saakura

I also had to sign my name in Thai about 15 times on various forms the case handler had prepared for me. I was then given 3 sealed envelopes with government emblems. Two of them i had to go and deliver at my home embassy (understood that one of them was to do with "intention of giving my nationality" but not sure about the second sealed envelope.). The third sealed envelope i had to deliver to the district office where our marriage was registered (understand that this is for cross checking that the marriage is genuine). 

On 5/22/2020 at 6:06 PM, saakura said:

Thank you for the good information. I am eligible both by way of PR and marriage to a Thai national, but was advised to take the marriage route. Will report back next about how it went. As it is scorching hot in Bangkok now, plan to go in smart casual attire and a good pair of shoes, no tie.

 

So you are saying that after these 2 interviews with SB & NIA, it will take several years before being interviewed by the big MOI committee? That is a mighty disappointment and a risk since i may retire just short of 4 years from now.

My SB interviews with 2 different officers (they both have tiny individual cabins just behind where the case officers are sitting) went off well. We were ushered into the first cabin where after normal courtsies, there were some expected questions about the year and reason for my arrival in Thailand, my education, work and my family back home, how i met my wife etc. And he then gave me a printed sheet with 10 questions in Thai language, with 4 answers for each and i had to tick the right answer. I can read Thai very well but he volunteered to help if required. I got all the answers right (extremely basic questions) and my points added up to 73 (after some extra documents regarding my Master's degree in Engineering was asked for). In the next cabin with the higher officer, it was just friendly idle banter in Thai.

Everyone was very friendly and polite. But other than telling me my points score and assuring me of a fair chance at success, they had no information about the next timeline. Anyone know how long before the NIA interview? And will it be somewhere in the same complex or some different location in Bangkok?

20 hours ago, Chris.B said:

Geovalin,

 

Form TM7 (one year extension application) states...

 

1. ผู้ขอจะต้องยื่นคาขออนุญาตด้วยตนเอง
APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT THE APPLICATION IN PERSON
เว้นแต่ ผู้ป่วยหรือผู้พิการที่ไม่สามารถมายื่นด้วยตนเองได้
WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF HANDICAPPED PATIENTS OR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

 

"WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF Sick Person OR HANDICAPPED PATIENTS OR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES"

Not sure if you missed it or your reading skill is poor, but you missed out "sick person" clearly mentioned in the Thai version.

1 hour ago, khongaeng said:

1) In my case, they never told me exactly how many points I had during the interview with SB.  They did however announce how many points I had as I was entering the room for my MOI interview.  If SB accepts your application, then you have at least 50 points even if they don’t tell you the exact number.  

 

2) My witnesses came on the day when I paid my 5000 baht fee and got my fingerprints taken.  From what others have said it is possible that it could also happen at different times. Your officer will inform you when you should bring them.

 

3) My application was not sent to MOI until over 8 months after my interview with NIA and almost 1 year after the interview at SB, I did not pay any fee to expedite.  I have talked with others that were required to pay a fee to have their applications sent onward.  I don’t know why individuals are sometimes asked to pay a fee, but the general consensus in the forum is that you should never pay a fee like this to a lawyer, handler, otherwise.  If you have connections, the process goes much faster, otherwise expect to wait 3-4 years until you have an ID card in hand.

Thank you for taking the time to give a very informative reply.

So now that Ramadan is over, will it be back to business as usual?

6 hours ago, zyphodb said:

Do you really think that there's lots of English teachers left here then? Somehow I think they're going to be struggling even more than before to find any Native english Speakers. Not that the Gov. care they'd rather have Phillipinos, cost less, and I really don't think that they care about the lack of quality English teaching for the masses, all their children go abroad to school...

Aah so you think that this specimen nut case or similar unqualified workers from Native English speaking countries are better than well qualified English teachers from Phillippines or Africa? I really think that they should care about the quality of English teaching for the masses and not just skin colour, and employ well qualified Asians or Africans over unqualified Native English speaking riff raff looking to stay in Thailand to enjoy the gogo bars and beaches. Please pay attention to the word "well qualified" 

7 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

obviously mentally ill.

 

lets hope he gets the help he needs.  

Or just another steroid junkie living in a fantasy world

11 hours ago, david143 said:

for it took 1 month after i start process document, NIA called to my wife and asked us to come for interview.
After interview of NIA in April 2018.
10 August 2018 , SB send me message through line that we forward your Document to MOI ---> Then
on 14 December 2019 , i personally received a call from MOI staff , that i have to attend my final interview on 17 December 2019 Please come sharp 8 o'clock with family.
Now next step is Oath-----> RG
 

thts the procedure i have done **** others may vary*** for Timing

Hello David, i have a few questions for you 1) At what stage do you get to know about your points and who tells you that? Do they give you some document or just tell you the points?   2) What about the 2 witnesses who vouch for you? Do they ever have to attend any interview?  3) Any reason why the SB took 4 months after the NIA interview to send your documents to MOI? I am asking because my case handler hinted that it can be expedited for a hefty fee.

4 hours ago, GarryP said:

Me neither. I would have butchered the anthems and been banned from entering Thailand for life. I am absolutely tone deaf and cannot sing to save my life. Luckily, I had just enough points to squeeze through without singing. 

???????????? My general pronounciation is good but i am also bad on the tones. But i think that they are more interested in the intent. If you make a try, Thais (includes you too, as you are now a Thai citizen!) are generally very accomodative and willing to help you.

11 hours ago, david143 said:

for it took 1 month after i start process document, NIA called to my wife and asked us to come for interview.
After interview of NIA in April 2018.
10 August 2018 , SB send me message through line that we forward your Document to MOI ---> Then
on 14 December 2019 , i personally received a call from MOI staff , that i have to attend my final interview on 17 December 2019 Please come sharp 8 o'clock with family.
Now next step is Oath-----> RG
 

thts the procedure i have done **** others may vary*** for Timing

Thank you David, very kind of you to give this information

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Interesting, where did you get October from? - Thats another 5 months with no incoming flights? or just no incomming tourists? or no incoming Western tourists?

 

You could be right, but why October and not November, or September? what thought process?

 

 

 

 

Chang, comes in large green bottles????????

On 5/21/2020 at 5:15 PM, scubascuba3 said:

I'm pretty sure the sun and heat here in Thailand is the main reason cases are low

And did you not read in the same article

"We still encourage people to wear face masks when shopping or running errands outside their homes,” he added. “You can also disinfect masks by leaving them inside the car, as long as it is parked somewhere warm.”

Very sad to hear. Perhaps they were citizens being brought back from other countries, as the commercial flights are suspended i suppose. 

Edit : It was a Lahore to Karachi domestic flight. 

10 minutes ago, yankee99 said:

Do what you want but imho a proper shirt and tie is a minimum. Im surprised your contact officer didn't tell you what to wear. Put it on before you enter the sb has ac. 

 

My moi interview was about 21 months after i submitted my application. 

I was dressed in trousers and a half sleeve office shirt tucked in with a belt. Good black shoes. I did ask the case handler and she told me that a similar attire would be fine. Now that you mention it, i will wear a full sleeve with tie, why risk offending? Yes the office has AC but i normally park my car in Siam and walk down. Even with an umbrella, i sweat profusely by the time i arrive and have to cool off somewhere before entering.

6 minutes ago, GarryP said:

It should no longer take 4 years. The process is considerably shorter than it used to be. You should be okay.   

Thanks Garry, i hope it is. 

10 hours ago, david143 said:

NIA interview is 2 officers will ask same questions and see original documents just like WP, Visa, Residence Book, actually they try to match statement of Candidate and his wife, how you met blah blah blah.
but you guys will sit on different chairs about 3 meter space, nothing to worry anything , but i heard in Feb my friend gave NIA interview and now they Note down every word in Computer.
I gave NIA interview on 19 May 2018 SUNDAY morning 9:00 AM and it was only 2 min i set time on my mobile. there was no computer ,they  just saw all the original documents, ask some personal question from wife , kid and off course from me. Total time spend 2 min and 45 seconds, take a family photo and bye bye . this was my Experience , *** Others May Vary***.
SB interview is general questions, personal how you met WHY YOU WANT TO BECOME THAI.
Test i don't know ,i don't gave any written Test for name or anything, i deal all process in Thai ???? .*** Others May Vary***.
 

Hi David, thanks for taking the time to reply. As you know, i have just taken the first step on this long journey. May i ask how long after your SB/MIA interview did you go for MOI interview? 

9 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

Are you applying on basis of PR or marriage to a Thai?

 

SB - straightforward. Interview for me there was with section chief at back of office where you file the application. Only question he really wanted an answer to was "you understand you must give up your current nationality if you become Thai". Then an interview (short) upstairs with a more senior officer and the multiple choice Thai knowledge test. Ironically turns out I know more about Thai ephemera than my wife (I could have applied via PR but chose to go the wife route). Never had to sign my name in Thai but I write Thai well enough and had written stuff on various forms downstairs IIRC.

 

NIA - straightforward. Sat next to the missus; no kids came along. One person interviewed us. Were there about 30 mins because I like to talk. Plus I figured: "we had to make all this effort to come over here, so why hurry?". General chit chat about us, our backgrounds, what we each do. I sense that if you speak Thai clearly and well, they *may* spend more time talking to you because it's more interesting for them. But, hey, maybe also it was just a quiet day and the interviewer wanted to stretch it to lunchtime. When I did my PR Thai test a buddy of mine was in and out in about 30 seconds - I took 20 minutes. 

 

This was mid 2018 - still waiting for MOI interview. I guess it will happen when it happens. I run my own company and have PR so I'm not kicking my heels in a job I detest, unable to quit because I need the continuity of employment.

 

Thank you for the good information. I am eligible both by way of PR and marriage to a Thai national, but was advised to take the marriage route. Will report back next about how it went. As it is scorching hot in Bangkok now, plan to go in smart casual attire and a good pair of shoes, no tie.

So you are saying that after these 2 interviews with SB & NIA, it will take several years before being interviewed by the big MOI committee? That is a mighty disappointment and a risk since i may retire just short of 4 years from now.

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

That you could dig such negativity out of a good story speaks volumes about yourself - Matzzon, you are nothing if not consistent.

Haters will always hate, they like to wallow in their own misery. The customer is a well known philanthropist who runs a free medical clinic for the poor since a long time. However, he should never have consented to being photographed and published over a trivial matter of buying a pair of shoes which cost maybe 500 Baht. 

Today 21st May 2020, i submitted to SB, all the required documents for naturalisation as a Thai citizen. I was told to come back for an interview and written test with the same police department on Tuesday 26th May and i have to practice writing my name in thai script for the test. Any advise on what to expect at this interview will be greatly appreciated. I was also told that the next step after the Tuesday interview with SB is another interview with the NIA (National Intelligence Agency). What is that for? 

20 minutes ago, Thomas Hannah said:

Oh my God.She needs to become a bar girl in pattaya.And learn to speak english.I have met bar girls in pattaya that could not speak english.They have spoken me in perfect english 3 months later.And im not talking sex industry talk.normal conversation.Makes you think.This person must have had an expencive english course to be selected for this role.?.Or is it the old story.not the best .but who you know.

And. if you think. your english language. skills are better. than her's, read your post again. 

22 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

And I know that there are many on this forum who can't grasp simple critical concepts while tripping overthemselves to forgive the idiotic.

 

Question directed at you EricTh: Are any of these foreigners [who can't speak perfect Thai after many years of studying Thai] Thai teachers? - now do you get the issue?

 

 

And do you think that the native english speakers who are masquerading as english teachers are able to grasp simple critical concepts? A majority of them teaching in the small town schools and language teachers are unqualified lager louts, taxi drivers, shelf stackers come here for the culture, temples and cheap orange juice and sustaining themselves by teaching. 

And the results are there for everyone to see! Well done Thailand!

After going around to a few stores and getting all the physical sizes, cooling capacity, power required etc i finalised a suitable model for each of our 3 bedrooms and the living room. Then ordered online, far cheaper and same guarantees. Been 4 years now, never had a problem.

4 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

 

But they aren't teaching others Thai language.

4 hours ago, neverere said:

Nonsense, this is about teaching. In this case the teacher should have been vetted for English speaking ability prior to being used in this capacity. 

Neither should they pick up any riff raff bar or sex addict with a hastily aquied dodgy degree just because he happens to have white skin. If properly and genuinely qualified, it should not matter if he/she is a Thai, Filipino, Swedish or <deleted>.