raincoatedlover Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Hello! jobsdb.com has a lot of it jobs.. But do they ever want a farang working? Anyone here (farang) who have experience from success with jobsdb? Happy for all sorts of replies. //nisse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendix Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Why not apply and find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I am one of the advertisers and no, farangs generally aren't wanted. There's a bunch of reasons - we don't want the hassle & cost of getting visas & work permits - we don't want to pay above local rates - we don't want to employ people who may not fit into the office culture - locals can do the job adequately Pedro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Jones Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I am one of the advertisers and no, farangs generally aren't wanted. There's a bunch of reasons - we don't want the hassle & cost of getting visas & work permits - we don't want to pay above local rates - we don't want to employ people who may not fit into the office culture - locals can do the job adequately Pedro No chance of a job with u Pedro??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaihome Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I am one of the advertisers and no, farangs generally aren't wanted. There's a bunch of reasons - we don't want the hassle & cost of getting visas & work permits - we don't want to pay above local rates - we don't want to employ people who may not fit into the office culture - locals can do the job adequately Pedro -If we need a Farang, we bring one in from another office or hire through local job shop (hint, try JST) TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) JobsDB, or any other jobs website for that matter, is not a particularly good way for a farrang to find IT work here. Let me know if you want more help / guidance. Edited November 16, 2006 by dantilley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raincoatedlover Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 JobsDB, or any other jobs website for that matter, is not a particularly good way for a farrang to find IT work here.Let me know if you want more help / guidance. Dantilley, if you could help me or guide me, I would be more than happy! The places I look now is stickmanbangkok.com, thaivisa and bangkok post and the nation.. Is there anymore known sources? Do u guys know if it maybe would be better to go for Singapore? And if so, is jobsdb a good location then? I really like jobsdb, its smart and useful.. But nobody wants me! Anyway thanks for helping out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raincoatedlover Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 JobsDB, or any other jobs website for that matter, is not a particularly good way for a farrang to find IT work here. Let me know if you want more help / guidance. Dantilley, if you could help me or guide me, I would be more than happy! The places I look now is stickmanbangkok.com, thaivisa and bangkok post and the nation.. Is there anymore known sources? Do u guys know if it maybe would be better to go for Singapore? And if so, is jobsdb a good location then? I really like jobsdb, its smart and useful.. But nobody wants me! Anyway thanks for helping out I have searched for an IT position on and off for about 3 years now and have had 1 interview. My personal opinion is that unless you are a real guru and know every programming language/architecture backwards and forwards AND have senior level management experience, there is almost no chance of scoring an IT job in thailand. Thai programmers will happily work for 20k baht a month. Even if you do get a position, unless you were sent here by a company back home I'm not sure if the pay here will be worth it to justify the long hours that most IT jobs demand. I knew one guy who was in an IT job here and ended up going back to teaching english! Ive been considering teaching.. the problem is that I'm from Sweden and I'm not a native speaker.. I dont even know if I can get work like that or if they will pay me even smaller or something.. and I dont have the tefl either.. is there other non-native english speakers here that teach english here that could shed some light on the subject? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spee Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hello!jobsdb.com has a lot of it jobs.. But do they ever want a farang working? Anyone here (farang) who have experience from success with jobsdb? Happy for all sorts of replies. //nisse A little OT but hopefully you will find it beneficial .... (aside from all the cultural/language/office environment aspects and speaking in a very general context) For what it's worth from someone who does IT/Telecom/Networking for a living, on average the typical IT jobs in Thailand are going to pay roughly about 50% of what one might expect in the UK or western Europe, and 30-40% of what one might expect in the US. If you want bigger bucks, then be prepared to try to hook up with a big American or European firm on an expat deal and (for the most part) be prepared to work somewhere else other than Thailand (e.g., Singapore, HK, Tokyo, etc.). For these kinds of jobs, you will almost always need to have significant relevant experience in the specific industry of the hiring business (e.g., banking, petroleum, etc.), and possibly the local language as well. Then there is also the competition from other candidates, visa issues, etc. If you look long enough and hard enough, then you are bound to find exceptions, but by and large this is what I've seen in recent job searches. There are also lots of other good international search engines like monster, etc. In general, most successful online job searches are the result of volume effort rather than looking for the perfect slot. Everyone does automated CV crunching now. So if you want to improve your hit rate, then you have to volume dump CV's into as many job shops as possible, and you have to have all the right buzzwords in your CV or you won't even get through the robot filters to a real person for the second level screening. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwamrakmaimeeraka Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hello!jobsdb.com has a lot of it jobs.. But do they ever want a farang working? Anyone here (farang) who have experience from success with jobsdb? Happy for all sorts of replies. //nisse I would suggest that you become good friends with many Thai people. Friends are more important than qualifications and it is certainly how I got my job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 JobsDB, or any other jobs website for that matter, is not a particularly good way for a farrang to find IT work here. Let me know if you want more help / guidance. Dantilley, if you could help me or guide me, I would be more than happy! The places I look now is stickmanbangkok.com, thaivisa and bangkok post and the nation.. Is there anymore known sources? Do u guys know if it maybe would be better to go for Singapore? And if so, is jobsdb a good location then? I really like jobsdb, its smart and useful.. But nobody wants me! Anyway thanks for helping out Well, I wouldn't go down the route of JobsDB.com or any other recruitment web site for finding IT work. Much more important is to connect with the actual decision makers themselves on a personal level, and this is achieved through networking. Each week there are two, three or maybe even more networking events that you can go to. Essentially, these are like big parties, except that there is an underlying business element to all socialising that goes on. You will leave any of these events with a stack of business cards, so the following day sit down and start emailing the people you met who might be useful contacts for you. This way you can pick up bits of freelance work, or maybe even a proper job. Eventually, as you network more and become known around town more (the Bangkok network is very tight) things should start to happen for you. This is as long as you are good at what you do, and have a professional and hard-working attitude. If you're in Thailand for the full moon parties and / or the girly bars then forget it! You need to have work as your number one priority here and, if that's evident, then savvy employers will recognise this and be more likely to employ you. Other good things to do would be to contact your Chamber of Commerce (you're Swedish, right?) and also the other "major" ones such as UK, USA, Australian, German (maybe), Canadian... these are good sources of advice, but I wouldn't go as far as actually joining any as the joining fees are pretty high. They can also give you lists of all companies registered on their books, so for any IT ones you find you can start sending emails directly to them. Get a good CV, draft a good, professional looking covering letter and start getting your name out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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