Don Mega Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 yeah, very old and worn rails Have you ever watched proper pick-up racing. OK they spend a little more on their trucks but you get the idea I'm sure. You mentioned racing again, now you lost everybody, they don't spend a whole lot more on their suspension, many use the same as they'd use on the street when lowering. The front runners spend a lot of money on suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Ironically look what a quick search popped up? http://www.alltruckracing.com/pickup-truck-racing.html Note the signage in the background? Though it's a western website.. Lowered but not a "low rider", easily driven on the street and likely, being Thailand, was driven to this race like most are. FYI I did not even search Thailand pick up truck racing when this came up.. How about this jpeg? See any pickup trucks in this jpeg that might be lowered but still streetable? That answer is, ALL OF THEM.. These were searched for Thailand, it's fact that a large portion of these was driven there as well. They actually have to be registered to drive on the road. Get it now? Which of those are registered for road use and driven there ? None of the front runners I can guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) Ironically look what a quick search popped up? http://www.alltruckracing.com/pickup-truck-racing.html Note the signage in the background? Though it's a western website.. Lowered but not a "low rider", easily driven on the street and likely, being Thailand, was driven to this race like most are. FYI I did not even search Thailand pick up truck racing when this came up.. How about this jpeg? See any pickup trucks in this jpeg that might be lowered but still streetable? That answer is, ALL OF THEM.. These were searched for Thailand, it's fact that a large portion of these was driven there as well. They actually have to be registered to drive on the road. Get it now? Which of those are registered for road use and driven there ? None of the front runners I can guarantee. Actually, there are no special rules for race cars in TH. All cars must be registered for road use. Strange yes, but also true, Any of these can be legally driven on public roads. Edited July 22, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) Ironically look what a quick search popped up? http://www.alltruckracing.com/pickup-truck-racing.html Note the signage in the background? Though it's a western website.. Lowered but not a "low rider", easily driven on the street and likely, being Thailand, was driven to this race like most are. FYI I did not even search Thailand pick up truck racing when this came up.. How about this jpeg? See any pickup trucks in this jpeg that might be lowered but still streetable? That answer is, ALL OF THEM.. These were searched for Thailand, it's fact that a large portion of these was driven there as well. They actually have to be registered to drive on the road. Get it now? Which of those are registered for road use and driven there ? None of the front runners I can guarantee. Actually, there are no special rules for race cars in TH. All cars must be registered for road use. Strange yes, but also true, Any of these can be legally driven on public roads. Nope, wrong. None of the Group one cars are road registered, infact most are here on temp import permits for race use. I know first hand atleast 3 pickups that run the TSS super pickup series that do not even have chassis numbers as they were built from brand new replacement body shells. Edited July 22, 2015 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Fully agree. I know this is about pickups or utes as we call them back home, and guess who invented them, the Aussies from Ford Australia and it was first sold in 1934. An Aussie pig farmer's wife might be the one commonly attributed to suggesting the 'ute', but pickups came along way before then... there was even one based on the Ford Model T... Yes, you are correct, my apologies to the yanks, they had a pickup, we had the ute. It appears that Chevrolet made one in 1918, if you could call it that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Nope, wrong. None of the Group one cars are road registered, infact most are here on temp import permits for race use. I know first hand atleast 3 pickups that run the TSS super pickup series that do not even have chassis numbers as they were built from brand new replacement body shells. Interesting - now I'm curious though - where are they importing these Thai made pickups from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Nope, wrong. None of the Group one cars are road registered, infact most are here on temp import permits for race use. I know first hand atleast 3 pickups that run the TSS super pickup series that do not even have chassis numbers as they were built from brand new replacement body shells. Interesting - now I'm curious though - where are they importing these Thai made pickups from? Hmmm I thought you was clued up on the Thai auto industry but I'll let you in on a little secret, all the big players (ford/Mazda/Izuzu/toyota/Chevrolet) make bodies locally. win win for all, no need to import. Edited July 23, 2015 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Nope, wrong. None of the Group one cars are road registered, infact most are here on temp import permits for race use. I know first hand atleast 3 pickups that run the TSS super pickup series that do not even have chassis numbers as they were built from brand new replacement body shells. Interesting - now I'm curious though - where are they importing these Thai made pickups from? Why would you need to import Thai made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Nope, wrong. None of the Group one cars are road registered, infact most are here on temp import permits for race use. I know first hand atleast 3 pickups that run the TSS super pickup series that do not even have chassis numbers as they were built from brand new replacement body shells. Interesting - now I'm curious though - where are they importing these Thai made pickups from? Why would you need to import Thai made? Or an even better question, how do you race a Thai made pickup in Thailand, without DLT registration, because it's here on a temporary import permit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Nope, wrong. None of the Group one cars are road registered, infact most are here on temp import permits for race use. I know first hand atleast 3 pickups that run the TSS super pickup series that do not even have chassis numbers as they were built from brand new replacement body shells. Interesting - now I'm curious though - where are they importing these Thai made pickups from? Why would you need to import Thai made? Or an even better question, how do you race a Thai made pickup in Thailand, without DLT registration, because it's here on a temporary import permit? What makes you think the thai made pickup is here on a temp import permit ? seems to me you are confusing yourself but to be clear you said "Actually, there are no special rules for race cars in TH. All cars must be registered for road use." My reply to that is most of the group one cars are on temp import..... you know, them ferraris/porsches/audis/chevrolets/holdens etc etc etc. Are you telling me they are not on temp imports but are infact legally taxed and road registered in Thailand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) What makes you think the thai made pickup is here on a temp import permit ? seems to me you are confusing yourself but to be clear you said "Actually, there are no special rules for race cars in TH. All cars must be registered for road use." My reply to that is most of the group one cars are on temp import..... you know, them ferraris/porsches/audis/chevrolets/holdens etc etc etc. Are you telling me they are not on temp imports but are infact legally taxed and road registered in Thailand ? Sorry mate, given the thread topic, and the photos of race pickups, and the question of how many of these could be driven on the road, that's the context I was working under Edited July 23, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Thank you. It's just that I have never seen in any of the manufactures brochures a "low rider" option, so I wasn't sure if they had been done as an aftermarket option or from the factory. I know the ones you mean and it hasn't really been clearly answered for you whether they come from the factory as low as that. Myself, I have always thought that it was a "to look cool" thing. yeaaaaa! 39 posts to get to the answer. it looks cool. now lets add 'it happens all over the world' to the thread. coming up next- why do they stick plastic film which is designed to look like carbon fibre all over their cars? 'because it looks cool' why do they do anything at all to alter the appearance of their cars? 'because it looks cool' why do they fill half the ampur with black smoke when they pull away from the lights? 'because it looks........ well actually that looks pretty dumb as its unburnt fuel but to them it 'looks cool' You missed my point. I was asking if the low ride versions came from the factory like that, and the answer is, some models do and some don't. I wasn't particularly interested in the aftermarket modded versions by boy racers, but the low ride factory pickups. Ya, it seems most here missed your point, what was it again? !@#$%%$$............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I know the ones you mean and it hasn't really been clearly answered for you whether they come from the factory as low as that. Myself, I have always thought that it was a "to look cool" thing. yeaaaaa! 39 posts to get to the answer. it looks cool. now lets add 'it happens all over the world' to the thread. coming up next- why do they stick plastic film which is designed to look like carbon fibre all over their cars? 'because it looks cool' why do they do anything at all to alter the appearance of their cars? 'because it looks cool' why do they fill half the ampur with black smoke when they pull away from the lights? 'because it looks........ well actually that looks pretty dumb as its unburnt fuel but to them it 'looks cool' You missed my point. I was asking if the low ride versions came from the factory like that, and the answer is, some models do and some don't. I wasn't particularly interested in the aftermarket modded versions by boy racers, but the low ride factory pickups. They're not low ride models, they're normal, regular ride models. The others are raised up. This has got to be the most ridiculous thread in motoring forum history. One more on my "ignore" list I'm surprised you're allowed you to say that, I wasn't? Agree 100% though, the Op was never capable of even relating to the forum what his perception of "lowered" was and then got snooty with anyone who posted to try to set him straight which was his OP in the first place. Should have left this thread to the few who understand his unique form of comprehension. I see I'm not alone, I'll practice that in the future and let him figure out his own way with his "unique" questions................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 They're not low ride models, they're normal, regular ride models. The others are raised up. This has got to be the most ridiculous thread in motoring forum history. One more on my "ignore" list It was a pretty innocent question, that just got a bit out of control. The OP went out and bought a pickup w/out even understanding the range of options available. Lucky for him he landed on his feet with a heavily discounted Triton Plus @OP: No offense No, I didn't I well researched what I wanted before I bought and am perfectly happy with my choice. I would not have been the slightest bit interested in purchasing a low ride model. My question, 7 months after I bought the Triton, is because a neighbour has in fact a low ride model, and I wanted to know if it could have come from the factory like that or been modified after. With some of the more sensible answers I've received, it appears that he has a modified pickup. Does that clear it up for you IMHO? I really wasn't having "a go" at you, mate. All good A bit on the thin edge that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 yeah, very old and worn rails Have you ever watched proper pick-up racing. OK they spend a little more on their trucks but you get the idea I'm sure. You mentioned racing again, now you lost everybody, they don't spend a whole lot more on their suspension, many use the same as they'd use on the street when lowering. The front runners spend a lot of money on suspension. My point was so do many street tuners. so not such a difference price wise on many race trucks versus street trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Ironically look what a quick search popped up? http://www.alltruckracing.com/pickup-truck-racing.html Note the signage in the background? Though it's a western website.. Lowered but not a "low rider", easily driven on the street and likely, being Thailand, was driven to this race like most are. FYI I did not even search Thailand pick up truck racing when this came up.. How about this jpeg? See any pickup trucks in this jpeg that might be lowered but still streetable? That answer is, ALL OF THEM.. These were searched for Thailand, it's fact that a large portion of these was driven there as well. They actually have to be registered to drive on the road. Get it now? Which of those are registered for road use and driven there ? None of the front runners I can guarantee. Really? Since when Spooner? It was always required in the street tuner classes that they had to be able to be registered and that was a requirement just like the other spec classes. I've personally seen many of them drive there with tires in the back and then leave after the race driving on the street with tags. But.. That isn't the point is it? That's just an argument and my post isn't limited to the "front runners" and quite frankly has nothing to do with the post in it's entirety, it's about the ride height. Edited July 23, 2015 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Ironically look what a quick search popped up? http://www.alltruckracing.com/pickup-truck-racing.html Note the signage in the background? Though it's a western website.. Lowered but not a "low rider", easily driven on the street and likely, being Thailand, was driven to this race like most are. FYI I did not even search Thailand pick up truck racing when this came up.. How about this jpeg? See any pickup trucks in this jpeg that might be lowered but still streetable? That answer is, ALL OF THEM.. These were searched for Thailand, it's fact that a large portion of these was driven there as well. They actually have to be registered to drive on the road. Get it now? Which of those are registered for road use and driven there ? None of the front runners I can guarantee. Actually, there are no special rules for race cars in TH. All cars must be registered for road use. Strange yes, but also true, Any of these can be legally driven on public roads. Nope, wrong. None of the Group one cars are road registered, infact most are here on temp import permits for race use. I know first hand atleast 3 pickups that run the TSS super pickup series that do not even have chassis numbers as they were built from brand new replacement body shells. Group 1 race cars are race cars, not made for street tuner classes and therefore not part of the post, either mine or IMHO. Spooner, stop being so pedantic and difficult, no one is speaking about those, that's just trolling, we're not stupid. Regardless of who they paid to get their rules superseded the general rules require registered vehicles, it is Thailand after all, rules are all too often bent or waved in favor of certain competitors, one massive reason I wouldn't waste my time to compete there unless I was associated with a higher end Thai team, but that created it's own obstacles. The technicality we ALL know about here is that they are MANUFACTURED for the road and could/should be registered, first and foremost. I'll not continue this off topic conversation over such pedantic nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What makes you think the thai made pickup is here on a temp import permit ? seems to me you are confusing yourself but to be clear you said "Actually, there are no special rules for race cars in TH. All cars must be registered for road use." My reply to that is most of the group one cars are on temp import..... you know, them ferraris/porsches/audis/chevrolets/holdens etc etc etc. Are you telling me they are not on temp imports but are infact legally taxed and road registered in Thailand ? Sorry mate, given the thread topic, and the photos of race pickups, and the question of how many of these could be driven on the road, that's the context I was working under Obviously some missing the tongue in cheek, sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Oh Giddyup, look what you have done. A simple question has turned into a 5 page nightmare. And shock, horror, no one has blamed the boss yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Synchronized Swimming is its Twinned Sport.....Dont know why though , as the Swimming Competitors are really worth knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Warpspeed I'm surprised you're allowed you to say that, I wasn't? Agree 100% though, the Op was never capable of even relating to the forum what his perception of "lowered" was and then got snooty with anyone who posted to try to set him straight which was his OP in the first place. Should have left this thread to the few who understand his unique form of comprehension. I see I'm not alone, I'll practice that in the future and let him figure out his own way with his "unique" questions................................. Ya, it seems most here missed your point, what was it again? !@#$%%$$............... You still here? Thought this post was "ignorant and trolling" according to you, yet you keep coming back for more.Pretty obvious who the troll is. Edited July 23, 2015 by giddyup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Familyonthemove Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Synchronized Swimming is its Twinned Sport.....Dont know why though , as the Swimming Competitors are really worth knowing. I'm getting confused now ...... is synchronized swimming twinned with pick-up truck racing or do synchronized swimmers have different ride heights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Dont know, but they both finish upside down eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Oh Giddyup, look what you have done. A simple question has turned into a 5 page nightmare. And shock, horror, no one has blamed the boss yet. Obviously not simple enough for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Rather sums up the O.P... But its been fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Oh Giddyup, look what you have done. A simple question has turned into a 5 page nightmare. And shock, horror, no one has blamed the boss yet. Obviously not simple enough for some. Or too hard for the simple ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 images6PZ5N8OF.jpg Rather sums up the O.P... But its been fun. I'll have to start more of these pointless posts, seems to get more responses that the meaningful ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Warpy and IMHO, I need to apologize to both of you as you are both correct about the rego stuff. There was some guys from TSS at my work today inspecting a race car and I took the opportunity to ask about the rego stuff. He said they all need to be road registered in Thailand to be eligible to race with the exception of vehicles here on temp import papers for race purposes. I asked about the vehicles that are not taxed and road registered and/or have no vin numbers..... he just said money talks and winked. So with hat in hand I humbly offer you both an apology, you were both correct and I was very much wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Warpy and IMHO, I need to apologize to both of you as you are both correct about the rego stuff. There was some guys from TSS at my work today inspecting a race car and I took the opportunity to ask about the rego stuff. He said they all need to be road registered in Thailand to be eligible to race with the exception of vehicles here on temp import papers for race purposes. I asked about the vehicles that are not taxed and road registered and/or have no vin numbers..... he just said money talks and winked. So with hat in hand I humbly offer you both an apology, you were both correct and I was very much wrong. No love lost, mate. All good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Warpy and IMHO, I need to apologize to both of you as you are both correct about the rego stuff. There was some guys from TSS at my work today inspecting a race car and I took the opportunity to ask about the rego stuff. He said they all need to be road registered in Thailand to be eligible to race with the exception of vehicles here on temp import papers for race purposes. I asked about the vehicles that are not taxed and road registered and/or have no vin numbers..... he just said money talks and winked. So with hat in hand I humbly offer you both an apology, you were both correct and I was very much wrong. Stand up post, regards and respect.. Edited July 23, 2015 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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