webfact Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Mother of slain German gets help from Thailand tourism industry Phuket Gazette Volker Schwartges, 46, was killed in cold blood and left for dead behind a music venue in Chaweng. Photos: Gazette file KOH SAMUI: More than two years after his murder, the alleged killers of a Düsseldorf man named Volker Schwartges are finally set to appear in judicial courts, after official letters of complaint from Germany have put pressure on Thailand’s government. The 46-year-old Mr Schwartges was attacked by at least four young Samui locals at about 6am on August 20, 2014. Mr Schwartges was kicked, beaten with bottles and bled out in the parking lot behind a music venue in Chaweng, after having his throat slit with a knife. While the venue has since been closed by the police and the army, for two years there was little word about the case progressing in Thai courts, although ‘Der Farang’ newspaper repeatedly reported on “paralyzed police and judicial processing” holding up the prosecution of Mr Schwartges’ murder. Although the Royal Thai Embassy in Berlin had responded to an inquest two years ago, according to the ‘Düsseldorfer Express’ newspaper, and the investigations had been forwarded to the public prosecutor’s office in Koh Samui in November 2014, the case never made it to court. The perpetrators, including the main suspect, a 17-year-old, did not spend a single night behind bars. Full story: http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Mother-slain-German-gets-help-Thailand-tourism/65738?desktopversion#ad-image-0 -- © Copyright Phuket Gazette 2016-10-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Diabolical crime, and am not only talking about the senseless, brutal murder either. The rats that did this should be in the dankest, dirtiest cell possible rotting for decades. Appalling ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 A lot of crimes do not make it to the press. http://www.farang-deaths.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikotin Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, lostinisaan said: A lot of crimes do not make it to the press. http://www.farang-deaths.com/ not so much crimes there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebruce Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Shocking or what.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 In the original new stories some two years ago, the police had both witnesses and CCTV of the incident, which happened where motorbikes were parked, and caused by some brawl about young Thai lads sitting on (or occupying) a motorbike belonging to the German, who was a bar-owner in Chaweng. Quote ...According to witnesses, the deceased and his Thai girlfriend were in the parking lot of a nightclub on Chaweng Beach when they encountered three teenagers sitting and drinking alcohol on the German's motorcycle . The German man reportedly became angry and began arguing with the teenagers. The three Thais lost their temper, punched the German in his face, beat him with beer bottles, and stabbed his neck with shards of glass, witnesses said. The suspects fled the scene after the attack, witnesses told police. Medical workers say the victim died from stabbing wounds... (Khaosod English, 20-08-2014) The now closed venue "Sound Club" had nothing to do with the motorbike parking area, but was a late night disco with both local and foreign visitors; the German victim had visited Sound Club that night, according to the local news. The motorbike parking area was, and still is, in front of another small club, next to a beer-bar and opposite other beer-bars, in the back area of Chaweng's major legendary disco. It's not really a motorbike parking, but often used as waiting and pick-up place by motorbike taxis; and some foreigners park their bikes also – I have a couple of times noticed the motorbike taxi drivers get irritated over that – at late night there furthermore use to be a street kitchen parked, motorbike with sidecar, selling BBQ sticks at that spot; so some folks can be hanging out right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Legendary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, evadgib said: Legendary? More like Notorious! Why is Green Mango Club "notorious"..? – for most tech-music-freaks it's "The" Green Mango; I've even been together with Brits that almost cry, when they finally walk through the entrance to this legendary place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Memo to all Don't get angry with Thai's let them sit on your bike It was not worth the price he paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Remind me not to go there? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 53 minutes ago, monkey4u said: Memo to all Don't get angry with Thai's let them sit on your bike It was not worth the price he paid + 1 Just don't get upset and play the hero. They never fight alone, I was there, done that and I almost got killed by 5 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 hours ago, nikotin said: not so much crimes there... Please read a few more deaths and you might change your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 One post removed.... this has nothing to do with Burmese ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, lostinisaan said: + 1 Just don't get upset and play the hero. They never fight alone, I was there, done that and I almost got killed by 5 of them. ++1, especially for 'don't get upset'. And yes, never 'play'. Just be aware - and prepared of course - then 5 of them aren't a big deal either ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madusa Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 In every country there are dangers you just have to know. Don't tell me the young punks in Scotland with their steel tipped boots will not kick me if I show them the middle finger. When the pubs close in Scotland if you are Asian(like me) you better get a taxi and get the <deleted> out of there before any skinhead appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 56 minutes ago, madusa said: In every country there are dangers you just have to know. Don't tell me the young punks in Scotland with their steel tipped boots will not kick me if I show them the middle finger. When the pubs close in Scotland if you are Asian(like me) you better get a taxi and get the <deleted> out of there before any skinhead appear. Off topic somewhat. I've not read many reports of Scots ganging up and murdering people, Asians or other, for sitting on parked motor bikes after loosing your temper because the owner tells you to move. Nor have I read reports of mass gangs of marauding skinheads in Scotland making racist attacks. Did read of some second generation Asians murdering a young Scot and setting him on fire. This was about some youths, drinking underage, possibly doing drugs, savagely murdering a guy who dared tell them to get off his motorbike. A foreigner, with a Thai gf and perceived to have more wealth than them no doubt influenced their decision. Plus the fact that the police normally can't be bothered to do much about it. Keep the pressure on German government. Without it they'll let it simply fade away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 4 hours ago, lostinisaan said: + 1 Just don't get upset and play the hero. They never fight alone, I was there, done that and I almost got killed by 5 of them. That's terrible, you must have been very seriously hurt, what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubster Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Happy Grumpy said: When you move to the jungle, be aware that the locals are savages. And the rules are jungle rules. Not in the outsider's favour. Yeah thats right and I beat feet here when trouble starts, its no place to be a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooo Upto Me Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 13 hours ago, khunPer said: Why is Green Mango Club "notorious"..? – for most tech-music-freaks it's "The" Green Mango; I've even been together with Brits that almost cry, when they finally walk through the entrance to this legendary place... U must live a sheltered life. A legendary club haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 A number of Thai bashing and insulting or nonsense posts removed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 6 hours ago, Sooo Upto Me said: U must live a sheltered life. A legendary club haha "A legendary club". Your better ask the crying Brits about that – I'm pretty unsheltered – or are you just not enlightened enough to ever having heard about any of the Worlds legendary clubs..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzmurray Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 On 10/20/2016 at 10:32 PM, gdgbb said: That's terrible, you must have been very seriously hurt, what happened? Unfortunately Lostinisaan just makes up a lot of what he posts - this is probably yet another of his fabrications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Seems there are members here who think they are smart with their off topic remarks and just being plain rude trolling.. showing no respect to the deceased. Several more off topic remarks removed. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 If the mother were to ask the question to relevant authorities as to why, "if" clearly recorded on cctv committing the crime, why these three boys are not behind bars i'd be fascinated to hear the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxninja Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 On 20/10/2016 at 4:32 PM, gdgbb said: That's terrible, you must have been very seriously hurt, what happened? Wouldn't take much notice, doubt it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bokningar Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 On 10/22/2016 at 9:10 AM, carmine said: If the mother were to ask the question to relevant authorities as to why, "if" clearly recorded on cctv committing the crime, why these three boys are not behind bars i'd be fascinated to hear the explanation. Not sure that what they would say will make us any wiser. I rather have the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felt 35 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 On 20.10.2016 at 5:03 PM, monkey4u said: Memo to all Don't get angry with Thai's let them sit on your bike It was not worth the price he paid No by all means, show some respect let them sit there, give them the moped if it so be ,plus some money remember you are a guest here, and they are holy, by the way had the murdered correct color of the shirt that day is really the big question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Removed post ... just plain rubbish! Many other places in the world to avoid, before avoiding Samui... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipterocarp Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It sucks to come out and find "youfs" sitting on the hood of ones car (possibly scratching and denting).Not worth fighting/dieing over.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 This topic is not going anywhere.... Time to close until there is some news of consequence to the victim or his family .... Closed// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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