Ukraine drone strikes hit Moscow region, 3 dead

"Russians getting furious with Putin for not pushing hard enough."

Some want use of nuclear weapons against European nations. Constant talk by European leaders of war with Russia is leading many Russians to accept its inevitability.

Confirmed by Mearsheimer apparently.

Discussion of Ukraine-Russian War starts half-way through interview:

'Daniel Davis Gives GRAVE WARNING About Iran Military'

Getting closer to European-wide war ?

Russia Will Strike One of Europe's Top Decision Making Centers

On 5/17/2026 at 10:53 PM, kwilco said:

The Economist siad last week that the tide of the war in Ukraine was beginning to turn. This week, fresh analysis of battlefield data and maps strengthens that case. Russia has paid a staggering price: our estimates suggest around 3% of its pre-war male population of fighting age has been killed or wounded. Meanwhile, Ukraine has begun to claw back territory. Ukraines drones seem to be the rulers of the battlefield and can get miles into Russian territory,

The west neeeds to learn from this.

For anyone who doesn't understand the magnitude of that 3% claim. In WW2, the UK lost 1% of its pre-war population, mostly men of fighting age. Overall, 4% of men in uniform were killed, in a war that was across Europe, North Africa, Asia and the oceans.

Of the Russian losses, roughly one third are dead, one third are wounded, one third are missing (which means probably a rotting corpse now).

1 hour ago, ericbj said:

"Russians getting furious with Putin for not pushing hard enough."

Some want use of nuclear weapons against European nations. Constant talk by European leaders of war with Russia is leading many Russians to accept its inevitability.

Confirmed by Mearsheimer apparently.

Discussion of Ukraine-Russian War starts half-way through interview:

'Daniel Davis Gives GRAVE WARNING About Iran Military'

Lt Col Daniel Davis (retired) has consistantly pushed a pro-Russian line. He didn't get the job as deputy to gabbard because of his anti-Israel stance.

https://rescon1.com/is-fox-newss-ltc-daniel-l-davis-ret-on-putins-payroll/

16 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

Of the Russian losses, roughly one third are dead, one third are wounded, one third are missing (which means probably a rotting corpse now).

There's a lot of "missing" because they don't have to pay families in this case!

10 hours ago, ericbj said:

For anyone interested in news from the Ukrainian frontline (does not cover the broader situation):

Stop posting this sort of Z fascist pro Kremlin propaganda here.

I suggest you desist in hijacking THIS topic and then you are free to open your OWN topic all about Z fascist Kremlin propaganda.

Cool?

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8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Stop posting this sort of Z fascist pro Kremlin propaganda here.

I suggest you desist in hijacking THIS topic and then you are free to open your OWN topic all about Z fascist Kremlin propaganda.

Cool?

Oh objecting to propaganda now? LOL. How hypocritical

20 hours ago, ericbj said:

Incidentally, western news reports claimed that Russia was arming the rebels. However no evidence was ever produced of this by on-the-spot OECD observers and NATO officers seconded in an advisory capacity to the Armed Forces of the Ukraine. Polish Military Intelligence reports to the latter stated there was no evidence of this. The rebels were well equipped with former Soviet weaponry from defecting Russian-speaking units of the A.F.U. Certainly there were volunteers from such places as Russia, Serbia, and Spain.

The BuK TELAR that shot down MH17 originated not from a defecting unit of the AFU, but from the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade based in Kursk.

https://www.prosecutionservice.nl/topics/m/mh17-plane-crash/criminal-investigation-jit-mh17

OECD observers? You got your acronyms mixed while rage googling. There were unarmed OSCE observers. At no point were economists watching the movement of forces.

You must be in your 80s. A fool is a fool, old or young. The line that the OSCE never detected a weapons transfer from the Russian military to the seperatists is a Kremlin line. Maybe you are of the generation who regularly tuned into Radio Moscow for the "alternative perspective".

https://news.liga.net/politics/news/u_obse_est_informatsiya_o_nalichii_voennosluzhashchikh_rf_v_zone_ato

The OSCE Special Monitoring Mission is not an intelligence agency. It's not a civilian armed mission. We report on what we see and what we hear. And we report on what we can check. Since the deployment of our mission in the areas of the uncontrolled Ukrainian authorities, we have documented the presence of some specific weapons and ammunition. We also have information that confirms the presence of Russian servicemen in those territories. These are the facts that we regularly document in our daily reports that are published on our website. And the conclusions should be drawn by those who read the reports,” he said.

https://www.unian.info/war/1595556-us-mission-to-osce-russia-continues-sending-troops-equipment-into-ukraine.html

Despite combined-separatist forces' restrictions, the SMM continues to document evidence that Russia is sending troops and equipment into Ukraine," the report says.

"On October 17, the SMM spotted a minivan with military license plates carrying personnel in camouflage as it crossed from Russia into separatist-held Ukraine. The minivan did not transit the border at an official crossing point, as would have been the case if it had been carrying a routine rotation of Russian officers to the Joint Center for Coordination and Control," writes the U.S. Mission to the OSCE.

Also last week, monitors spotted a bus with at least 20 persons in camouflage crossing from separatist-held parts of Ukraine back into Russia. Taken together with the ramp up in access restrictions, this evidence is indicative of Russia's continued and active support of combined separatist forces in Ukraine.

At the same time, last week, Russia again rejected proposals to expand the SMM area of operations to cover all nine border crossings from Russia into separatist-held areas in Ukraine. Russia and the separatists it backs also refuse to grant the SMM the security guarantees it needs to open patrol hubs and forward patrol bases near the border. As a result, the SMM is operationally limited to monitoring one or two border crossings for one or two hours a day. Russia can and does easily move weapons, fuel, and ammunition across the border, under the cover of darkness, and in the absence of OSCE observers.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2016/11/19/osce-checkpoints-gukovo-donetsk-smm/

"Despite the strict limits imposed on the Observer Mission’s mandate and operating procedures, the Mission has still been able to document Russia’s destabilizing and destructive activity in eastern Ukraine. The Observer Mission has observed more than 30,000 individuals in military-style dress crossing just at the two checkpoints to which it has access.

Imagine, colleagues, what is crossing where we can’t see. [...] Untold thousands of additional personnel may have crossed where there are no international observers," he said.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2015/10/02/russian-rocket-system-seen-in-ukraine-for-first-time-osce-a50026

International monitors say they have spotted a new kind of Russian weapons system in rebel-held Ukraine this week, possible evidence of Moscow's continued interest in Ukraine even as it focuses on Syria.

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), which is monitoring a ceasefire in eastern Ukraine, reported that its monitors had seen a mobile TOS-1 "Buratino" weapons system for the first time.

The Buratino is equipped with thermobaric warheads which spread a flammable liquid around a target and then ignite it. It can destroy several city blocks in one strike and cause indiscriminate damage.

Only Russia produces the system and it was not exported to Ukraine before the conflict broke out, according to IHS Jane's Group and the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, which track arms exports.

https://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/175736

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Oh objecting to propaganda now? LOL. How hypocritical

When this is all over, we'll remember your sort, just like we remembered the apologists in WW2.

1 minute ago, Roadsternut said:

When this is all over, we'll remember your sort, just like we remembered the apologists in WW2.

You wont remember anything, you will be too busy trolling somewhere else.

7 hours ago, candide said:

There's a lot of "missing" because they don't have to pay families in this case!

Possibly, but a lot of fighting is in contested no-man lands. The Ukrainian priority is of course their own people.

https://youtu.be/lgFXDuuP910?si=uDfQleUUYrntqhsx

https://youtu.be/k7SDXVHIA94?si=bQjK9VoB8iCGdWvh

https://youtu.be/RaZn_k2zAZk?si=1_9rLAbSM6adD5SF

If all that is left of you after a couple of years in the open is some rib bones and tibia/fibia, then no doubt many will remain missing.

The founder of the Black Tulip group gives a grim account of battlefield body recovery:

https://war.huri.harvard.edu/2023/02/15/an-interview-with-oleksii-yukov/

In the account, as he has given in other interviews, he recounts that before the war, he was involved in WW2 battlefield recovery, and disclosed that Soviet mass graves were often full of more bodies than recorded, as the Soviets tried to cover up losses.

15 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

Lt Col Daniel Davis (retired) has consistantly pushed a pro-Russian line. He didn't get the job as deputy to gabbard because of his anti-Israel stance.

https://rescon1.com/is-fox-newss-ltc-daniel-l-davis-ret-on-putins-payroll/

If you can swallow what John R. Guardiano writes, good luck to you !

15 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

The BuK TELAR that shot down MH17 originated not from a defecting unit of the AFU, but from the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade based in Kursk.

https://www.prosecutionservice.nl/topics/m/mh17-plane-crash/criminal-investigation-jit-mh17

OECD observers? You got your acronyms mixed while rage googling. There were unarmed OSCE observers. At no point were economists watching the movement of forces.

You must be in your 80s. A fool is a fool, old or young. The line that the OSCE never detected a weapons transfer from the Russian military to the seperatists is a Kremlin line. Maybe you are of the generation who regularly tuned into Radio Moscow for the "alternative perspective".

https://news.liga.net/politics/news/u_obse_est_informatsiya_o_nalichii_voennosluzhashchikh_rf_v_zone_ato

https://www.unian.info/war/1595556-us-mission-to-osce-russia-continues-sending-troops-equipment-into-ukraine.html

https://euromaidanpress.com/2016/11/19/osce-checkpoints-gukovo-donetsk-smm/

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2015/10/02/russian-rocket-system-seen-in-ukraine-for-first-time-osce-a50026

https://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/175736

I have been following the events in the Ukraine since the time of the Maidan Coup so I am not that likely to be unduly influenced by propaganda from either side. Certainly that from the NATO/Zelensky side is far more distorted than the other.

As regards the enquiry anyone seriously concerned to arrive at the truth must ask a few questions such as:

1. What was the motive for the destruction of the airliner?

2. Why was a prime suspect. the Ukraine, included on the investigating panel? But not the other suspect, Russia?

3. What happened to the shocked foreign air-traffic controller at Kiev airport who immediately after the incident made known what he had observed on his screen that would be incompatible with the NATO version of events? No more was ever heard of him, or who he was, or what he had communicated.

4. BBC reporters on the spot shortly afterwards interviewed civilian eyewitnesses who said they had seen the airliner attacked by a single fighter aircraft. The video'd interview with English subtitles appeared briefly on the BBC website before being removed without explanation. But not before it had been copied and re-posted.

[note: Russian flight controllers claimed their radar to show the MH17 approached by two fighter aircraft. One from each side]

5. High definition photographs, taken by a German civil aviation pilot who decided to do a private investigation, show cockpit panels punctured by round holes, some with apparently smooth edges and others with jagged edges pointing outwards. These are said to be consistent with 20 mm cannon shells fired from both sides of the aircraft.

a) Can such damage be due to the explosion of a BUK missile?

b) How did the enquiry explain away this evidence?

c) Is there contradictory photographic evidence of damage to the aircraft's panels?

d) Where is the material evidence of what struck the aircraft?

e) Where is the expert testimony that the damage was caused by a BUK missile?

6. Where are the satellite images of a BUK missile battery being brought from Russia into the P.D.R., fired, and then taken back?

Satellite images were published of a Ukrainian BUK missile battery that was brought up close to the contact line in that area, at that time. After the soldiers had sat around on the ground drinking for a while the battery withdrew without firing a missile. A strange occurrence

p.s. I am aware of what the JIT says:

" Joint Investigation Team investigated all human remains, personal belongings and wreckage of the aircraft found in the vicinity of the disaster site. The traces were secured and investigated and compared by experts. In addition, the JIT sought and heard witnesses and experts, analysed radar and satellite images, assessed large amounts of telecom data such as intercepted telephone conversations and analysed big data."

I am not aware they have released this data to public scrutiny.

1 hour ago, ericbj said:

I have been following the events in the Ukraine since the time of the Maidan Coup so I am not that likely to be unduly influenced by propaganda from either side. Certainly that from the NATO/Zelensky side is far more distorted than the other.

As regards the enquiry anyone seriously concerned to arrive at the truth must ask a few questions such as:

1. What was the motive for the destruction of the airliner?

2. Why was a prime suspect. the Ukraine, included on the investigating panel? But not the other suspect, Russia?

3. What happened to the shocked foreign air-traffic controller at Kiev airport who immediately after the incident made known what he had observed on his screen that would be incompatible with the NATO version of events? No more was ever heard of him, or who he was, or what he had communicated.

4. BBC reporters on the spot shortly afterwards interviewed civilian eyewitnesses who said they had seen the airliner attacked by a single fighter aircraft. The video'd interview with English subtitles appeared briefly on the BBC website before being removed without explanation. But not before it had been copied and re-posted.

[note: Russian flight controllers claimed their radar to show the MH17 approached by two fighter aircraft. One from each side]

5. High definition photographs, taken by a German civil aviation pilot who decided to do a private investigation, show cockpit panels punctured by round holes, some with apparently smooth edges and others with jagged edges pointing outwards. These are said to be consistent with 20 mm cannon shells fired from both sides of the aircraft.

a) Can such damage be due to the explosion of a BUK missile?

b) How did the enquiry explain away this evidence?

c) Is there contradictory photographic evidence of damage to the aircraft's panels?

d) Where is the material evidence of what struck the aircraft?

e) Where is the expert testimony that the damage was caused by a BUK missile?

6. Where are the satellite images of a BUK missile battery being brought from Russia into the P.D.R., fired, and then taken back?

Satellite images were published of a Ukrainian BUK missile battery that was brought up close to the contact line in that area, at that time. After the soldiers had sat around on the ground drinking for a while the battery withdrew without firing a missile. A strange occurrence

p.s. I am aware of what the JIT says:

" Joint Investigation Team investigated all human remains, personal belongings and wreckage of the aircraft found in the vicinity of the disaster site. The traces were secured and investigated and compared by experts. In addition, the JIT sought and heard witnesses and experts, analysed radar and satellite images, assessed large amounts of telecom data such as intercepted telephone conversations and analysed big data."

I am not aware they have released this data to public scrutiny.

This is complete conspiracy theory nonsense.

11 minutes ago, Effective altruism said:

This is complete conspiracy theory nonsense.

One further point that has resurfaced to add to my previous comment:

Immediately after the destruction of MH17, the Ukrainian authorities released intercepts of vocal "Russian telecommunications" to prove their case that the Russians were responsible.

When analysed by experts these intercepts were shown to be fabricated from brief excerpts stitched together from separate conversations to produce the desired effect.

This does not prove the Russians were innocent. Instead it demonstrates there was intent and preparation upon the Ukranians' part to "prove" Russian involvement.

This fact alone should make it clear that the JIT was incapable of holding an independent investigation. It is like having a criminal suspect carry out a criminal investigation into actions of which he is suspected.

9 hours ago, ericbj said:

If you can swallow what John R. Guardiano writes, good luck to you !

You're one to talk about what you can swallow, trollishly infecting war topics with the most inane Kremlin propaganda and the most severe level conspiracy theories.

Instead of infecting legit topics, can you just please start your own topic where you post your garbage to your heart's content? Call it what you like. Perhaps Useful Idiots for Putin Central.

19 hours ago, Effective altruism said:

This is complete conspiracy theory nonsense.

He's near the end. I suppose in the end such thinking brings him comfort in his final few months/years.

On 5/19/2026 at 9:09 AM, Jingthing said:

Bingo.

Scott Ritter is even worse.

Useful idiots for Putin are so annoying.

I agree, and the most useful puppet in my opinion has always been Donald Trump.