Popular Post NeverSure Posted November 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2014 The public prosecutor of the public, Robert McCulloch, can now be rightfully and morally considered to be a criminal defense lawyer who enthusiastically took on the case of Darren Wilson and the Ferguson PD.. Ferguson Idiot Prosecutor's Speech Blames Everyone But Darren Wilson Ferguson prosecutor Robert McCulloch delivered a long-winded, smirking speech blaming social media, the media, journalists, neighborhood residents, and everyone else who isn't Darren Wilson, for Darren Wilson shooting and killing 18-year-old Michael Brown. It took McCulloch 10 minutes of hectoring before he revealed the panel had found no probable cause to indict Wilson, and the rest of the 45-minute speech, in which McCulloch seemed to be presenting evidence in Wilson's favor, felt a lot more like defense attorney's argument than a prosecutors. The very length of McCulloch's rambling statement, really, and the amount of evidence he felt compelled to argue against, was an argument that the case should have gone to trial. http://www.democrati...com/10025865934 http://gawker.com/fe...but-d-166297083 The Department of Justice in Washington found a (probable cause) prima facie case to investigate the Ferguson PD and the St Louis county PD for a practice and pattern of violations of the Constitution and US civil rights laws. DoJ has conducted prima facie investigations of 17 local police departments (there are 12,500 or so police departments in the country) and federal courts have found for DoJ in all 17, so the 17 PDs are operating under DoJ direct oversight. Another 35 to include Ferguson and St Louis county are currently being similarly investigated and I'm very confident DoJ will be 35 for another 35 because when the feds initial inquiry makes a prima facie finding, they know they have a strong case. DoJ is also conducing a separate investigation of whether Wilson violated Michael Brown's civil rights, which is a civil not a criminal investigation in which FBI investigators from DoJ are obtaining under oath virtually everything related to the case. The Brown family could file a civil case in United States District Court against Officer Wilson in which all relevant evidence will be sought including Wilson's still secret police report as well as videotapes related to the homicide killing. It will also allow them to question witnesses under oath, including police officers who arrived at the scene. The court hearings in a federal civil suit are public so everyone would be able to see all the evidence. Judicial proceedings and other investigative proceedings by federal authorities are only just beginning, to include the possibility the Brown family will find civil charges, and it is very highly unlikely Wilson will ever work as a cop again unless it's as a private security guard for a right wing group. Sour grapes today? You've been dead wrong all along and most of us knew it. You're still dead wrong so why not just give it a rest? The post is talking through its apeture my friend because I'd posted here a very long time ago that the fix wuz in, that Wilson would never be convicted or indicted on state charges and that is exactly what everyone is looking at right now as the in fact reality. Your rhetoric far exceeds your reality. Darren Wilson remains technically as a member of the Ferguson PD but all the while he's been searching the want ads knowing he must resign. But what the heck, Wilson is shopping around the networks both cable and broadcast to extend his 15 minutes into a bit longer of a flare. Darren Wilson has been meeting with network anchors: What the heck? Credit CNN’s Brian Stelter with a very big scoop. On today’s “Reliable Sources” media-news program, Stelter reported that “high-profile news anchors” have spoken in “secret locations” with Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson. The sessions have been off-the-record and, the way Stelter tells it, they’ve been auditions for one of the biggest exclusives of this century — namely, the sit-down talk with the elusive officer who killed Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., on Aug. 9. Some details exist. NBC News’s Matt Lauer, ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos, CBS News’s Scott Pelley and Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon of CNN have met with Wilson, according to Stelter. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/11/23/darren-wilson-has-been-meeting-with-network-anchors-what-the-heck/ Darren Wilson will never be safe working in that ghetto again because every thug in the area will want the cred of being the one who got him. There is no respect for the rule of law among many of those residents, and among some members of this forum. The US has the rule of law and a grand jury comprised of ordinary citizens determined that the shooting was justified. As has been reported here earlier, the grand jury had a buffet of things they could have charged Wilson with, down to and including just unlawful discharge of a firearm. After three months of working on this, they declined to charge anything. That doesn't stop those who would loot and burn, or those who would post nonsense from doing as they see fit, though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The public prosecutor of the public, Robert McCulloch, can now be rightfully and morally considered to be a criminal defense lawyer who enthusiastically took on the case of Darren Wilson and the Ferguson PD.. Ferguson Idiot Prosecutor's Speech Blames Everyone But Darren Wilson Ferguson prosecutor Robert McCulloch delivered a long-winded, smirking speech blaming social media, the media, journalists, neighborhood residents, and everyone else who isn't Darren Wilson, for Darren Wilson shooting and killing 18-year-old Michael Brown. It took McCulloch 10 minutes of hectoring before he revealed the panel had found no probable cause to indict Wilson, and the rest of the 45-minute speech, in which McCulloch seemed to be presenting evidence in Wilson's favor, felt a lot more like defense attorney's argument than a prosecutors. The very length of McCulloch's rambling statement, really, and the amount of evidence he felt compelled to argue against, was an argument that the case should have gone to trial. http://www.democrati...com/10025865934 http://gawker.com/fe...but-d-166297083 The Department of Justice in Washington found a (probable cause) prima facie case to investigate the Ferguson PD and the St Louis county PD for a practice and pattern of violations of the Constitution and US civil rights laws. DoJ has conducted prima facie investigations of 17 local police departments (there are 12,500 or so police departments in the country) and federal courts have found for DoJ in all 17, so the 17 PDs are operating under DoJ direct oversight. Another 35 to include Ferguson and St Louis county are currently being similarly investigated and I'm very confident DoJ will be 35 for another 35 because when the feds initial inquiry makes a prima facie finding, they know they have a strong case. DoJ is also conducing a separate investigation of whether Wilson violated Michael Brown's civil rights, which is a civil not a criminal investigation in which FBI investigators from DoJ are obtaining under oath virtually everything related to the case. The Brown family could file a civil case in United States District Court against Officer Wilson in which all relevant evidence will be sought including Wilson's still secret police report as well as videotapes related to the homicide killing. It will also allow them to question witnesses under oath, including police officers who arrived at the scene. The court hearings in a federal civil suit are public so everyone would be able to see all the evidence. Judicial proceedings and other investigative proceedings by federal authorities are only just beginning, to include the possibility the Brown family will find civil charges, and it is very highly unlikely Wilson will ever work as a cop again unless it's as a private security guard for a right wing group. Sour grapes today? You've been dead wrong all along and most of us knew it. You're still dead wrong so why not just give it a rest? The post is talking through its apeture my friend because I'd posted here a very long time ago that the fix wuz in, that Wilson would never be convicted or indicted on state charges and that is exactly what everyone is looking at right now as the in fact reality. Your rhetoric far exceeds your reality. Darren Wilson remains technically as a member of the Ferguson PD but all the while he's been searching the want ads knowing he must resign. But what the heck, Wilson is shopping around the networks both cable and broadcast to extend his 15 minutes into a bit longer of a flare. Darren Wilson has been meeting with network anchors: What the heck? Credit CNN’s Brian Stelter with a very big scoop. On today’s “Reliable Sources” media-news program, Stelter reported that “high-profile news anchors” have spoken in “secret locations” with Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson. The sessions have been off-the-record and, the way Stelter tells it, they’ve been auditions for one of the biggest exclusives of this century — namely, the sit-down talk with the elusive officer who killed Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., on Aug. 9. Some details exist. NBC News’s Matt Lauer, ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos, CBS News’s Scott Pelley and Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon of CNN have met with Wilson, according to Stelter. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/11/23/darren-wilson-has-been-meeting-with-network-anchors-what-the-heck/ Darren Wilson will never be safe working in that ghetto again because every thug in the area will want the cred of being the one who got him. There is no respect for the rule of law among many of those residents, and among some members of this forum. The US has the rule of law and a grand jury comprised of ordinary citizens determined that the shooting was justified. As has been reported here earlier, the grand jury had a buffet of things they could have charged Wilson with, down to and including just unlawful discharge of a firearm. After three months of working on this, they declined to charge anything. That doesn't stop those who would loot and burn, or those who would post nonsense from doing as they see fit, though. Everyone will see if the feds find anything according to the rule of law, as in the constitution which gives the federal government precedence over state law, in this instance the state of Missouri and its locality of Ferguson. Neither conservatives nor the far right have a monopoly on the rule of law. The trouble concerning the rule of law down there in Ferguson is that this may be the first time in American history a prosecutor successfully directed a grand jury to the absolute benefit of the defense and then went before the public to speak absolutely for the defense. The prosecutor for the defense McCulloch is 5 for 5 in going to a grand jury to exonerate police who have shot unarmed citizens. if he were a baseball player he'd be batting 1.000 but that often happens early in the baseball season which runs a full six months and brings every early phenom back down to earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zydeco Posted November 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2014 Interesting that most media outlets in the US have described the riots as "Anger and Frustration Erupts in Ferguson," instead of the way real news used to be reported, "Arson, Looting, and Rioting Erupt in Ferguson." Feelings and pop psychologizing replaces real reporting. Imagine earlier headlines using this criteria: "Anger and Frustration Erupts as Lee Harvey Oswald Views Kennedy Motorcade." "Religious Devotion Brings Flight School Students to NYC on 9/11." "Columbine Teens Succumb to Peer Pressure." "Nidal Hasan Reaches Psychological Breaking Point at Fort Hood." 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 In a world where politicians want to regulate social media and the internet for inflammatory speech and send people posting on a message board to jail, what will happen to Michael Brown's stepfather, who actually did participate in a riot and incite others around him to burn down buildings? Free pass or go to jail? http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-brown-stepfather-burn-down-20141125-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canman Posted November 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2014 I would have preffered 'Mr Brown', that would have shown some respect. Mr Brown attacked a police officer. How much respect does he deserve? unarmed mister brown was gunned down dead by a police officer sworn to serve and protect the public. although going off the photo just above officer wilson's wounds and injuries were clearly such that he felt his life was in danger so needed to pump 12 bullets at the unarmed mister brown. oh no wait hang on, he's got what looks like at worst a touch of sunburn. all US citizens deserve some level of respect and fair treatment, but young black males are not getting that. they are getting shot dead by white cops. if US cops killed white youths at the same rate they kill black youths they would kill 185 a week (source). and yet again the fox news propaganda machine will churn into overdrive and wonder why black people are rioting and blame it on lack of education as they usually do. it's obscene that this is happening in america in 2014. Fair enough on your point of view. Open a new thread on statistics and I'll give you 20 violent black crimes to every single violent crime committed by a non-black person. I'll also give you a run for your money on the lack of coverage by the major media outlets on hate speech protection of black civil rights leaders and such "terrorist" groups as the Black Panthers, and mostly the general population of black teens and preteens on Facebook and Twitter. Black people in the USA have been given quite enough leeway to get ahead. I don't have time to show the extremely uneven and unfair favoritism that have been given in advantages at all levels of living, working, educating, etc. in the USA, let alone seeking asylum there and other perks which allow them to immigrate to the USA and remain. The sole factor for their sorrows is themselves. They only have themselves to blame, whether they are quarreling from within or striking out at anyone who is not black. It's all about behavior and attitude, SH. And it all begins at home, from birth until the time they are able to step outside and see a white person or a police officer for the first time... and the same goes to white people for that matter? Totally different behaviors and attitudes reflected in the twain. Behavior and attitude. What is getting pumped into their heads before they are able to step outside and see a white person or a police officer for the first time... and the same goes to white people for that matter? Totally different behaviors and attitudes reflected in the twain. Why is it that when a white kid behaves and has an attitude like your average black kid, he sounds ridiculous, looks ridiculous and is an embarrassment to me and even to the blacks he is trying so hard to gain approval from? Both whites and blacks avoid him like he is someone's pet. Theirs. Why is it that when a black person behaves and has an attitude like your average white kid, he sounds rationale and is a joy to be around, and is accepted by me and the whites without trying at all to gain approval from us? Whites accept him and blacks reject him, abuse him physically and verbally and psychologically, and even murder him in some cases. Only in extreme cases do whites turn on whites. Moreover, we simply ignore this apparition of an embarrassment and shake our heads in disgust. With blacks, it is a hard, cold fact that a reckoning will come to any black that behaves like an "Uncle Tom", or "Cracker Lover". They even have labels for this. I do not know if whites have labels for this other than "ridiculous" or "idiot" or "loser". If I were to challenge you to a name competition, and to ask you to give similar names to the likes of such revered and quoted black figures as the very "Reverend" Al Sharpton, the very "Reverend" Jackson, "Dr." Muhammad Khalif, Khalid Abdul Muhammad, Louis Farrakhan, etc. (Note to self: look up the definition for "Terrorism" in the Oxford Dictionary again). You would only be able to dig into such white cesspool crack pots like Neo-Nazi leaders, etc. You would not find one white person in office who says the same things publicly on the major media channels that the majority of these blacks get to say... and do say. No... I think that your way of thinking is one of the major reasons that needs to be re-evaluated with factual, intellectual statistics and focus on behaviors and attitudes, and where those behaviors and attitudes originate from. Just my take on your views. Respect... Agree with your comments and would like to back them up by way of a link to Charles Barkleys recent comments: "For some reason we are brainwashed to think, if you're not a thug or an idiot, you're not black enough. If you go to school, make good grades, speak intelligent, and don't break the law, you're not a good black person. It's a dirty, dark secret in the black community." http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2014-10-26/charles-barkley Nothing will change in the US until there is some honest non PC dialog about the root cause of the black problem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NamKAheng Posted November 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2014 I see that the KKK support club is out in force here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I see that the KKK support club is out in force here. Why would you say that? Do people attack police officers in your country with impunity? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted November 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2014 You rob a store and beat up a cop, whatever colour you are you're fair game for getting shot in my book. It's called tough titties. It was just unfortunate the perp was black. What do they want, immunity? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The public prosecutor of the public, Robert McCulloch, can now be rightfully and morally considered to be a criminal defense lawyer who enthusiastically took on the case of Darren Wilson and the Ferguson PD.. Sour grapes today? You've been dead wrong all along and most of us knew it. You're still dead wrong so why not just give it a rest? The post is talking through its apeture my friend because I'd posted here a very long time ago that the fix wuz in, that Wilson would never be convicted or indicted on state charges and that is exactly what everyone is looking at right now as the in fact reality. Give it a break. Everyone who reads this forum regularly, knows that you only admitted that Officer Wilson would not be charged when it was leaked that the preponderance of evidence supported Officer Wilson's version of events and that he would be exonerated by the Grand Jury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKAheng Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I see that the KKK support club is out in force here. Why would you say that? Do people attack police officers in your country with impunity? When I say "here" it means here on TVF, I am talking about comment who generalized about all black people being criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I see that the KKK support club is out in force here. Why would you say that? Do people attack police officers in your country with impunity? When I say "here" it means here on TVF, I am talking about comment who generalized about all black people being criminal. Yes I got that. In your country do people attack police officers with impunity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted November 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2014 -snip- The trouble concerning the rule of law down there in Ferguson is that this may be the first time in American history a prosecutor successfully directed a grand jury to the absolute benefit of the defense and then went before the public to speak absolutely for the defense. You don't know what, during the three months which is usually more like one week, went on the grand jury hearing. Grand jury hearings are closed to the public except of course for any witnesses that are called. The prosecutor gave a speech before the public for reasons that were obvious to me as I heard it, even if you didn't get it. He came out to announce the decision, but prefaced it with reason. He was hoping to avoid riots. The only dog he had in the fight was to try to avoid or minimize riots which he knew were coming from the lawless. He didn't "speak for the defense." He gave the grand jury's reasons for their decision. BTW the decision was unanimous and 3 of the 12 were black. Those 3 blacks respected the rule of law. They heard all of the evidence for 3 months. Only people who didn't hear all of the evidence are going nuts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Only people who didn't hear all of the evidence are going nuts. Didn't hear it or don't care about it, because it contradicts their own agendas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKAheng Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I see that the KKK support club is out in force here. Why would you say that? Do people attack police officers in your country with impunity? When I say "here" it means here on TVF, I am talking about comment who generalized about all black people being criminal. Yes I got that. In your country do people attack police officers with impunity? No, but in my country there is a great chance that he would not have been shot, in fact I am pretty sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) You rob a store and beat up a cop, whatever colour you are you're fair game for getting shot in my book. It's called tough titties. It was just unfortunate the perp was black. What do they want, immunity? a) the store- robbery was not part of the deal and you very well know it! It is just a talking point, brought up by the right-wing media (Faux Noise). It had nothing to do, with Michael Brown being shot, because at the moment of the shooting, Officer Willson did not know about it! the "beat up a cop"- part is also not 100% cleared up, so... Try harder! Edited November 26, 2014 by DM07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You wrote, "I see that the KKK support club is out in force here." Why would you say that? Do people attack police officers in your country with impunity? When I say "here" it means here on TVF, I am talking about comment who generalized about all black people being criminal. Yes I got that. In your country do people attack police officers with impunity? No, but in my country there is a great chance that he would not have been shot, in fact I am pretty sure of that. So? In your country a policeman has the right to defend himself from an attacking person. That was my point. You can't be sure of anything unless the same thing happens. Skin color is meaningless except in this case the black folks think they can attack police officers in East St. Louis. It's the same reason the police and fire department didn't used to respond to calls on the South Side of Chicago in the projects. Black people shoot cops and fire department personnel in those places. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulysses G. Posted November 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) You rob a store and beat up a cop, whatever colour you are you're fair game for getting shot in my book. It's called tough titties. It was just unfortunate the perp was black. What do they want, immunity?a) the store- robbery was not part of the deal and you very well know it! It is just a talking point, brought up by the right-wing media (Faux Noise). It had nothing to do, with Michael Brown being shot, because at the moment of the shooting, Officer Willson did not know about it! Actually, Wilson DID know about the robbery. The evidence supports it and the prosecutor has admitted it. Wilson WAS injured and photos prove it. Please try to keep up and you can skip the stupid references to Fox News. They reported everything that you seem to have missed. Edited November 26, 2014 by Ulysses G. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Legal scholars praise Ferguson grand jury for fairness beyond the norm Legal experts across the country agree that while the process that led to a grand jury’s decision not to indict Officer Darren Wilson for killing Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, was unusual, it was not unfair. Rather if it was anything unusual, it was in its fairness and openness. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/25/legal-scholars-praise-ferguson-grand-jury-fairness/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 RAW COURAGE: Papa John’s Female Manager Defends Store From Looters With Bare Hands (Video) At the 1:10 marker the Ferguson Papa John’s manager confronts a looter with HER bare hands. (This was a woman!) http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/battle-ferguson-papa-johns-manager-defends-store-from-looters-with-bare-hands-video/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMNightRider Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You rob a store and beat up a cop, whatever colour you are you're fair game for getting shot in my book. It's called tough titties. It was just unfortunate the perp was black. What do they want, immunity? a) the store- robbery was not part of the deal and you very well know it! It is just a talking point, brought up by the right-wing media (Faux Noise). It had nothing to do, with Michael Brown being shot, because at the moment of the shooting, Officer Willson did not know about it! the "beat up a cop"- part is also not 100% cleared up, so... Try harder! Huh?? Brown being involved in a robbery and assaulting the store clerk is nothing more than a "right-wing media talking point"?? Moments later Brown attacks an on duty police officer, and gets himself shot. (Faux Noise)??? Interesting post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Why would you say that? Do people attack police officers in your country with impunity? When I say "here" it means here on TVF, I am talking about comment who generalized about all black people being criminal. Yes I got that. In your country do people attack police officers with impunity? No, but in my country there is a great chance that he would not have been shot, in fact I am pretty sure of that. But none of this happened or is still ongoing in your country (wherever that is), now did it? Your comments are off topic and, quite frankly, add nothing to the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You rob a store and beat up a cop, whatever colour you are you're fair game for getting shot in my book. It's called tough titties. It was just unfortunate the perp was black. What do they want, immunity? a) the store- robbery was not part of the deal and you very well know it! It is just a talking point, brought up by the right-wing media (Faux Noise). It had nothing to do, with Michael Brown being shot, because at the moment of the shooting, Officer Willson did not know about it! the "beat up a cop"- part is also not 100% cleared up, so... Try harder! Huh?? Brown being involved in a robbery and assaulting the store clerk is nothing more than a "right-wing media talking point"?? Moments later Brown attacks an on duty police officer, and gets himself shot. (Faux Noise)??? Interesting post. It is, in the context of this case. Michael Brown was not stopped for robbing a store, he was stopped for jaywalking. There are as many witness account for an attack on the officer as there are against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted November 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) You rob a store and beat up a cop, whatever colour you are you're fair game for getting shot in my book. It's called tough titties. It was just unfortunate the perp was black. What do they want, immunity? a) the store- robbery was not part of the deal and you very well know it! It is just a talking point, brought up by the right-wing media (Faux Noise). It had nothing to do, with Michael Brown being shot, because at the moment of the shooting, Officer Willson did not know about it! the "beat up a cop"- part is also not 100% cleared up, so... Try harder! Huh?? Brown being involved in a robbery and assaulting the store clerk is nothing more than a "right-wing media talking point"?? Moments later Brown attacks an on duty police officer, and gets himself shot. (Faux Noise)??? Interesting post. Two points in the Grand Jury report reveals that Officer Wilson knew of the robbery by radio report and of the aggravated actions and of the description of Brown as the robber... I suggest to anyone - go read the Grand Jury Report ... The only 'Faux' noise is the grunting of the Deniers Also there are photographs of Wilson's face after the beating... and a complete testimony of the struggle for the gun in the car... and the firing of the weapon into a door panel as a part of the struggle. Skeptics - Go read the Grand Jury Report Edited November 26, 2014 by JDGRUEN 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You rob a store and beat up a cop, whatever colour you are you're fair game for getting shot in my book. It's called tough titties. It was just unfortunate the perp was black. What do they want, immunity? a) the store- robbery was not part of the deal and you very well know it! It is just a talking point, brought up by the right-wing media (Faux Noise). It had nothing to do, with Michael Brown being shot, because at the moment of the shooting, Officer Willson did not know about it! the "beat up a cop"- part is also not 100% cleared up, so... Try harder! Huh?? Brown being involved in a robbery and assaulting the store clerk is nothing more than a "right-wing media talking point"?? Moments later Brown attacks an on duty police officer, and gets himself shot. (Faux Noise)??? Interesting post. It is, in the context of this case. Michael Brown was not stopped for robbing a store, he was stopped for jaywalking. There are as many witness account for an attack on the officer as there are against. Brown was in fact stopped for walking in the middle of the road with his 'bro' - Wilson told them to move to the side of the street. Brown made some slurs to Wilson ... Only a few seconds later - the radio call came in ... then Wilson pursued based on the robbery report. GO READ the Grand Jury Report. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You rob a store and beat up a cop, whatever colour you are you're fair game for getting shot in my book. It's called tough titties. It was just unfortunate the perp was black. What do they want, immunity? a) the store- robbery was not part of the deal and you very well know it! It is just a talking point, brought up by the right-wing media (Faux Noise). It had nothing to do, with Michael Brown being shot, because at the moment of the shooting, Officer Willson did not know about it! the "beat up a cop"- part is also not 100% cleared up, so... Try harder! Try harder? Shall I put it in bold type and pretty colours for you to better understand? I'd read on the BBC about the officer knowing about the robbery beforehand and also the perp attacking him and bruising his face. You really should make the effort yourself, or, better still, remove head from sand. There are plenty of fora out there for your to troll on, or join the resident nutters on YouTube, just stop messing up this site with tripe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted November 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2014 Mark Levin on Ferguson: 'What We Are Witnessing Now Is the Left's War on the Civil Society' What we are witnessing now is the left's war on the civil society. It's time to speak out in defense of law enforcement and others trying to protect the community and uphold the rule law. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/25/Mark-Levin-What-we-are-witnessing-now-is-the-lefts-war-on-the-civil-society 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up-country_sinclair Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 ^ Yeah, let's make this a left/right hyper-partisan event too. Isn't it possible that this is just a case of two not so intelligent people crossing paths in the wrong place at the wrong time? A stupid kid who should have known better and not mouthed off to the police officer. He definitely shouldn't have approached the police car and forced the door closed as the testimony indicates he did. A police officer who should have handled the situation more professionally. Either way, on the street, the police officer is always right. If you've got a complaint, file a lawsuit. You don't attempt to fight with a police officer on the street because more likely than not you're going to end up dead or in the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CMNightRider Posted November 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2014 You rob a store and beat up a cop, whatever colour you are you're fair game for getting shot in my book. It's called tough titties. It was just unfortunate the perp was black. What do they want, immunity? a) the store- robbery was not part of the deal and you very well know it! It is just a talking point, brought up by the right-wing media (Faux Noise). It had nothing to do, with Michael Brown being shot, because at the moment of the shooting, Officer Willson did not know about it! the "beat up a cop"- part is also not 100% cleared up, so... Try harder! Huh?? Brown being involved in a robbery and assaulting the store clerk is nothing more than a "right-wing media talking point"?? Moments later Brown attacks an on duty police officer, and gets himself shot. (Faux Noise)??? Interesting post. It is, in the context of this case. Michael Brown was not stopped for robbing a store, he was stopped for jaywalking. There are as many witness account for an attack on the officer as there are against. Well, think about what you said for a moment. It wouldn't have made any difference if Officer Wilson, stopped Brown to sell him tickets to the policeman's ball. It was Brown's actions that ended up getting him shot. I will guarantee you, police in America, do not get up in the morning and think about killing anyone. When they are not protecting the public or fighting crime, they think about the pension they are going to receive once their career is over. I would venture to say, most of the police haters on this site, wouldn't be able to get through the hiring process to become a police officer, especially the psychological testing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted November 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2014 ^ Yeah, let's make this a left/right hyper-partisan event too. Isn't it possible that this is just a case of two not so intelligent people crossing paths in the wrong place at the wrong time? A stupid kid who should have known better and not mouthed off to the police officer. He definitely shouldn't have approached the police car and forced the door closed as the testimony indicates he did. A police officer who should have handled the situation more professionally. Either way, on the street, the police officer is always right. If you've got a complaint, file a lawsuit. You don't attempt to fight with a police officer on the street because more likely than not you're going to end up dead or in the hospital. The article is not about Brown and Wilson put the systematic politicization of the event to turn it into a people's movement - cranking up the aggrieved - Holder's role in this is in prime spotlight -- a Leftist gone crazy rabble rousing at ever turn -- that is why the author spoke as he did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Replying to post #179 by CM Nightrider: I am not hating anyone, not even racist coppers. It DOES matter, by the way, why he was stopped, because action triggers reaction! But of course, you know that, don't you? It doesn't sit too well, with the population of a mainly "black" community, when they got stopped for no obvious reason by a mainly "white" police- force. Come to think about it: I assume you know, but you couldn't care less, because the one time in your live that you got stopped by a cop, you didn't bother. Come back, when you get stopped over and over and over again, by a cop for no obvious reason and tell me again, that it doesn't matter! I would ask you, to walk a mile in the shoes of an African- American, being subjected to racial profiling. But I guess, it makes no sense, because...racism in the US simply doesn't exist...right?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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