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Vance Says US-Iran Clashes Are Not A War

Vice President J.D. Vance said on Thursday that he would not describe the military operation between the United States and Iran as “a war”, even as fighting between the two sides flared this week.

Vance Rejects a “War” Description

Speaking during a press briefing, Vance said there was “no active shooting” at the time, adding that he recognised hostilities had “flared up” in other places and moments.

The exchanges of force this week marked the largest burst of fighting in weeks after about a month of relative calm, according to the accounts cited by Vance.

On Tuesday, the US military carried out roughly 100 strikes against Iranian targets.

Strikes Follow Threats In Strait Of Hormuz

The Pentagon described the action as retaliation for threats in the Strait of Hormuz.

Vance said the timing for a complete end to the fighting ultimately rested with Iran.

When asked when Iran would stop attacking ships, he said he did not know the answer and that it would be for Iran to determine. He also said the US would not depend on Iran behaving “responsibly” or negotiating in “good faith”.

Purpose Of US Action

Instead, Vance said the US would use the available “tools” to address two objectives: preventing the United States from facing the threat of an Iranian nuclear programme, and ensuring world energy markets remained adequately supplied.

Civilian Death Reports Under Review

Vance also addressed Iranian officials’ claims that a US missile strike killed at least four civilians at a home in southern Iran where people were celebrating a wedding.

He said he was “extremely skeptical” of the reports, arguing that Iranian state media had not “been a very good scribe” about developments in the conflict. Vance said he was not presenting a finding on the specific incident, but said he had been briefed and that an investigation into what happened was under way.

He added that the US “never” targets civilians in combat. Vance said he did not think the US had enough information “one way or the other” regarding the specific claim.

Skepticism Over Cyberattack Claims

Vance further responded to a report by NBC News that Iranian cyberattacks had targeted US infrastructure.

He said the administration felt “quite confident” that the homeland was safe, while also saying he believed Iran would try to carry out actions it lacked the capability to perform. He said the US government was focused on anticipating potential cyber threats and responding appropriately to them.

Vance said he would be “much more worried about cyberattacks from other actors”.

NBC News reported on Wednesday that Iranian hackers had targeted US water systems, telecommunications, energy and other infrastructure. The outlet said sources indicated the attempted attacks had not been successful and that they focused on automated systems connected to the internet.

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JBChiangRai Diamond Member

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A blockade is an act of war.

QED, the US is at war with Iran.

Schoggibueb Gold Member

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

Purpose Of US Action

Instead, Vance said the US would use the available “tools” to address two objectives: preventing the United States from facing the threat of an Iranian nuclear programme, and ensuring world energy markets remained adequately supplied.

And no sucess (ZERO) so far. They still have their enriched uranium. And the gas prices today are at a whopping 4.14 $ per gallon...

https://gasprices.aaa.com/

So only using these "tools" wich haven't brought any sucess costed the taxpayer only 113.3 billion $.

https://iran-cost-ticker.com/

connda Star Member

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Vance Says US-Iran Clashes Are Not A War

That way an US President can bomb the sh!t out of any country he wants with ever having to go to Congress under the War Powers Act.

connda Star Member

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1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

A blockade is an act of war.

QED, the US is at war with Iran.

Piracy is an act of war as well, and the US, EU, and UK are rapidly becoming the key users of domestic "board and confiscate law" which are primarily used against Russia, Iran, and any other country the West wants to destabilized - and my guess is that Chinese ships will soon be on that list. My guess is that Russia is very close to saying, "That's enough," and engaging in quid pro quo.

JBChiangRai Diamond Member

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6 minutes ago, connda said:

Piracy is an act of war as well, and the US, EU, and UK are rapidly becoming the key users of domestic "board and confiscate law" which are primarily used against Russia, Iran, and any other country the West wants to destabilized - and my guess is that Chinese ships will soon be on that list. My guess is that Russia is very close to saying, "That's enough," and engaging in quid pro quo.

I don’t disagree with what you said, and it is concerning.

J Branche Gold Member

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5 minutes ago, connda said:

and my guess is that Chinese ships will soon be on that list.

Never happen. China has plenty of the rare earths needed for the 2 plus year backlog of missiles and Military Weapons.

Additionally China has an abundance of items need for the Energy Sector and High Tech products.

Eric Loh Star Member

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33 minutes ago, connda said:

Vance Says US-Iran Clashes Are Not A War

That way an US President can bomb the sh!t out of any country he wants with ever having to go to Congress under the War Powers Act.

The War POwers Act limit the US President's ability to initiate or escalate military actions abroad without congressional approval. War declaration is not a requisite. The Act was passed by a bipartisan House but for Trump to claim that the 60 days deadline was complied with the ceasefire. Further resolutions were called but without the President signature, it will not be enforced plus the fact that he has veto power. The resolutions were also blocked by those chicken hearted Republicans after they were berated by Trump. Things will change after mid-term if the war continue till then.

Peabody Gold Member

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6 hours ago, J Branche said:

Never happen. China has plenty of the rare earths needed for the 2 plus year backlog of missiles and Military Weapons.

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We can always buy them from Canada

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