, gongrats on the baby anyway jake, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Songhua Posted August 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2014 Let's be fair. He is offering to pay for the dog food. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landslide Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 If you are worried about how much to "pay" your wife and the mother of your children, you clearly are not ready for the responsibilities of a husband and father. Sit down together and set a household budget that both of you can agree with, and then stick to it. Don't be "khee nhow", but do live within your income. Try to set a little aside every month for future schooling costs. The nanny is an extravagance now, but will be worth it when your wife returns to work and until the children enter school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TobiasML Posted August 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2014 As a newly dad I am not able to understand your question. Only to consider an allowance for your wife is just ridiculous. To be honest you should get moving and do everything yourself. Next to my job I am running the household, go shopping,pay the bills. No need for a daily Nanny as it just shows that you are committed in that relationship. Is it tiring, yes, but it is what you choose. My wife would probably kill me if I even consider to "pay" her. It is your job now to take the responsibility for your family. In regards to costs: immunization package, we paid 30000THB for 3 years of immunization. Individually would cost each between 1000-3000THB in a private hospital. I would not consider any public hospital after talking with my family doctor in the west. So many things missing in their plan. Milk will run you between THB 500-1400 per week. Depending in the eating habit and brand you use. Additional doctor visits per month roughly 1000thb a month. Cloth from THB 2000 up per month. All cloth we bought before birth are already getting very small and he is only 6weeks Bottle cleaner app. 500thb per month. Cloth detergent app. 1000thb per month. You can expect to wash every 2nd day. Baby lotion,diapers, etc. will run you between 1000-2000thb. Not considering all the other expenses, like stroller, bed, books, bottles, equipment to disinfect the bottles, water heater, etc. which might cost up to 200000thb, depending in what quality you want. I might have missed some items but expect to pay on a monthly basis in the beginning THB 10000-15000 if not up to 20000. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Listen up, good formula runs close to 3000 baht a month, diapers 1000 month. All of our baby girls innoculations were from same hospital where born and they do cost a bit. If you have money why would you take a chance with anything that's free. We're in and out of hospital quick. I get a good laugh at the foreigners bragging and lecturing about how cheap they can live here. 1. I'm not a foreigner. 2. What's your hurry, she'll be sitting around all day anyway, bet she has more fun sitting with the other moms than sitting at home? 3. Milk powder is 190bht for 900gm from Makro/Tesco (Nestle lasts about 1 week). 4. Diapers are 180bht for 30 from Makro (lasts 2-3 week now)(Mama Poko way more expensive in Tesco). The milk powder all comes from the same source (usually NZ), explain the difference between 'good formula' and Nestle formula? Edited August 28, 2014 by AnotherOneAmerican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Can't imagine any Thai family spending 10-15k a month on their baby. 2-3k would probably be too much for most families. Immunizations, the free ones are far too many IMHO. Can't see any benefits in private health care, the government hospitals are fine. Yep, a hospital visit takes all morning, but most of the new moms are happy to chat with each other. I've also found the monthly costs don't vary much as they get older, what you spend on nursery, you save on milk powder and diapers. For me a fairly constant cost in the 2-4k per child per month (so far with kids age 0-3 and age 12-15). AnotherOneAmerican: You're claiming that you can raise a child for somewhere between $62 and $125 a month? That budget strikes me as bare bones - - almost neglectfully low - - certainly no room for aspirational purchases. Just for reference, I spent $30/month in 2013 caring for my German shepard.) While it is true that many impoverished Thai families do spend as little as this, they are not doing so by choice, but out of economic hardship. I just hope that there's no one out there who's rationalizing that because some poor Thai families can't spend any more than this on their children, there's no need for them to spend any more than this as well. Edited August 28, 2014 by Gecko123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Can't imagine any Thai family spending 10-15k a month on their baby. 2-3k would probably be too much for most families. Immunizations, the free ones are far too many IMHO. Can't see any benefits in private health care, the government hospitals are fine. Yep, a hospital visit takes all morning, but most of the new moms are happy to chat with each other. I've also found the monthly costs don't vary much as they get older, what you spend on nursery, you save on milk powder and diapers. For me a fairly constant cost in the 2-4k per child per month (so far with kids age 0-3 and age 12-15). AnotherOneAmerican: You're claiming that you can raise a child for somewhere between $62 and $125 a month? That budget strikes me as bare bones - - almost neglectfully low - - certainly no room for aspirational purchases. While it is true that many impoverished Thai families do spend as little as this, they are not doing so by choice, but out of economic hardship. I just hope that there's no one out there who's rationalizing that because some poor Thai families can't spend any more than this on their children, there's no need for them to spend any more than this as well. I've found the government hospital care of children in Thailand to be as good as any in the world. Mostly what children want, is a father around all the time, not money sent by an absentee parent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisemonkey Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 LoL I didnt know this was an option, Ive been fully supporting my girl and my son for the last 2 years, I should employ some methods from OP! where are you paying 8000 baht rent? thats insane, Ive got a small 2 bedroom apartment in bangkok and thats costing me 29k, will be moving to chiang mai soon though. If you really want to know some costs, formula is about 800 baht a month, nappies around the same. Electricity and water is dirt cheap as you would know. Dont know why you would need a nanny? And to be honest I didnt know Nanny's were that cheap, im paying more for daycare now than a 250 a day nanny would cost where do you find these nanny's? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) LoL I didnt know this was an option, Ive been fully supporting my girl and my son for the last 2 years, I should employ some methods from OP! where are you paying 8000 baht rent? thats insane, Ive got a small 2 bedroom apartment in bangkok and thats costing me 29k, will be moving to chiang mai soon though. If you really want to know some costs, formula is about 800 baht a month, nappies around the same. Electricity and water is dirt cheap as you would know. Dont know why you would need a nanny? And to be honest I didnt know Nanny's were that cheap, im paying more for daycare now than a 250 a day nanny would cost where do you find these nanny's? Average nursery school in CM takes them from 2 years old, 1,800bht/month from 8am till 4:30pm, 5 days a week. (first month costs double). Once at age 5, government school is free (inc lunch) until age 13. You just pay for books and uniforms (about 4k/year). Edited August 28, 2014 by AnotherOneAmerican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I stopped reading after this - 5 baht ironing per shirt I cannot believe this post....you're asking us what YOU should pay your wife. Sometimes in life (when we become men) we have to figure some things out for ourselves. A good start would be to not tell your wife you think she is on "holidays" while taking care of her new born baby. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanBBK Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 The expenses of a newborn are quite high. There are a lot of hidden costs. We went through and average of 6-8 diapers a day, if you are good you can potty train early but our daughter is 4 and still wears 1 diaper for the night. 50/50% dry. but as others have said at least 1k baht a month for diapers. Milk is expensive and since hospitals don't train women properly on how to breast feed, you will most likely have to buy milk. That is another 800-1,500 a month depending on the brand and quality. health care is typically free but the service is crap. If the Mom wants private care and all immunizations that are not covered by the 30 baht program, you will need to shell out another 800-1000 baht a month for that. Expect illnesses and colds and the like especially. The rough estimate of having a child is about 10-15,000 baht a month more than what you have been spending up to this point. Then add school, and special classes on top of that in 6-9 months. Can't imagine any Thai family spending 10-15k a month on their baby. 2-3k would probably be too much for most families. Immunizations, the free ones are far too many IMHO. Can't see any benefits in private health care, the government hospitals are fine. Yep, a hospital visit takes all morning, but most of the new moms are happy to chat with each other. I've also found the monthly costs don't vary much as they get older, what you spend on nursery, you save on milk powder and diapers. For me a fairly constant cost in the 2-4k per child per month (so far with kids age 0-3 and age 12-15). I could not manage with that little. Alone the school bus is more.... (almost) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisemonkey Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 LoL I didnt know this was an option, Ive been fully supporting my girl and my son for the last 2 years, I should employ some methods from OP! where are you paying 8000 baht rent? thats insane, Ive got a small 2 bedroom apartment in bangkok and thats costing me 29k, will be moving to chiang mai soon though. If you really want to know some costs, formula is about 800 baht a month, nappies around the same. Electricity and water is dirt cheap as you would know. Dont know why you would need a nanny? And to be honest I didnt know Nanny's were that cheap, im paying more for daycare now than a 250 a day nanny would cost where do you find these nanny's? Average nursery school in CM takes them from 2 years old, 1,800bht/month from 8am till 4:30pm, 5 days a week. (first month costs double). Once at age 5, government school is free (inc lunch) until age 13. You just pay for books and uniforms (about 4k/year). Wow that is insanely cheap, I think at age 5 though I will have to start thinking of international schools, dont know about the government schools here and I want my son to have the best opportunities he can, we will see how it all turns out. In saying that the world is changing so much, if your child is driven and curious they could learn pretty much anything they want from youtube and the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Just pay what is needed, Scrooge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanBBK Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Just a quick word. Having a child is expensive. I reckon we spend 2 k on formula and another 2 k on diapers. But that is the least cost. There are many other things to consider, clothes, detergent, toys, bedding, medical, equipment etc. I would have thought a joint account is a normal thing. Alternatively, keep what you need for yourself and send the rest to your wife to run the household. BMW I am still not sure if this whole post is serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehock Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 To the OP. Why do you ask a question about how much money you have to pay your wife? These are your kids to, so just pay the bills that comes witht having children If not, use a condom! Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Too late for that. ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanuk711 Posted August 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2014 I bet your glad you turned to Thai Visa for advice..................... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96tehtarp Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Congratulations to both you and your wife for the coming of the little one! The most helpful advice I can give you is not to panic, enjoy. When my first one arrived I was amazed by the fact that apart from a few one time expenses there were not really any additional expenses noticed at all. Ours could not tolerate formula so we switched back to breast feeding. Of course my wife has proved to be a very capable mother in every respect and I consider myself very lucky for that. Edited August 28, 2014 by 96tehtarp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscano Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 It is really a question of what you can afford . My wife is an infant school teacher who earns bt15,000 per month , I give her bt10,000 . I am an elderly man with a limited income , but I pay for everything , including Diappers for the grandchildren . When the baby is born , you can expect to buy all the extras , rather than your wife . Perhaps you could make up the difference between bt10,000 and your wife's full salary . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne hoskins Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Mate I'm glad I'm not married to you if you where a man you would pay what ever is needed,forget about this and that just pay your wife works also and carry baby what a lady, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 For Gods sake do not ask this TV lot I read the first 2 and look what you get, rubbish. Talk it out with your wife she seems a very honest and wise lady am sure she will not screw you. If you follow some of these guys ideas you could cause a bad situation with your wife. And that's not good with baby coming. You seem to want to do the right thing so that is good. Good luck and congrats to you coming to be a Father. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 ... so we switched back to breast feeding. Of course my wife has proved to be a very capable mother in every respect and I consider myself very lucky for that. Mate ... I'm sending the boys (twins) over. Forwarding address please ... . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anders W Ferslev Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 i use alot more then 400 bath a month for nappies.. 596bath for a pack, and my son use 3-4pack a month Why does she need a helper? Is she disabled in some way? Nappies and milk are about 800bht/month. But if mom is breast feeding while at home, you won't need milk, so 400bht/month for nappies. She is still being paid 10k/month, why do need to pay more than you did? 10k/month is still a good Thai wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 For Gods sake do not ask this TV lot I read the first 2 and look what you get, rubbish. Talk it out with your wife she seems a very honest and wise lady am sure she will not screw you. If you follow some of these guys ideas you could cause a bad situation with your wife. And that's not good with baby coming. You seem to want to do the right thing so that is good. Good luck and congrats to you coming to be a Father. ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pii Kate Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I agree with you fellows who say "being a man' isn't enough. Pay the bills, don't grip about it, don't add to your wife's burden of raising a first child. The first is always the hardest. I agree, why a nanny? Housekeeper 2 times a week is a good idea unless you think it will cost too much and are willing to do it yourself. Hey, that is a great money saver and a major "manly" contribution to the household! As a nurse, suggest she get some training on breast feeding from the maternity department at her hospital. IF she wants to breast feed. It is mainly difficult the first week or so until her milk fully comes in. Also, to the fellow who wrote about post partum depression, you are so right. This can occur months after delivery. And I have to take issue with your comment about your wife taking "holidays" time while being away from work. Write in three months and tell me about her fabulous holiday time. I fear you will have difficulty adjusting to your new manly role, begrudgingly helping, etc. You may be needier than the new baby. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I stopped reading after this - 5 baht ironing per shirt i wonder whether people like the OP really exist. if yes, then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I agree with you fellows who say "being a man' isn't enough. Pay the bills, don't grip about it, don't add to your wife's burden of raising a first child. The first is always the hardest. I agree, why a nanny? Housekeeper 2 times a week is a good idea unless you think it will cost too much and are willing to do it yourself. Hey, that is a great money saver and a major "manly" contribution to the household! As a nurse, suggest she get some training on breast feeding from the maternity department at her hospital. IF she wants to breast feed. It is mainly difficult the first week or so until her milk fully comes in. Also, to the fellow who wrote about post partum depression, you are so right. This can occur months after delivery. And I have to take issue with your comment about your wife taking "holidays" time while being away from work. Write in three months and tell me about her fabulous holiday time. I fear you will have difficulty adjusting to your new manly role, begrudgingly helping, etc. You may be needier than the new baby. Good luck. somebody who pays his wife 5 baht per ironed shirt is not a man! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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