Details from bomb probe secret: city police chief

[Lite Beer]

Details from bomb probe secret: city police chief
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Details from interviews of witnesses or people with knowledge about the pipe bombs near Siam Paragon last Sunday are state secrets and must remain confidential, Metropolitan Police Bureau commissioner Lt-General Sriwara Ransibrahmanakul said yesterday.

Police are obtaining further clues into the bomb attacks while gathering relevant evidence, and expected to secure arrest warrants for more suspected accomplices in the next few days, he said. Warrants have already been issued for the two suspects seen in surveillance camera footage.

There are three groups of suspects in the bomb attacks - masterminds, bomb-makers and the men who planted and detonated the explosives. The officer said identifying and catching the bomb planters or detonators would be most difficult but finding the masterminds would result in all accomplices being caught eventually.

A key meeting to get updates on the latest progress of the investigation is due to be held at 2pm today at the MPB.

Royal Thai Police spokesman Lt-General Prawut Thawornsiri said one of the two suspects seemed to have a bad right leg, judging from his manner when seen walking in the footage from Sunday night. The appearance of this man, not identified by the alias "Dragon", and special character of his potentially bad right leg matched no profile of criminals on police records.

A security source said a number of men likely to have knowledge about past incidents of political violence had been in military custody for extensive questioning. This unknown number of men, reportedly belonging to three groups with political connections, are now in safe houses and being questioned extensively, the source said.

Another source commented that these men belonged to a political group that had been affected politically by the coup and were still active. There were more details such as similarity in the material and assembly techniques used on the pipe bombs last Sunday, and those used in bomb attacks at 10 locations across Bangkok on New Year's Eve in 2006, in response to the coup in September of that year, the source said.

Police have also found the drivers of two tuk-tuks that refused to take both suspects, who hailed them, to get details about destinations the two men wanted to go to.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Details-from-bomb-probe-secret-city-police-chief-30253582.html

-- The Nation 2015-02-07

[chooka]

Oops guess the suspects aren't red shirts then. Hush,hush secrets. The guy who posted on social media has been public ally identified as a red-shirt.

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

I can agree too that the findings during the investigation process should be hold secret but why does they have to remain confidential?

[Reigntax]

It will be kept secret until we have fabricated a story which will then be announced. You will then believe it and not question our fiction......I mean story......I mean the facts.

[MaxLee]

Details from bomb probe secret: city police chief

FACE savvy B******AAAATCHES!!!!!!!

[Fiddlesticks]

Masterminds! In Thailand? Those are words seldom seen in the same sentence.

[BSJ]

You guys have cracked me up this morning!

[AGareth2]

nasty little secrets?

[Caveat Emptor]

Anything known to the BIB won't remain secret for very long, it's just not in their makeup not to talk.

[arthurboy]

However, in a follow up statement, Lt-General Sriwara did say - why smiling smugly to himself - that, ''This secret and confidential information will not prevent us or other junta mouthpieces from publicly speculating on who the offenders are or their motives for carrying out this bombing.''

[NongKhaiKid]

Anything known to the BIB won't remain secret for very long, it's just not in their makeup not to talk.

Any minute now ...

[BigBadGeordie]

State secrets, no access to legal representation, interogation at safe houses, control of information. Ah the STASI is alive and well and fully functional within the Kingdom.

[noitom]

"Secret Thai probes" in to public bombings in popular tourists locations should make everyone feel very secure about Thai security and that we are all in good hands with Thais.

[DLock]

So we are looking for 2 guys nicknamed "Dragon" and "The Gimp".

Shouldn't be too hard.

[robblok]

Oops guess the suspects aren't red shirts then. Hush,hush secrets. The guy who posted on social media has been public ally identified as a red-shirt.

Quite possible who knows.. might be better to wait a bit. But if they really do keep it a secret then even a junta lover like me will smell a rat. But on the other hand they might have learned something.. that its better to keep things a secret during an investigation. That is the way professional police forces work. I think chooka can vouch for that.

[KIWIBATCH]

and the secret is...."we wouldn't have a clue who these two men are or where to find them"

[rickirs]

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Oops guess the suspects aren't red shirts then. Hush,hush secrets. The guy who posted on social media has been public ally identified as a red-shirt.

Quite possible who knows.. might be better to wait a bit. But if they really do keep it a secret then even a junta lover like me will smell a rat. But on the other hand they might have learned something.. that its better to keep things a secret during an investigation. That is the way professional police forces work. I think chooka can vouch for that.

Then you can also vouch for the police use of secret safe houses and being questioned "extensively" also as professional police work. Given the Junta has the nation still under martial lawlessness, human rights are a danger to national security. There is no check and balance to police behavor except to the dictates of the Junta.

[robblok]

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Oops guess the suspects aren't red shirts then. Hush,hush secrets. The guy who posted on social media has been public ally identified as a red-shirt.

Quite possible who knows.. might be better to wait a bit. But if they really do keep it a secret then even a junta lover like me will smell a rat. But on the other hand they might have learned something.. that its better to keep things a secret during an investigation. That is the way professional police forces work. I think chooka can vouch for that.

Then you can also vouch for the police use of secret safe houses and being questioned "extensively" also as professional police work. Given the Junta has the nation still under martial lawlessness, human rights are a danger to national security. There is no check and balance to police behavor except to the dictates of the Junta.

Summary of previous post.. if its a red-shirt I wont believe it. I will only believe it if its positive for me.

[Baerboxer]

Oops guess the suspects aren't red shirts then. Hush,hush secrets. The guy who posted on social media has been public ally identified as a red-shirt.

Really, the RTP should keep their gobs shut on all cases and end their habit of continually making contradictory speculative to the media. We saw how stupid that can be on the Koh Tao murders.

Only when they have something factual to say should the police, and politicians, comment on cases.

[Baerboxer]

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Oops guess the suspects aren't red shirts then. Hush,hush secrets. The guy who posted on social media has been public ally identified as a red-shirt.

Quite possible who knows.. might be better to wait a bit. But if they really do keep it a secret then even a junta lover like me will smell a rat. But on the other hand they might have learned something.. that its better to keep things a secret during an investigation. That is the way professional police forces work. I think chooka can vouch for that.

Then you can also vouch for the police use of secret safe houses and being questioned "extensively" also as professional police work. Given the Junta has the nation still under martial lawlessness, human rights are a danger to national security. There is no check and balance to police behavor except to the dictates of the Junta.

And of course under PTP the RTP were very professional, honest, truthful and enforced the law fairly without favor and protected and served all the citizens

After all, the senior ones were hand picked by Dr. Pol Lt Col Thaksin himself.

How does that work btw? A criminal fugitive on the run from a prison sentence and an array of serious charges, selecting the senior police officers?

[Baerboxer]

"Secret Thai probes" in to public bombings in popular tourists locations should make everyone feel very secure about Thai security and that we are all in good hands with Thais.

I don't see many police forces, security agencies around the world making every step on their investigations public. Do you? They normally wait until after catching suspects and completing the investigation.

I don't see many governments making G2G commercial deals state secrets, well I guess if they are lies they have to be secret.

[Baerboxer]

State secrets, no access to legal representation, interogation at safe houses, control of information. Ah the STASI is alive and well and fully functional within the Kingdom.

Nothing like the STASI - or the Securitate and others of similar ilk.

State secrets - like those pretend G2G rice sales, or the actual rice scheme accounts you mean?

[Baerboxer]

It will be kept secret until we have fabricated a story which will then be announced. You will then believe it and not question our fiction......I mean story......I mean the facts.

Jutaporn has already explained it all - and he wouldn't lie would he?

[Docno]

"This unknown number of men, reportedly belonging to three groups with political connections, are now in safe houses and being questioned extensively, the source said."

Safe houses? Safe from whom? Those nasty foreign human rights NGOs that might question what is meant by 'questioned extensively'. Weren't the two Burmese suspects on Koh Tao taken to a safe house for a beating interrogation also?

[Alwyn]

"Secret Thai probes" in to public bombings in popular tourists locations should make everyone feel very secure about Thai security and that we are all in good hands with Thais.

I don't see many police forces, security agencies around the world making every step on their investigations public. Do you? They normally wait until after catching suspects and completing the investigation.

I don't see many governments making G2G commercial deals state secrets, well I guess if they are lies they have to be secret.

I was thinking exactly the same when I read your comment. I can only speak for a couple of countries but in the UK for example, the police will not give details of ongoing investigations - unless it is for am operational purpose of course and those details will be well strategized in advanced. They certainly don't say "tomorrow we'll be checking up on fly-tipping (for example) in the Hertfordshire town of Ware".. The media will be given information appropriate to the cause, not more, They would not announce "our investigations are secret" either!! lol.. You would already know that in a normal country!

[Baerboxer]

"Secret Thai probes" in to public bombings in popular tourists locations should make everyone feel very secure about Thai security and that we are all in good hands with Thais.

I don't see many police forces, security agencies around the world making every step on their investigations public. Do you? They normally wait until after catching suspects and completing the investigation.

I don't see many governments making G2G commercial deals state secrets, well I guess if they are lies they have to be secret.

I was thinking exactly the same when I read your comment. I can only speak for a couple of countries but in the UK for example, the police will not give details of ongoing investigations - unless it is for am operational purpose of course and those details will be well strategized in advanced. They certainly don't say "tomorrow we'll be checking up on fly-tipping (for example) in the Hertfordshire town of Ware".. The media will be given information appropriate to the cause, not more, They would not announce "our investigations are secret" either!! lol.. You would already know that in a normal country!

Yep. Remember the furor caused when someone in the police "leaked" the raid on Sir Cliff Richard's house to the BBC? Officers have been fined. imprisoned and dismissed for doing things like that.

You just don't see that with the professional police forces in the developed world. But there again, they don't buy their ranks and postings and aren't expected to supplement their earnings and those of their bosses.

[Alwyn]

"Secret Thai probes" in to public bombings in popular tourists locations should make everyone feel very secure about Thai security and that we are all in good hands with Thais.

I don't see many police forces, security agencies around the world making every step on their investigations public. Do you? They normally wait until after catching suspects and completing the investigation.

I don't see many governments making G2G commercial deals state secrets, well I guess if they are lies they have to be secret.

I was thinking exactly the same when I read your comment. I can only speak for a couple of countries but in the UK for example, the police will not give details of ongoing investigations - unless it is for am operational purpose of course and those details will be well strategized in advanced. They certainly don't say "tomorrow we'll be checking up on fly-tipping (for example) in the Hertfordshire town of Ware".. The media will be given information appropriate to the cause, not more, They would not announce "our investigations are secret" either!! lol.. You would already know that in a normal country!

Yep. Remember the furor caused when someone in the police "leaked" the raid on Sir Cliff Richard's house to the BBC? Officers have been fined. imprisoned and dismissed for doing things like that.

You just don't see that with the professional police forces in the developed world. But there again, they don't buy their ranks and postings and aren't expected to supplement their earnings and those of their bosses.

You, you're right - that's the difference between amateur and professional police. It was much the same in Brasil but to a lesser extent (in my experiece). Didn't have your insurnce document in the car? 50 Reals, tudobem!