Women caught in fake marriage registration scam

[Thaiwine]

Not just Thailand has this problem, a lot of EU for the same reason. Perhaps introducing stricter laws for marriage would be applicable.

On a foreigner perspective, I'm not entirely sure what advantage marriage brings in Thailand, since it seems that you have no real rights when you marry a Thai citizen, other than the ability to apply for a marriage visa (non-o). In EU, partners are entitled, and enjoy the same community rights across the board, once they are acknowledged by the authorities as being the legal partner, as stated in the EU directive. It's a shame that foreigners in Thailand are not given the same reciprocal rights as their Thai counterparts. Perhaps one day Thailand will change this view.

The Advantage of being married to a Thai

you get a work permit

[lostinisaan]

"Some other victims are blackmailed and forced to pay a huge sum of money after posing nude via social camera during online chats," Ranyaporn added.

​Online chats, where people pay with "Token?" "No, I never did "life shows" for money online.".How could they record me?

I'm an innocent victim.....

[KIWIBATCH]

"These scammers use the pictures of good-looking men in their profile, claim they are rich and [pretend to] fall in love with their victims," Ranyaporn said.

So why would a thai women even consider sending 20,000 or 6mil toa "rich" scammer.....stupidity? greed?...just plain brainless??...all three?

[ParadiseLost]

Not just Thailand has this problem, a lot of EU for the same reason. Perhaps introducing stricter laws for marriage would be applicable.

On a foreigner perspective, I'm not entirely sure what advantage marriage brings in Thailand, since it seems that you have no real rights when you marry a Thai citizen, other than the ability to apply for a marriage visa (non-o). In EU, partners are entitled, and enjoy the same community rights across the board, once they are acknowledged by the authorities as being the legal partner, as stated in the EU directive. It's a shame that foreigners in Thailand are not given the same reciprocal rights as their Thai counterparts. Perhaps one day Thailand will change this view.

The Advantage of being married to a Thai

you get a work permit

100% incorrect - not even nearly close.

Some labour offices relax the restrictions on capital from 2 down to 1 million, and reduce the number of employees to 2, but note I said some offices. Even then, if they do it for some, it may not apply to you...

[Thaiwine]

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Not just Thailand has this problem, a lot of EU for the same reason. Perhaps introducing stricter laws for marriage would be applicable.

On a foreigner perspective, I'm not entirely sure what advantage marriage brings in Thailand, since it seems that you have no real rights when you marry a Thai citizen, other than the ability to apply for a marriage visa (non-o). In EU, partners are entitled, and enjoy the same community rights across the board, once they are acknowledged by the authorities as being the legal partner, as stated in the EU directive. It's a shame that foreigners in Thailand are not given the same reciprocal rights as their Thai counterparts. Perhaps one day Thailand will change this view.

The Advantage of being married to a Thai

you get a work permit

100% incorrect - not even nearly close.

Some labour offices relax the restrictions on capital from 2 down to 1 million, and reduce the number of employees to 2, but note I said some offices. Even then, if they do it for some, it may not apply to you...

From Siam Legal website

http://uk.siam-legal.com/Thailand-Marriage-Visa-for-UK-Citizens.php?gclid=Cj0KEQjw_IKiBRD7rPqut_OZ4qgBEiQASm4GAv5QdrlhfO5ZEqCaKJrGfExF4O7b1DzT6b2eUziAOXUaAqtt8P8HAQ

Benefits of Thai Marriage Visa

Siam Legal International offers service to process Marriage Visa to Thailand for UK citizens. This visa provides the following:

• Multiple-entry travel to Thailand.
• Valid for use for a period of 1 calendar year.
• The visa is renewable every year and can be renewed inside Thailand (applicant must meet the requirements for the visa renewal).
• Ability to apply for a work permit in Thailand.
• Permit to open bank (savings) account in Thailand.
• Ability to apply for Permanent Residency after renewals.

100% incorrect-not even nearly close?

[phil2]

A guy I used to know met this girl that told him she'd never been married, so after a coupl of years of living together, they decided to get married. It was at the district office that he found out that the wife was already married. In her case, she was woman enough to admit that she got married at the age of 16, but thought the marriage had ended since they separated after being together for a few years.

I also know that many ladies (expecially BGs) easily switch identities by renting birth certificates from people in their villages. I used to know a girl that switched her identity three times within a year.

Those women affected should think very hard if they ever give their ids, BCs, etc to their BKK, Pattaya, Phuket, etc based friends, or relatives.

[Badbanker]

If you are Thai it is a 10 min job to change your name at the Amphur.

See it all the time.

Problem is all the names and dates of changes are registered in the Police central citizenship computer!

[Sviss Geez]

....always the foreigners to blame...

You really can't read, can you?

[mango66]

Panished now !

He have to make happy now all this 611 females !

2 per day !

a HARD 2 years job !

[Sviss Geez]

Not just Thailand has this problem, a lot of EU for the same reason. Perhaps introducing stricter laws for marriage would be applicable.

On a foreigner perspective, I'm not entirely sure what advantage marriage brings in Thailand, since it seems that you have no real rights when you marry a Thai citizen, other than the ability to apply for a marriage visa (non-o). In EU, partners are entitled, and enjoy the same community rights across the board, once they are acknowledged by the authorities as being the legal partner, as stated in the EU directive. It's a shame that foreigners in Thailand are not given the same reciprocal rights as their Thai counterparts. Perhaps one day Thailand will change this view.

The Advantage of being married to a Thai

you get a work permit

Yes, you're so well-informed.

[Sviss Geez]

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The Advantage of being married to a Thai

you get a work permit

100% incorrect - not even nearly close.

Some labour offices relax the restrictions on capital from 2 down to 1 million, and reduce the number of employees to 2, but note I said some offices. Even then, if they do it for some, it may not apply to you...

From Siam Legal website

http://uk.siam-legal.com/Thailand-Marriage-Visa-for-UK-Citizens.php?gclid=Cj0KEQjw_IKiBRD7rPqut_OZ4qgBEiQASm4GAv5QdrlhfO5ZEqCaKJrGfExF4O7b1DzT6b2eUziAOXUaAqtt8P8HAQ

Benefits of Thai Marriage Visa

Siam Legal International offers service to process Marriage Visa to Thailand for UK citizens. This visa provides the following:

• Multiple-entry travel to Thailand.
• Valid for use for a period of 1 calendar year.
• The visa is renewable every year and can be renewed inside Thailand (applicant must meet the requirements for the visa renewal).
• Ability to apply for a work permit in Thailand.
• Permit to open bank (savings) account in Thailand.
• Ability to apply for Permanent Residency after renewals.

100% incorrect-not even nearly close?

100% incorrect and not even close. Anyone has the "ability" to apply for a work permit in Thailand, the applicant doesn't need to be married.

[Thaiwine]

As I understand the rules, you need either a Non Immigrant class b visa, or a visa based on marriage to apply for a work permit

not everyone would be eligible for the Non Immigrant visa, so the marriage visa would be an alternative.

Which brings me back to my post #31

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

So the official is not named and the punishment is not explained? How the hell do they ever expect to put even the smallest dent in corruption or begin to change the culture in the minds of the average Thai with regards to corruption when this individual has clearly been give a pass on this? If this happened anywhere in the West the corrupt official would be named, shamed and put behind bars for fraud on a massive scale to set an example. I know TIT, but I thought we were making steps in a new direction. Clearly not.

[bkkjames]

I can see it now. Will have to send video tapes of me yelling at my kids and in particular my wife to prove I am in fact actually married.

[Thai at Heart]

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Not just Thailand has this problem, a lot of EU for the same reason. Perhaps introducing stricter laws for marriage would be applicable.

On a foreigner perspective, I'm not entirely sure what advantage marriage brings in Thailand, since it seems that you have no real rights when you marry a Thai citizen, other than the ability to apply for a marriage visa (non-o). In EU, partners are entitled, and enjoy the same community rights across the board, once they are acknowledged by the authorities as being the legal partner, as stated in the EU directive. It's a shame that foreigners in Thailand are not given the same reciprocal rights as their Thai counterparts. Perhaps one day Thailand will change this view.

The Advantage of being married to a Thai

you get a work permit

100% incorrect - not even nearly close.

Some labour offices relax the restrictions on capital from 2 down to 1 million, and reduce the number of employees to 2, but note I said some offices. Even then, if they do it for some, it may not apply to you...

From Siam Legal website

http://uk.siam-legal.com/Thailand-Marriage-Visa-for-UK-Citizens.php?gclid=Cj0KEQjw_IKiBRD7rPqut_OZ4qgBEiQASm4GAv5QdrlhfO5ZEqCaKJrGfExF4O7b1DzT6b2eUziAOXUaAqtt8P8HAQ

Benefits of Thai Marriage Visa

Siam Legal International offers service to process Marriage Visa to Thailand for UK citizens. This visa provides the following:

• Multiple-entry travel to Thailand.
• Valid for use for a period of 1 calendar year.
• The visa is renewable every year and can be renewed inside Thailand (applicant must meet the requirements for the visa renewal).
• Ability to apply for a work permit in Thailand.
• Permit to open bank (savings) account in Thailand.
• Ability to apply for Permanent Residency after renewals.

100% incorrect-not even nearly close?

I would say that is categorical nonsense.

One needs a company to get a work permit, not a wife.

[Lite Beer]

Women report to officials after fake marriage registration scam
The Sunday Nation

KHON KAEN: -- Over 100 Thai women have reported to officials in Nong Bua Lamphu's Nong Sang district - the centre of the fake marriage-registration scam.

They include women who were really married and those whose identity was stolen, a district official, who asked not to be named, said.

The office's disciplinary probe committee was gathering information, while the Office of Public Sector Anti-Corruption Commission was also probing, the official said.

A former registrar allegedly sold some 600 women's names to foreign men, who used the names for fake marriage registration for immigration purposes from 2011 to 2013. The registrar reportedly changed his name and is now an ordained monk somewhere in Khon Kaen, the official said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Women-report-to-officials-after-fake-marriage-regi-30245768.html

-- The Nation 2014-10-19

[Richard W]

On a foreigner perspective, I'm not entirely sure what advantage marriage brings in Thailand, since it seems that you have no real rights when you marry a Thai citizen, other than the ability to apply for a marriage visa (non-o).

It allows an extension of stay for those who have no other route but an elite card. That's useful.

So, if these fake marriages were used for immigration purposes, will they now be going after the people who used them to stay here illegally?

They're already going after everyone seeking a marriage extension. Recall the extensive checks being made that the marriages are real.

[ATF]

Hope this clown gets some serious prison time not another inactive post.

Otherwise all these women should organize themselves and file a civil suit against him, the Government Department and the foreigners who married illegally for 100's of millions of baht.

[ParadiseLost]

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Not just Thailand has this problem, a lot of EU for the same reason. Perhaps introducing stricter laws for marriage would be applicable.

On a foreigner perspective, I'm not entirely sure what advantage marriage brings in Thailand, since it seems that you have no real rights when you marry a Thai citizen, other than the ability to apply for a marriage visa (non-o). In EU, partners are entitled, and enjoy the same community rights across the board, once they are acknowledged by the authorities as being the legal partner, as stated in the EU directive. It's a shame that foreigners in Thailand are not given the same reciprocal rights as their Thai counterparts. Perhaps one day Thailand will change this view.

The Advantage of being married to a Thai

you get a work permit

100% incorrect - not even nearly close.

Some labour offices relax the restrictions on capital from 2 down to 1 million, and reduce the number of employees to 2, but note I said some offices. Even then, if they do it for some, it may not apply to you...

From Siam Legal website

http://uk.siam-legal.com/Thailand-Marriage-Visa-for-UK-Citizens.php?gclid=Cj0KEQjw_IKiBRD7rPqut_OZ4qgBEiQASm4GAv5QdrlhfO5ZEqCaKJrGfExF4O7b1DzT6b2eUziAOXUaAqtt8P8HAQ

Benefits of Thai Marriage Visa

Siam Legal International offers service to process Marriage Visa to Thailand for UK citizens. This visa provides the following:

• Multiple-entry travel to Thailand.
• Valid for use for a period of 1 calendar year.
• The visa is renewable every year and can be renewed inside Thailand (applicant must meet the requirements for the visa renewal).
• Ability to apply for a work permit in Thailand.
• Permit to open bank (savings) account in Thailand.
• Ability to apply for Permanent Residency after renewals.

100% incorrect-not even nearly close?

Are you really going to argue this - it states you have the ability to apply - everyone has that, so what is your point?

A WP can even be applied for on a tourist visa, then used to obtain the non-b which allows you to apply for an extension of stay. The non-o can be used to extend for marriage, using the WP verified income to qualify - while the non-b cannot be used to extend for marriage, only work.

You stated marriage gives you a work permit - absolutely not true - anyone can apply - being married relaxes some restrictions (for some) but the normal rules still apply.

Believe me I have been complaining about this for many years, and if you do some research here you will see I am hardly on my own. Or don't believe it and pay someone to tell you what you want to hear...

Edited October 19, 2014 by ParadiseLost

[maidee]

i wonder what those men did when it was time to do an extention ????