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1 hour ago, Bill Miller said:
It is not just at airports, apparently. Padang Besar was mentioned as one of the "problem" spots.
Perhaps one could find an ATM before the inspection point?
I noticed there was at least one ATM conspicuously located just before the Laos exit at Savannakhet.
Why not have ATMs usefully located in the airport? The "undesireables" likely won't have the funds available there, either.It pretty much is just airports. The Padang Besar incident was July 14, 2014. Someone accidentally linked it again thinking it was July 2017, then news media mistakenly inserted it into their articles, the Independent did:
"It has been reported that immigration officials at Padang Besar were pulling tourist visa holders aside on Friday 14 July, taking anyone who could not show they had 20,000 baht in cash away for questioning."
Nice journalism
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9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:It's not as though they are hiding the requirement for 20,000 to obtain a TrV.This came up when I googled "requirements for tourist visa in Thailand"Seems to me all this talk about the modern age etc is just hokum as apparently all the "switched on" people can't use google, LOL.Documents required:
- Passport or travel document with a validity not less than 6 months.
- Visa application form (filled out)
- One(1) recent 4x6cm. photograph of the applicant.
- Round-trip air ticket or e-ticket (paid in full)
- Proof of financial means (20,000 baht per person/40,000 baht per family)
Tourist Visa in Thailand | ThaiEmbassy.com
www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/thailand-tourist-visa.phpThat's the requirement to get the visa at the consulate, that's why it's listed next to the filled in application form and photo.
If they don't ask for that cash when you apply (usually they don't), and then they give you the visa, one should rightly assume ok I'm fine now, I won't be pulled aside at the airport and not allowed to go to an ATM machine 10 metres away....
I don't know why this is so hard to understand. How can you possibly defend the willy nilly granting of visas at consulates, then that airport treatment. If it was your child on a gap year you'd be livid, first the consulate just takes their money for the visa, doesn't ask to see money or give any warning that it might be asked for at the airport, so the tourist doesn't withdraw it, then they're thrown into a detention cell potentially for up to 24 hours, paying for the privilege, plus the cost of a last minute flight, and now have a denied entry stamp that screws up their travel plans.
This is happening to tourists who've only been in the Kingdom a year, and has happened to people who did have the 20k too. Nothing on Google about that as thaivisa omitted that fact from their article, so it's also missing from the article about this in the Nation and the Independent.
To know the whole story one has to spend hours on thaivisa but if anyone is reading this, it might not matter whether you have the 20k or not. Best strategy right now is to use the Vientiane land border if you have approximately a year or more of consecutive Thailand visa history in your passport.
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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:
Rather an oversimplification! Thais can't get visas to retire to western countries or get work permits. And it's far more difficult for them to get tourist visas.
The issues in this thread don't happen to foreigners on retirement or with work permits. Once a tourist visa is granted Thais aren't then told to present X amount of cash on arrival without ATM access.
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7 minutes ago, natway09 said:
Go check requirements for Thais into your home country.
That's different How ???
Because they can apply for a passport after a few years stay in my country, can work in any job category they like, same as locals, for extremely high salaries, buy land, vote, have first world facilities, rights, etc. More to the point all the questions are asked when applying for the visa so there are no last minute annoyances airside in the airport with no access allowed to an ATM, and a risk of being turned around and flown back home just because you don't have a certain amount of physical cash on your person.
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18 hours ago, NanLaew said:
those who have been unable to show cash and shown the door have their passports clearly stamped with the reason they were turned away... and the stamp doesn't say, "Didn't have enough cash" either.
It does actually say ไม่มีเงิน 'didn't have money' on a friend's denied entry stamp, when this happened to him.
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18 hours ago, Kerryd said:
Thailand has every right to do that and the people that complain tend to forget that they have no right to break the rules, regardless of their origin (or attitude). I'm sure there are some who think that they have the god-given "right" to stay in Thailand as long as they want
Haven't read the thread yet I'm sure this got said already but - there are no set rules on length of stay with tourist visas. Can you quote any set limits on tourist visa issue, or use? No. They can stay for as long as consulates keep issuing them visas (which for many has been decades) as long as they aren't completely broke (<20k baht cash in possession per trip) or employed in some physical capacity that takes jobs from locals without a permit.
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7 hours ago, impulse said:
Who hops on an international flight with less than 20,000 baht in hard currency hidden away in case their ATM card gets eaten, their wallet gets stolen, or any one of a hundred other scenarios where USD, GBP, or Euro's are the only solution?
Someone with no friends?
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Some young guys working online here sure does seem to provoke an emotional reaction in certain people.
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7 minutes ago, phuketjock said:
Must be true then.
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Yes true that they are considering it
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12 minutes ago, perthperson said:
Which 5* hotels do you claim are now littered with nomad pests?
What's this even mean? Why would they be in hotels?
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11 minutes ago, perthperson said:
Provide the link please !
You don't sound like you can read Thai
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2 minutes ago, perthperson said:
In your dreams only !
It's in Thai news media
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7 minutes ago, phuketjock said:
That would be great then they can all get together and buy their own digital
cafe' and pay their own overheads, don't hold your breath though.
And heh watch out for freeloaders coming in, or sorry digital nomads.
I dont go to cafes no nomads I know do, you must be looking at backpackers on laptops and assuming they are something else. How could you possibly know if they live here or are just checking their emails
At any rate sounds like you need to hang out in more high end places
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1 minute ago, gamini said:
Most countries limit tourists stays to 6 months why should Thailand be any diferent?
Those countries are different to Thailand they often allow a simple route to citizenship, unrestricted employment in any field, first world facilities, ability to buy land etc. False equivalency, should compare to the rest of SE Asia
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1 hour ago, sanemax said:
Surely they would not be nomads, if they stayed in one place all the time ?
Just 1.5 years in each place gives you ~30 countries to visit in a normal lifespan, thats pretty nomadic
People are getting denied entry lately after only about a year in Thailand
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3 hours ago, asean said:
Maybe you can tell us about all the other countries that have special visas for digital nomads LOL........maybe you cut those "halfwit diving instructors" some slack too
Germany, Estonia, Chile... Thailand is considering one actually
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58 minutes ago, midas said:I see nothing onerous about this whatsoever.
I mean just based on living a very modest lifestyle without any extravagance- I still can't see how any genuine tourist can make 20,000 baht last for more than a couple of weeks?
Because somehow you fail to realize it isn't about the money but the silliness of having to show it airside in the airport where there are no ATMs.
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6 minutes ago, al007 said:We do not know the facts
In ten years here I have never had any problems with immigration
Generally even if one has a valid visa the immigration officer has the right to refuse entry
Try some of the tricks some of them pull and you may not even get on the aeroplanes if going to the USA
People need to read the small print and comply or they can go elsewhere
It is well known Thailand is difficult, and maybe they are correct
The current gentleman started with overstay a few days earlier, not a good start
You have a Thai wife and are over 50 Sir.
This is a recent uptick in airport immigration issues affecting unmarried under 50s.
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13 minutes ago, CutiePi said:Maybe when you get things sorted and attempt your next airport entry, fly business class. I've entered dozens of times on all manner of visasand visa exemptions with never any issue but I always fly business or first class. My guess is the IOs working the Premium Lane figure people flying Business have allot of money and are good for Thailand. At least it's worth a try.
Search 'bkk airport immigration fast track', for $30 you can have a rep meet you as you get off the plane, whatever class you flew in, then they take you through the fast lane.
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1 minute ago, MekkOne said:
No flights from Laos to BKK airport at all...
Laos Airlines
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5 minutes ago, Cletus said:
Hmm, this is the second case in few days, and the OPs appear to have discovered ThaiVisa Forum after entering the detention cell.
I know this guy actually, it's not a troll. Don't know the other guy
Tiny % of expats / tourists actively post on this forum
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15 minutes ago, tonray said:
Perhaps instead of arguing against reality, you can start a blog to assist future travelers. Have a good day.
Reality is anyone reading that one line in the huge immigration act will conclude that it means no completely bankrupt people with no access to funds at all to support their stay.
There should be more mention of the exact 20k baht requirement and the fact you won't be allowed to use an ATM. Sure one poster above has gone on Google images and found some outdated sign from over a decade ago... but the best location to tell people would be when they apply for visas at consulates, on the paperwork.
Besides there are many reports of people still being denied with 20k + on their person.
I do have a blog.
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1 minute ago, tonray said:Immigration Regs Section 12
Section 12
Aliens which fall into any of the following categories are excluded from entering into the Kingdom:
- Having no genuine and valid passport or document used in lieu of passport; or having a genuine and valid passport or document used in lieu of a passport without Visaing by the Royal Thai Embassies or Consulates in Foreign countries; or from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, excepting if a visa is not required for certain types of aliens in special instances. Visaing and visa exemption will be under the learn and conditions as provided in the Ministerial Regulations.
- Having no appropriate means of living following entrance into the Kingdom.
- Having entered into the Kingdom to take occupation as a laborer or to take employment by using physical without skills training or to work in violation of the Ministerial Regulations.
- Being mentally unstable or having any of the disease as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations.
- Having not yet been vaccinated against small pox or inoculated or undergone any other medical treatment for protection against disease and having refused to have such vaccinations administered by the Immigration Doctor.
- Having been imprisoned by the judgement of the Thai Court; or by a lawful injunction; or by the judgement of the Court of foreign country, except when the penalty is foe petty offense or negligence or is provided for as an exception in the Ministerial Regulations.
- Having behavior which would indicated possible danger to the public or likelihood of being a nuisance or constituting any violence to the peace or safety of the public or to the security of the public or to the security of the nation, or being under warrant of arrest by competent officials of foreign governments.
- Reason to believe that entrance into the Kingdom was for the purpose of being involved in prostitution, the trading of woman of children, drug smuggling, or other types of smuggling which are contrary to the public morality.
- Having no money or bond as prescribed by the Minister under him.
- Being a person prohibited by the Minister under Section 16.
- Being deported by either the Government of Thailand that of or other foreign countries; or the right of stay in the Kingdom or in foreign countries having been revoked; or having been sent out of the Kingdom by competent officials at the expense of the Government of Thailand unless the Minister shall consider exemption on an individual special case basis.
Which says nothing about 20k baht in cash... just 'no money', everyone has some money on them, OP had 8000 baht, ATM cards to withdraw more, etc.
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22 minutes ago, tonray said:
And yet they have time to keep their faces buried in facebook and instagram while they walk into traffic. Time to be be adults if they want some respect.
Ironically you sound like a child here. And are being totally disinhonest, there is in fact little to no information online anywhere about needing 20k baht cash at the airport, outside of Thaivisa.com. Only some info about it being a technical requirement to get a tourist visa at a consulate.
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Nice journalism
Does "frequent travel to Thailand tourist visa" stamp affect subsequent Ed visa?
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
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Just use land borders as you're thinking. Know guys in a similar spot as you who've had no issues via land.