Starmer Resigns as PM, Burnham Tipped to Succeed

16 hours ago, riclag said:

Is Burnham ready for the test, none of this local stuff ,A general election ,it serves as the ultimate democratic poll, giving a public thats been deeply suspicious of a failed progressive experimentation the power to decisively reject systemic progressive policies.

Especially when he called for one when the Tories changed leader.

Its his first test. Lets see if he is a man of his word or another labour liar.

15 hours ago, RayC said:

Of course, Jonathan.

I forgot that you playing 'Britain2026' from the comfort of your Sukhumvit pad gives you the full experience of what it is like to actually live in the UK currently.

In fact, you have an advantage over me; I don't own the game and have never been to, for example, Gloucester. You can simply tweak the software and, hey presto, you are there or anywhere else in the UK and therefore fully aware - and living - all the latest local problems😂🤦

Like I said its 2026. I don't need to walk around Gloucester (not sure why you chose there) to see the state of the economy, the protests, the political upheaval, the dissatisfaction with Labour.

I also have family there who I speak to at least once a week. I own property there (although not for long) and visit once a year for long enough to see what's happening.

This whole idea hat you have to be "on the streets" to know what a state the country is in is very outdated even by your standards Raymond.

I'm not waiting for my monthly letter from home delivered by carrier pigeon.

Even on this last announcement was a boring resignation speech, praising all his achievements “ which are all blatant lies” & not once acknowledging all his failures.

Twisted the reason to non admission why Labour has thrown him out.

What kind of PM blubbers on live TV. Pathetic man rotten to the core.

Good riddance!

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Like I said its 2026. I don't need to walk around Gloucester (not sure why you chose there) to see the state of the economy, the protests, the political upheaval, the dissatisfaction with Labour.

I also have family there who I speak to at least once a week. I own property there (although not for long) and visit once a year for long enough to see what's happening.

This whole idea hat you have to be "on the streets" to know what a state the country is in is very outdated even by your standards Raymond.

I'm not waiting for my monthly letter from home delivered by carrier pigeon.

So a yearly visit, a weekly conversation with family and ownership of a property - I'm not sure what mortar and bricks are going to tell you? - plus reading the articles on AN and (presumably) a bit of GB News and Spiked is enough to make you fully conversant with life in the UK? If you say so.

You're a bit like the armchair football fan, Jonathan. Yes, one can get an overview of the match (and enjoy it) by watching the TV coverage, but you cannot fully appreciate what is going on - live the experience' if you will - unless you are physically present at the match. Having said that, physically being at the match - like physically being in the country - isn't much use unless you approach things with an open mind.

Nb. Unfortunately but inevitably, there are many places in the UK which I haven't visited. Gloucester was a random choice: I would have thought that my use of, 'for example', inferred that but obviously not.

2 hours ago, RayC said:

So a yearly visit, a weekly conversation with family and ownership of a property - I'm not sure what mortar and bricks are going to tell you? - plus reading the articles on AN and (presumably) a bit of GB News and Spiked is enough to make you fully conversant with life in the UK? If you say so.

Of course its enough. Dealing with tenants, court cases, hearing about daily life, checking the Internet. Probably know more than someone like you who sits in a bedsit in Bexley reading The Guardian.

2 hours ago, RayC said:

You're a bit like the armchair football fan, Jonathan. Yes, one can get an overview of the match (and enjoy it) by watching the TV coverage, but you cannot fully appreciate what is going on - live the experience' if you will - unless you are physically present at the match. Having said that, physically being at the match - like physically being in the country - isn't much use unless you approach things with an open mind.

Good example. I dont need to attend matches to know the premier league is a higher standard than the Thai league. Or that Spurs were pants this season. Or that Michael Carrick was the wrong choice for United in the long term.

2 hours ago, RayC said:

Nb. Unfortunately but inevitably, there are many places in the UK which I haven't visited. Gloucester was a random choice: I would have thought that my use of, 'for example', inferred that but obviously not.

Should get out that bedsit more. Your rose tinted glasses might become clearer.

On 6/22/2026 at 7:48 PM, Tourist2 said:

100%.
The Yookay establishment wishes to fully and comprehensively destroy what are seen as right-wing values, such as nationalism, traditionalism, and religion. These things equip people with powerful personal and group identities, and present as competing loyalties to the state and their social engineers.

Hence, said state and social engineers wish to destroy them.

What the establishment wishes to do now is conflate right-wing values with the most distorted and grotesque exaggerations of such values, as were depicted in hugely popular programming, The Handmaid’s Tale (US) and Years and Years (UK).

In effect, they want to “prove” that being right-wing means being a virulently racist, misogynist, homicidal maniac, until we get to the point where people will be so horrified and disgusted by (what will be presented as) “right-wing ideology”, that to continue to call oneself right-wing will become akin to calling oneself a Nazi.

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Now consider the jackanory about a white Scottish man running around Glasgow with his top off stabbing brown people.

"right wing values such as nationalism, traditionalism, and religion"!

Such "right wing values" are reasons why the population has been dumbed down to the point where they need no grasp of critical thinking and only respond with hostile three or 4 word chants: "stop the boats", "oh Tommy Tommy", "want are (sic) country back".

Who was the world leader who shouted "I love the poorly educated"?

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Of course its enough. Dealing with tenants, court cases, hearing about daily life, checking the Internet. Probably know more than someone like you who sits in a bedsit in Bexley reading The Guardian.

Good example. I dont need to attend matches to know the premier league is a higher standard than the Thai league. Or that Spurs were pants this season. Or that Michael Carrick was the wrong choice for United in the long term.

Should get out that bedsit more. Your rose tinted glasses might become clearer.

Last time I lived in a bed-sit, John boy, was when I was in Halls of Residence at university. Try not to project your own sad existence onto me.

The UK in a seemingly continuous and continual state of flux, but during a two-week visit when you speak to your tenants and a few people down the pub you have more of a feel for the country than those who live in it. Oh to be that perceptive.

Re the football: Carrick's record as Man U manager is 12-2-2 but you somehow conclude that he will be a LT failure! Also I guess that you have never been to a match. If you had, you would realise that it gives a different, broader, more accurate perspective compared with the TV coverage.

(Incidentally, I'm a bit surprised that you have such a negative view of Bexley. Thought that you might like it as it's a bit of a Reform stronghold)

Britain seems like a rickety passenger plane where someone stands and shouts, "Everyone run to the back of the plane!"

And they do.

The pilot says, "why has the plane become difficult to fly?"

Them someone else stands and shouts, "Everyone run to the front of the plane!"

And the pilot is shouting, "What the heck is happening? The plane is uncontrollable!"

The destabilization caused by extreme views, that don't actually solve much and often make things worse, is society's bain and needs a politician who can calmly steer the government to a mutually beneficial goal.

Is Andy Burnham that man?

25 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Is Andy Burnham that man?

Nope just another WEF ...friend of Israel puppet.

On 6/22/2026 at 7:35 PM, Eric Loh said:

I am talking about diplomatic civility and mutual respect for global leaders.

That'll improve the life of most Brits.

I'm sure they will appreciate the diplomats.

Were not in the 1700 's anymore.

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Like I said its 2026. I don't need to walk around Gloucester (not sure why you chose there) to see the state of the economy, the protests, the political upheaval, the dissatisfaction with Labour.

I also have family there who I speak to at least once a week. I own property there (although not for long) and visit once a year for long enough to see what's happening.

This whole idea hat you have to be "on the streets" to know what a state the country is in is very outdated even by your standards Raymond.

I'm not waiting for my monthly letter from home delivered by carrier pigeon.

The establishment are implementing semmingly nonsensical policies (migrant hotels, freeing rapists, locking up people for social media posts etc) in order to create the chaos they need to crackdown on freedoms in the Yookay.

Once you undersatnd that, it ALL makes sense.

A watered down version of the survelliance tech that has been used in Gaza is ready to go.

But they need the excuse to use it so they are importing problems and stoking division.

The guy u are conversing with is a bored troll who lives off others reactions.
Maybe we could start a gofundme so he can go outside and buy a couple of happy hour beers and stops ****posting for an hour or 2

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

The establishment are implementing semmingly nonsensical policies (migrant hotels, freeing rapists, locking up people for social media posts etc) in order to create the chaos they need to crackdown on freedoms in the Yookay.

Once you undersatnd that, it ALL makes sense.

A watered down version of the survelliance tech that has been used in Gaza is ready to go.

But they need the excuse to use it so they are importing problems and stoking division.

The guy u are conversing with is a bored troll who lives off others reactions.
Maybe we could start a gofundme so he can go outside and buy a couple of happy hour beers and stops ****posting for an hour or 2

So the UK establishment's - the captains of industry? the government? the Elders of Zion? - agenda revolves around installing migrant hotels, freeing rapists and locking up its' citizens in order to curtail civil liberties: Presumably, this will then give the 'Establishment' an excuse to call a state of emergency and cancel elections? Right you are🤦 (Incidentally, why was Starmer removed from post by the establishment? Not moving things along quickly enough?)

I sincerely hope that you are trolling because if you are being serious you really do have a severe mental disorder.

4 hours ago, RayC said:

So the UK establishment's - the captains of industry? the government? the Elders of Zion? - agenda revolves around installing migrant hotels, freeing rapists and locking up its' citizens in order to curtail civil liberties: Presumably, this will then give the 'Establishment' an excuse to call a state of emergency and cancel elections? Right you are🤦 (Incidentally, why was Starmer removed from post by the establishment? Not moving things along quickly enough?)

I sincerely hope that you are trolling because if you are being serious you really do have a severe mental disorder.

Raymond, to be clear I don't care what u think or don';t think, and once I work out how to block u I will.

I suggest u do the same.
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Unfortunately I have a morbid fear that things are going to get a whole lot worse.

Maybe Starmer wasn't the best PM ever and his poll ratings weren't good but stabbing him in the back and appointing Burnham will change nothing except wiping Labour out at the next General Election just like the Tory's.

Whether people voted for Labour or not nobody likes the establishment Westminster elite that decide they are more important than the actual voters and will appoint whoever they like.

In other words to hell with their constituents and the UK electorate your vote means nothing.

Burnham could end up worse than Starmer - then what another change more uncertainty and disruption.

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

Raymond, to be clear I don't care what u think or don';t think, and once I work out how to block u I will.

I suggest u do the same.
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Music to my ears, Tourist.

Unfortunately, I cannot help you as I don't know how to block posters either (at least we have that much in common). Hopefully, someone with a greater understanding of this forum's functionality will be able to assist you sooner rather than later.

All the best.

10 hours ago, RayC said:

Music to my ears, Tourist.

Unfortunately, I cannot help you as I don't know how to block posters either (at least we have that much in common). Hopefully, someone with a greater understanding of this forum's functionality will be able to assist you sooner rather than later.

All the bes

See your User name on the top left of your screen, click, and scroll:

21 hours ago, RayC said:

Last time I lived in a bed-sit, John boy, was when I was in Halls of Residence at university. Try not to project your own sad existence onto me.

Didn't know they had bedsits in Victorian England. How many shillings a week was that?

21 hours ago, RayC said:

The UK in a seemingly continuous and continual state of flux, but during a two-week visit when you speak to your tenants and a few people down the pub you have more of a feel for the country than those who live in it. Oh to be that perceptive.

Yes. I talk to family and friends. They give me a good picture of what its like to be a hard working brit paying for immigrants and other people's children to appease stupid leftists.

21 hours ago, RayC said:

Re the football: Carrick's record as Man U manager is 12-2-2 but you somehow conclude that he will be a LT failure! Also I guess that you have never been to a match. If you had, you would realise that it gives a different, broader, more accurate perspective compared with the TV coverage.

Carrick is Solskjaer all over again. I guess thats the difference between me and you I am capable of pattern recognition. Mark my words he will do nothing of note now the players got the soft boss they wanted they'll get out the pipe and slippers.

Seen many a game at the Valley.

21 hours ago, RayC said:

(Incidentally, I'm a bit surprised that you have such a negative view of Bexley. Thought that you might like it as it's a bit of a Reform stronghold)

Nah the pubs are pony.

Post using degratory nicknames removed @Tourist2

44 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Didn't know they had bedsits in Victorian England. How many shillings a week was that?

I'm young at heart, Jonny, but mature enough to act my age. You obviously don't realise that the 'Yoof' that you hang around with are laughing at you rather than with you.

44 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yes. I talk to family and friends. They give me a good picture of what its like to be a hard working brit paying for immigrants and other people's children to appease stupid leftists.

'2nd hand Joe' and his incredible perception.

44 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Carrick is Solskjaer all over again. I guess thats the difference between me and you I am capable of pattern recognition. Mark my words he will do nothing of note now the players got the soft boss they wanted they'll get out the pipe and slippers.

Time will time but then you are always quick to write off people and things unless its Brexit which, of course, needs more time to deliver its benefits.

44 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Seen many a game at the Valley.

A spotter. I should have known. Champions League football is just around the same corner as the Brexit benefits😂

44 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Nah the pubs are pony.

Many are. Still some decent ones left.

24 minutes ago, RayC said:

I'm young at heart, Jonny, but mature enough to act my age. You obviously don't realise that the 'Yoof' that you hang around with are laughing at you rather than with you.

Hanging around with yoof? 🤔 Forgot your pills again Raymond?

24 minutes ago, RayC said:

'2nd hand Joe' and his incredible perception.

Its amazing what you can learn talking to real people instead of posting tosh on the Internet.

24 minutes ago, RayC said:

Time will time but then you are always quick to write off people and things unless its Brexit which, of course, needs more time to deliver its benefits.

I'll be correct again about Carrick at which point you'll deny ever having mentioned it. 😃

24 minutes ago, RayC said:

Many are. Still some decent ones left.

You don't strike me as much of a pub goer Raymond. Do they hold WI meetings there or something? 😀

On 6/22/2026 at 7:23 PM, rocketboy2 said:

I did like Kier Starmer's, farewell speech. enjoy

I try to stay on Topic but somtimes i wonder off but watching videos by this guy Andrew Lawrence is so funny he has his own channel in U TUBE. This One below is favourite and so funny Police Inspector Peter Pisspot from T wat Valley Police.

makes ya larf

starmer didnt act on jimmy saville the worst peado of all time thats where he will be remembred

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Its amazing what you can learn talking to real people instead of posting tosh on the Internet.

I know people from all walks of life and who hold most political convictions. Might be one reason why I'm more open-minded and less bigoted than someone like yourself.

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'll be correct again about Carrick at which point you'll deny ever having mentioned it. 😃

Again? You've been right about something previously? There's a turn-up for the books.

No, Jonny, I won't deny having said it. Unlike you, I've no need to lie.

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You don't strike me as much of a pub goer Raymond.

Then that famous perception of yours fails you yet again, Jonathan. Spent far too much time in them (admittedly less so in recent years).

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Do they hold WI meetings there or something? 😀

I wouldn't know. Do they allow men at WI meetings or do you have to dress up in your twin-set and pearls? Not that I've got anything against transvestites. You crack on if cross-dressing makes you happy, Jonny😉