Musk Faces Scrutiny Over Belfast Riot Posts on X

5 hours ago, novacova said:

No matter how many times they’re reminded of this historical potential future, they deliberately ignore it and forget.

Those guys actually orchestrated the violence that I'm sure would be considered crimes against humanity today.

It's not just dictators. It takes lots of ordinary people to support his actions, by convincement or out of fear.

However, incitement to violence is not petty, anti-immigrant, antisemitism violence and so on. Attacking human beings because of their culture or religion or the colour of their skin.

Leon should have a lifelong ban from the UK.

On 6/14/2026 at 8:15 AM, James105 said:

I wasn't alive during the height of the British empire and nor were the tens of thousands of girls being raped by Pakistani rape gangs. Are you suggesting the rapes are justified then? Is that your hot take here?

The sheer amount of bigotry and racism displayed in this forum by individuals such as yourself who seem to lack the ability to carry out un-biased analysis of what the actual problems are that we are facing in the UK and elsewhere is staggering.

While any rape gang whether of Asian, African or English origin should be fully investigated and punished under all the laws available, why are you specifically singling out "Pakistani" rape gangs?

You don't think whites do these crimes? Just one example of hundres one can find if you were to use a little intelligence,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89g293zj2ko

But no, it doesn't echo your bigoted, racist opinion so you choose to ignore these crimes.

8 hours ago, mumin999 said:

While any rape gang whether of Asian, African or English origin should be fully investigated and punished under all the laws available, why are you specifically singling out "Pakistani" rape gangs?

Because for decades the Pakistani rape gangs were not fully investigated and punished. The authorities covered it up. Fathers of raped girls were arrested and raped underage girls were arrested for prostitution. This is now widely known and reported information. Educate yourself.

23 minutes ago, James105 said:

Because for decades the Pakistani rape gangs were not fully investigated and punished. The authorities covered it up. Fathers of raped girls were arrested and raped underage girls were arrested for prostitution. This is now widely known and reported information. Educate yourself.

A shocking situation that is now, thankfully, the subject of a Public Enquiry.

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

A shocking situation that is now, thankfully, the subject of a Public Enquiry.

Only because your hero Starmer's attempts to block it failed.

The sickening cretin that he is.

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Only because your hero Starmer's attempts to block it failed.

The sickening cretin that he is.

He waited until the Casey report had concluded and then accepted their recommendations.

35 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

He waited until the Casey report had concluded and then accepted their recommendations.

No he blocked it at every turn saying it wasn't necessary and previous reviews were sufficient - until he was forced into a corner and had no choice politically but to back down.

The coward.

On 6/15/2026 at 11:48 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

Ah, yes. We brought civilised thievery to the heathens. The British committed far more barbarity than any amount of immigrants could accomplish in the UK.

I should hope they'd bar Leon for inciting terrorism.

History isn't a balance sheet where only Britain's debits are allowed to be discussed.

The Empire deserves criticism for its failures and abuses, but it also left behind legal systems, infrastructure, institutions and economic foundations that many countries still use today.

And calling Elon Musk a terrorist without evidence only weakens your argument. Serious accusations require serious proof.

14 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

He waited until the Casey report had concluded and then accepted their recommendations.

Selective memory, you seem to have.

11 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

History isn't a balance sheet where only Britain's debits are allowed to be discussed.

The Empire deserves criticism for its failures and abuses, but it also left behind legal systems, infrastructure, institutions and economic foundations that many countries still use today.

And calling Elon Musk a terrorist without evidence only weakens your argument. Serious accusations require serious proof.

Sorry if you thought I singled out rails with them!Britain. All colonial govts are guilty of this. Yeah, perhaps they left behind some good but, my God, did they take hundreds of times more than they ever gave. They did not bear colonies out of charity! Only when I went to Mozambique, I learned, when the Portuguese left, they took their hospitals and railroad.

I did not call Musk a terrorist. I believe I called him a racist pig who believes his financial status gives him the right to incite violence, from DOGE to Belfast.

8 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

They did not bear colonies out of charity! Only when I went to Mozambique, I learned, when the Portuguese left, they took their hospitals and railroad.

So your best example of British colonial governments being evil is to use a non British colonial government as an example?

15 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I did not call Musk a terrorist. I believe I called him a racist pig who believes his financial status gives him the right to incite violence, from DOGE to Belfast.

So in the absence of any proof of Elon Musk inciting violence you chose to call him names and made up some beliefs on his behalf. Do you have literally any evidence of your claims or does your "knowledge" come from what other leftists have made up about him?

On 6/16/2026 at 10:15 AM, James105 said:

Because for decades the Pakistani rape gangs were not fully investigated and punished. The authorities covered it up. Fathers of raped girls were arrested and raped underage girls were arrested for prostitution. This is now widely known and reported information. Educate yourself.

The isssue that you and your ilk conveniently ignore is you ONLY talk about Pakistani rape gangs whilsts conveniently ignoring whites. You talk about 'decades the Pakistani rape gangs' comitted their atrrocities when the longest and most sustained amount of child abuse was committed by the church by almost exclusively white priests. From AI -

Roman Catholic Church (England and Wales)

The IICSA Roman Catholic Church Investigation Report covered a 45-year period between 1970 and 2015:

• 936 alleged perpetrators connected to the Church faced complaints, which included priests, monks, friars, and volunteers.

• 3,072 individual instances of child sexual abuse were formally logged through these complaints.

• 133 convictions resulted from 177 total prosecutions during this timeframe.

• 100+ new allegations have continued to be reported every year since 2016.

• Separately, a decade-long study reported by the BBC noted that 52 Catholic priests were defrocked for sexual abuse between 2001 and 2014, and 465 total sexual assault claims were lodged against clergy from 2003 to 2012.

Church of England (Anglican)

The inquiry's findings into the Church of England outlined pervasive failures to protect minors:

• 390 church figures, including ordained clergy and individuals in positions of trust, were convicted of child sexual offenses between the 1940s and 2018.

• 242 clergy members (who are still alive) were specifically named as alleged perpetrators in a wider BBC report on Church of England abuse, alongside dozens of church officers and volunteers.

• 449 concerns regarding active or recent child sexual abuse were raised directly to dioceses in 2018 alone.

And these numbers are reckoned to be just the tip of the iceberg but there's not a peep from any of you lot about any of this because of course it doesn't suit your racism.

27 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

The isssue that you and your ilk conveniently ignore is you ONLY talk about Pakistani rape gangs whilsts conveniently ignoring whites. You talk about 'decades the Pakistani rape gangs' comitted their atrrocities when the longest and most sustained amount of child abuse was committed by the church by almost exclusively white priests. From AI -

Roman Catholic Church (England and Wales)

The IICSA Roman Catholic Church Investigation Report covered a 45-year period between 1970 and 2015:

• 936 alleged perpetrators connected to the Church faced complaints, which included priests, monks, friars, and volunteers.

• 3,072 individual instances of child sexual abuse were formally logged through these complaints.

• 133 convictions resulted from 177 total prosecutions during this timeframe.

• 100+ new allegations have continued to be reported every year since 2016.

• Separately, a decade-long study reported by the BBC noted that 52 Catholic priests were defrocked for sexual abuse between 2001 and 2014, and 465 total sexual assault claims were lodged against clergy from 2003 to 2012.

Church of England (Anglican)

The inquiry's findings into the Church of England outlined pervasive failures to protect minors:

• 390 church figures, including ordained clergy and individuals in positions of trust, were convicted of child sexual offenses between the 1940s and 2018.

• 242 clergy members (who are still alive) were specifically named as alleged perpetrators in a wider BBC report on Church of England abuse, alongside dozens of church officers and volunteers.

• 449 concerns regarding active or recent child sexual abuse were raised directly to dioceses in 2018 alone.

And these numbers are reckoned to be just the tip of the iceberg but there's not a peep from any of you lot about any of this because of course it doesn't suit your racism.

You're making a comparison that doesn't actually address the point being discussed.

Nobody should minimise the industrial scale abuse carried out within the Catholic Church or the Church of England. It was horrific, it lasted for decades, and institutional cover-ups allowed countless children to be abused. Those responsible, regardless of race, profession or religion, deserve condemnation.

But acknowledging that doesn't mean other forms of organised child abuse should be ignored. The Pakistani grooming gang scandals are discussed because multiple independent reports found that, in a number of towns, there were repeated failures by police and local authorities to act, with concerns that fear of being labelled racist contributed to inaction. That's a specific institutional failure, just as the Church cover-ups were.

This isn't an either/or issue. If someone condemns church abuse but ignores organised grooming gangs, they're being selective. Equally, if someone focuses only on Pakistani grooming gangs while remaining silent about decades of abuse by predominantly white clergy, they're also being selective.

The consistent position is straightforward: condemn all organised child sexual abuse, wherever it occurs, hold institutions accountable when they cover it up, and stop using one scandal to deflect attention from another. Victims deserve better than having their suffering turned into a political point-scoring exercise.

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

And these numbers are reckoned to be just the tip of the iceberg

Those numbers you quoted are a drop in the ocean vs the 250,000 rapes estimated to have taken place by the (predominantly) Pakistani rape gangs with impunity over the last few decades. There were 11 year old girls taken to hospital by their rapists who were treated for pregnancies and STIs, all of which took place with no questions asked by the authorities and literally none of those involved in the cover ups have ever been held to account. The industrial sized scale of the rapes and corresponding cover ups is monumental compared to any kind of whataboutery you can possibly attempt to use to defend or minimize this.

These were children that were raped and tortured. Children. To attempt to minimize or deflect rather than face the uncomfortable truth that the UK has a very big problem with a very specific community that was able to mass organize rapes in 100s of towns in the UK with impunity due to their race is appalling.

3 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

You're making a comparison that doesn't actually address the point being discussed.

Nobody should minimise the industrial scale abuse carried out within the Catholic Church or the Church of England. It was horrific, it lasted for decades, and institutional cover-ups allowed countless children to be abused. Those responsible, regardless of race, profession or religion, deserve condemnation.

But acknowledging that doesn't mean other forms of organised child abuse should be ignored. The Pakistani grooming gang scandals are discussed because multiple independent reports found that, in a number of towns, there were repeated failures by police and local authorities to act, with concerns that fear of being labelled racist contributed to inaction. That's a specific institutional failure, just as the Church cover-ups were.

This isn't an either/or issue. If someone condemns church abuse but ignores organised grooming gangs, they're being selective. Equally, if someone focuses only on Pakistani grooming gangs while remaining silent about decades of abuse by predominantly white clergy, they're also being selective.

The consistent position is straightforward: condemn all organised child sexual abuse, wherever it occurs, hold institutions accountable when they cover it up, and stop using one scandal to deflect attention from another. Victims deserve better than having their suffering turned into a political point-scoring exercise.

I am not 'ignoring' anything. What the Pakistani grooming gangs did is equally abhorant. What I am pointing out though is how some posters on this forum ONLY point out the Pakistani gangs whilst completely ignoring equally abhorant acts by white people in the UK.

2 hours ago, James105 said:

Those numbers you quoted are a drop in the ocean vs the 250,000 rapes estimated to have taken place by the (predominantly) Pakistani rape gangs with impunity over the last few decades. There were 11 year old girls taken to hospital by their rapists who were treated for pregnancies and STIs, all of which took place with no questions asked by the authorities and literally none of those involved in the cover ups have ever been held to account. The industrial sized scale of the rapes and corresponding cover ups is monumental compared to any kind of whataboutery you can possibly attempt to use to defend or minimize this.

These were children that were raped and tortured. Children. To attempt to minimize or deflect rather than face the uncomfortable truth that the UK has a very big problem with a very specific community that was able to mass organize rapes in 100s of towns in the UK with impunity due to their race is appalling.

Well that took me all of 2 seconds to debunk. From The Journal -

'The estimated figure of 250,000 victims of predominantly Pakistani or South Asian grooming gangs is widely considered unreliable by independent fact-checkers and official bodies. The estimate is the result of flawed national extrapolations rather than concrete police data. The context and analysis of this statistic include:

• Origin of the Figure: This estimate was heavily cited by political figures like Lord Pearson of Rannoch (Baron Pearson) and echoed on social media. It was calculated by mathematically extrapolating the findings of localized reports—such as the Rotherham inquiry, which estimated roughly 1,400 victims—across the entire UK population.

• Statistical Inaccuracy: Fact-checking organizations like Full Fact have analyzed these claims, concluding that the math used for the 250,000 figure is completely unsupported. The MP who initially proposed similar high-end estimates has since stated her extrapolations were unreliable.

• Official Data: While the true number of victims remains unknown due to underreporting and flawed or missing ethnicity data, national authorities acknowledge that gang-based Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE) is widespread. An official audit by Baroness Louise Casey on GOV.UK highlighted that past authorities systematically failed to record the ethnicity of perpetrators or protect vulnerable children.

Research into the UK grooming gangs is complex, and specific national totals that single out the scale of offending strictly by ethnic background remain a point of fierce debate due to the limitations of official police datasets. For more on the statistical critiques, refer to the investigative breakdown by The Journal. https://www.thejournal.ie/250000-victims-of-grooming-gangs-in-the-uk-lord-pearson-of-rannoch-statistics-elon-musk-6596961-Jan2025/

And since the topic is about Musk, here's another example of the nonsense this idiot does and says -

Debunked: Estimate of 250,000 victims of UK ‘grooming gangs’ is based on bad stats

'That figure was one shared among inflammatory and misleading attacks by Elon Musk on the British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and his government. Musk claims Starmer’s government failed to protect children during sexual exploitation scandals (that had occurred under previous governments). Elon Musk launched a campaign on New Year’s Day on X, a social media platform, he owns. He has called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament, for Starmer to be jailed, and for the United States to “liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government”.

Musk also claimed that “a quarter million little girls were raped” by grooming gangs. Musk’s figure echoes that put forward by Malcolm Pearson (or Baron Pearson of Rannoch), who has repeatedly made claims that there were “upwards of 250,000 young white girls raped in this century, very largely by Muslim men, usually several times a day for years”.

The man has a racist agenda that includes incitement to violence for the UK population. Why you lot can't see this is beyond me.

https://www.thejournal.ie/250000-victims-of-grooming-gangs-in-the-uk-lord-pearson-of-rannoch-statistics-elon-musk-6596961-Jan2025/

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Well that took me all of 2 seconds to debunk. From The Journal -

'The estimated figure of 250,000 victims of predominantly Pakistani or South Asian grooming gangs is widely considered unreliable by independent fact-checkers and official bodies. The estimate is the result of flawed national extrapolations rather than concrete police data. The context and analysis of this statistic include:

• Origin of the Figure: This estimate was heavily cited by political figures like Lord Pearson of Rannoch (Baron Pearson) and echoed on social media. It was calculated by mathematically extrapolating the findings of localized reports—such as the Rotherham inquiry, which estimated roughly 1,400 victims—across the entire UK population.

• Statistical Inaccuracy: Fact-checking organizations like Full Fact have analyzed these claims, concluding that the math used for the 250,000 figure is completely unsupported. The MP who initially proposed similar high-end estimates has since stated her extrapolations were unreliable.

• Official Data: While the true number of victims remains unknown due to underreporting and flawed or missing ethnicity data, national authorities acknowledge that gang-based Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE) is widespread. An official audit by Baroness Louise Casey on GOV.UK highlighted that past authorities systematically failed to record the ethnicity of perpetrators or protect vulnerable children.

Research into the UK grooming gangs is complex, and specific national totals that single out the scale of offending strictly by ethnic background remain a point of fierce debate due to the limitations of official police datasets. For more on the statistical critiques, refer to the investigative breakdown by The Journal. https://www.thejournal.ie/250000-victims-of-grooming-gangs-in-the-uk-lord-pearson-of-rannoch-statistics-elon-musk-6596961-Jan2025/

"The frequently cited figure of 250,000 victims of predominantly Pakistani grooming gangs has not been substantiated by official national data.

It was derived from extrapolating findings from local inquiries to the whole UK, an approach that has been criticised by statisticians and fact-checkers as unsupported by available evidence.

However, the absence of reliable national figures should not be interpreted as evidence that the problem was small.

Multiple public inquiries have concluded that organised child sexual exploitation was widespread, that authorities repeatedly failed to protect victims, and that poor recording of offenders' ethnicity and institutional failures mean the true scale remains unknown.

Several local investigations also found that offenders of Pakistani heritage were disproportionately represented in certain organised grooming networks in some areas, although comprehensive national ethnicity data are lacking."

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Well that took me all of 2 seconds to debunk. From The Journal -

'The estimated figure of 250,000 victims of predominantly Pakistani or South Asian grooming gangs is widely considered unreliable by independent fact-checkers and official bodies. The estimate is the result of flawed national extrapolations rather than concrete police data. The context and analysis of this statistic include:

• Origin of the Figure: This estimate was heavily cited by political figures like Lord Pearson of Rannoch (Baron Pearson) and echoed on social media. It was calculated by mathematically extrapolating the findings of localized reports—such as the Rotherham inquiry, which estimated roughly 1,400 victims—across the entire UK population.

• Statistical Inaccuracy: Fact-checking organizations like Full Fact have analyzed these claims, concluding that the math used for the 250,000 figure is completely unsupported. The MP who initially proposed similar high-end estimates has since stated her extrapolations were unreliable.

• Official Data: While the true number of victims remains unknown due to underreporting and flawed or missing ethnicity data, national authorities acknowledge that gang-based Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE) is widespread. An official audit by Baroness Louise Casey on GOV.UK highlighted that past authorities systematically failed to record the ethnicity of perpetrators or protect vulnerable children.

Research into the UK grooming gangs is complex, and specific national totals that single out the scale of offending strictly by ethnic background remain a point of fierce debate due to the limitations of official police datasets. For more on the statistical critiques, refer to the investigative breakdown by The Journal. https://www.thejournal.ie/250000-victims-of-grooming-gangs-in-the-uk-lord-pearson-of-rannoch-statistics-elon-musk-6596961-Jan2025/

You are a Pakistani rape gang denier.

There were not 250,000 recorded cases as they were covered up so it has to be estimated. This is what happens when the industrial scale rape of young white girls by predominantly Pakistani muslim males is covered up on an industrial scale.

On 6/15/2026 at 5:57 PM, emptypockets said:

Then the law needs to be changed. This censorship of people's free speech needs to stop.

Wow, now four thunbs down for my comment about free speech.

Any of you cowards like to put up a cogent position why?

4 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

I am not 'ignoring' anything. What the Pakistani grooming gangs did is equally abhorant. What I am pointing out though is how some posters on this forum ONLY point out the Pakistani gangs whilst completely ignoring equally abhorant acts by white people in the UK.

And how do you think the Muslims would have reacted had the boot been on the other foot, and it was predominantly White males attacking and raping Pakistani girls?

Would they have stood for it? Like hell, they would, there would be demonstrations all over the UK, fully supported by the tree huggers and lefties blue and pink hair squads.

How would the Police have responded?

How would this leftist government and previous governments have responded?

There would have been no stone unturned to bring the White perpetrators to justice in record time.

There would have been no foot-dragging, there would have been no cover-ups, it would have been all over the front pages of the press, and the guilty paraded before the nation. This is quite the opposite of how these young, white girls have been treated.

Leading the charge would have been Starmer and Khan.

Two tier policing, and a two tier government, that will do anything to keep the Muslim votes.

2 hours ago, James105 said:

You are a Pakistani rape gang denier

And you lack reading comprehension.

And just so you know I’m immune to your straw man bollo@ks. I’ve said they were abhorrent. I was just questioning your made up figures. And they are made up. Obviously.

Now I understand none of you are too bright (you wouldn’t hold your position if you were) so I’ll explain this in terms you understand-

Blaming whole ethnicities and whole religions because of the actions of a few is equivalent to blaming ALL whites because of the KKK.

It’s that daft.

But you salivate over all of it. You find reasoning to your illogical racism/Islamophobia (take your pick) painting ALL Pakistanis because of the actions of a few. You look to find a reason that every single one of them is the same but you no doubt see yourself as an individual not characterised by the masses. A free thinker. An enlightened individual - one who sees that none of your disappointing life is their own fault but rather because of a few brown people.

And yet you miss who is stirring up this $hit. You listen to Tommy. You listen to Musk and you think they speak truth and you for some bizarre reason think have have something in common with these fu£king idiots?

They are part of a billionaire class (well not Tommy of course because he’ll sell his own mother for a tenner) who have literally told you how superfluous you are to their idea of their future because it’s all going to be AI and fuc&ing robots and you my friend are less needed than you are even now (hard to believe I know) but Just look how you are all falling for iit. How you are buying into this BS. How you have been conned into going against your very own interests.

But don't worry. We’re not all the pu$$ies you try and paint us as. And we outnumber you all massively. And now we have money (Gen X in the house) against you pauper Boomers.

We will not put up with your $hit any longer. And you will be held accountable.

34 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

And how do you think the Muslims would have reacted had the boot been on the other foot, and it was predominantly White males attacking and raping Pakistani girls?

Would they have stood for it? Like hell, they would, there would be demonstrations all over the UK, fully supported by the tree huggers and lefties blue and pink hair squads.

How would the Police have responded?

How would this leftist government and previous governments have responded?

There would have been no stone unturned to bring the White perpetrators to justice in record time.

There would have been no foot-dragging, there would have been no cover-ups, it would have been all over the front pages of the press, and the guilty paraded before the nation. This is quite the opposite of how these young, white girls have been treated.

Leading the charge would have been Starmer and Khan.

Two tier policing, and a two tier government, that will do anything to keep the Muslim votes.

Straw man <deleted>.

As usual.

On 6/15/2026 at 3:28 PM, emptypockets said:

Seems ublocktheplanet doesn't like free speech. Thanks for the thumbs down . You have hurt my feelings. The police are coming for you.

1 hour ago, emptypockets said:

Wow, now four thunbs down for my comment about free speech.

Any of you cowards like to put up a cogent position why?

Seriously, stop bleating about it, it's pathetic. The thumbs down means "disagree" so those people probably disagree with you. You don't have to write an essay, you can just disagree and move on. It's useful to see how many people agree or disagree with your posts, it is what they are there for. I sometimes do it if I have written my reasons before and don't want to repeat them, or if I don't have time, or if I can't be bothered but I want to register that I think the post is stupid and I disagree with it.

Do you ask everyone who gives you a thumbs up to explain why they agree with you? No. Exactly. So stop being a hypocrite.

And they are not even anonymous so why does disagreeing with you make someone a "coward"? It's pathetic.

It really gets my goat all the supposed adults whinging about downvotes. Man up.

219 page-long UK Rape Gang Inquiry report has just been published.

...Those of South Asian or Muslim identity are over represented when it comes to group based s-abuse..

Patrick Christys summarises the main points:

7 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Seriously, stop bleating about it, it's pathetic. The thumbs down means "disagree" so those people probably disagree with you. You don't have to write an essay, you can just disagree and move on. It's useful to see how many people agree or disagree with your posts, it is what they are there for. I sometimes do it if I have written my reasons before and don't want to repeat them, or if I don't have time, or if I can't be bothered but I want to register that I think the post is stupid and I disagree with it.

Do you ask everyone who gives you a thumbs up to explain why they agree with you? No. Exactly. So stop being a hypocrite.

And they are not even anonymous so why does disagreeing with you make someone a "coward"? It's pathetic.

It really gets my goat all the supposed adults whinging about downvotes. Man up.

Not worried about the thumbs down as such. What surprised me was those people dislike the concept of free speech.

8 hours ago, nexus7 said:

219 page-long UK Rape Gang Inquiry report has just been published.

...Those of South Asian or Muslim identity are over represented when it comes to group based s-abuse..

Patrick Christys summarises the main points:

Hardly an independent report 🤣 . And generally considered to be methodologically flawed regarding its use of unverified testimonies (not given under oath) and flawed statistical data. What it does do is reflect Rupert Lowe's personal biases and racism.

11 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Straw man <deleted>.

As usual.

Here we go, typical when you can't answer my points or respond coherently, to resort to abuse

Lefty clown.

11 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

And you lack reading comprehension.

And just so you know I’m immune to your straw man bollo@ks. I’ve said they were abhorrent. I was just questioning your made up figures. And they are made up. Obviously.

Now I understand none of you are too bright (you wouldn’t hold your position if you were) so I’ll explain this in terms you understand-

Blaming whole ethnicities and whole religions because of the actions of a few is equivalent to blaming ALL whites because of the KKK.

It’s that daft.

But you salivate over all of it. You find reasoning to your illogical racism/Islamophobia (take your pick) painting ALL Pakistanis because of the actions of a few. You look to find a reason that every single one of them is the same but you no doubt see yourself as an individual not characterised by the masses. A free thinker. An enlightened individual - one who sees that none of your disappointing life is their own fault but rather because of a few brown people.

And yet you miss who is stirring up this $hit. You listen to Tommy. You listen to Musk and you think they speak truth and you for some bizarre reason think have have something in common with these fu£king idiots?

They are part of a billionaire class (well not Tommy of course because he’ll sell his own mother for a tenner) who have literally told you how superfluous you are to their idea of their future because it’s all going to be AI and fuc&ing robots and you my friend are less needed than you are even now (hard to believe I know) but Just look how you are all falling for iit. How you are buying into this BS. How you have been conned into going against your very own interests.

But don't worry. We’re not all the pu$$ies you try and paint us as. And we outnumber you all massively. And now we have money (Gen X in the house) against you pauper Boomers.

We will not put up with your $hit any longer. And you will be held account

11 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Straw man <deleted>.

As usual.

You've written a long post full of insults, assumptions about my motives, and speculation about whom I supposedly listen to, but you've largely ignored what I actually said.

I questioned the reliability of a specific figure because evidence matters. Challenging an unsupported statistic is not the same as excusing the crimes. Those crimes were horrific, and those responsible should face the full force of the law, regardless of their ethnicity or religion.

Where we differ is that you seem determined to argue against positions I haven't taken. I haven't blamed every Pakistani or every Muslim, just as I wouldn't blame every white person for the crimes of the KKK or every Catholic for the actions of abusive priests. Individuals are responsible for their crimes.

At the same time, acknowledging that there have been cases where offenders from particular backgrounds were disproportionately represented in certain local grooming gang cases. Examining whether authorities failed to act because they feared accusations of racism is a legitimate subject of public debate. It is possible to discuss those issues without descending into collective blame.

The irony is that your post condemns stereotyping while stereotyping anyone who disagrees with you as racist, Islamophobic, a Tommy Robinson supporter, an Elon Musk follower, unintelligent, poor, and a "Boomer." That's a remarkable amount of prejudice packed into one comment.

If we're going to have this discussion, let's stick to evidence instead of caricatures. Insults don't strengthen an argument. Facts do.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that because you do what all ridiculous lefties do when they are losing a debate. That is to rant, throw the baby out with the bathwater, resort to attacks such as Nazi, Bigot, Straw man etc.

You need to grow up.

2 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

You've written a long post full of insults, assumptions about my motives, and speculation about whom I supposedly listen to, but you've largely ignored what I actually said.

I questioned the reliability of a specific figure because evidence matters. Challenging an unsupported statistic is not the same as excusing the crimes. Those crimes were horrific, and those responsible should face the full force of the law, regardless of their ethnicity or religion.

Where we differ is that you seem determined to argue against positions I haven't taken. I haven't blamed every Pakistani or every Muslim, just as I wouldn't blame every white person for the crimes of the KKK or every Catholic for the actions of abusive priests. Individuals are responsible for their crimes.

At the same time, acknowledging that there have been cases where offenders from particular backgrounds were disproportionately represented in certain local grooming gang cases. Examining whether authorities failed to act because they feared accusations of racism is a legitimate subject of public debate. It is possible to discuss those issues without descending into collective blame.

The irony is that your post condemns stereotyping while stereotyping anyone who disagrees with you as racist, Islamophobic, a Tommy Robinson supporter, an Elon Musk follower, unintelligent, poor, and a "Boomer." That's a remarkable amount of prejudice packed into one comment.

If we're going to have this discussion, let's stick to evidence instead of caricatures. Insults don't strengthen an argument. Facts do.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that because you do what all ridiculous lefties do when they are losing a debate. That is to rant, throw the baby out with the bathwater, resort to attacks such as Nazi, Bigot, Straw man etc.

You need to grow up.

You need to get your eyes checked and wind in your neck. I wasn't responding to you. I was responding to James 105 who was accusing me of being ".... a Pakistani rape gang denier'

Shall I start holding my breath now in anticipation of your apology?