Robby nz

If this topic proves nothing else it is just how much freedom of speech there is in this country.

But then internet access to as many people is important to countries who want to use it to spy on their own people.

That's because the river level hasn't dropped yet, it is still at the same level it has been for the last couple of months.

It takes time for the slow down of release from the dams to work its way down a huge rive system such as the Chao Phraya.

Unless there is a lot of rain upstream the river level will start to drop in the next couple of weeks then the complaints will start.

But what is a little bit of salt in the BKK tap water compared to thousands of farmers with no income because there is not enough water for them to plant a crop.

Sorry my mistake the comfort of those in BKK is far more important.

In light of what is going on around the world at this time it would seem more pertinent to proclaim " The world needs to act before religion destroys the planet"

Likely miscalculated the time needed to get back and found they were going to get caught in the dark. The fact that they were able to give a numbered tree doesn't mean they would be easier to find for there will be hundreds of marked trees and there are no road maps in forests, however a marked tree would be on a track.

Must have been scarey for them as they would know there were things like snakes and other things that can bite you in the forest. Good for anyone to know that they can call for help and it will come.

The search teams did the right thing starting close to home and working out.

I am not sure if I understand the last sentence, but if you mean to infer that doctors are agains the right to die for financial reasons... do you really believe there is not a doctor in the world who opposes the right to die on moral or ethical ground?

Incidentally, I am for the right to die.

Now there is something good that the Yingluck administration did.

I suppose if a doctor in a private hospital stops treating a patient in accordance with a living will and the patient dies then payment to the hospital stops. But that wouldn't come into the decision to petition against the regulation.

You must take both sentences together, the last is not a statement on its own.

The statement was not about a doctor but about the hospital, in this instance a private hospital.

What I want is doctors and hospitals to respect the wishes of someone who has made a living will (the subject of this topic) and not keep them alive by machine or medication when there is no hope of recovery against their express written wishes.

In this day and age it is easy to keep someone breathing and their heart beating even when all brain activity has stopped and there is no way they could ever wake to any sort of life. That is what I am against, if I were in that condition I would not want to be kept "Alive" with someone paying for the treatment.

So she is the first one to come out and attempt to use this tragedy to her political advantage. Who will be next ?

Could it be the good doctors are bemoaning the loss of revenues from patients who chooses to

end life instead living in misery for them and their loved one? after all, they're running a business

aren't they? the doctor's oath is also about preserving people's dignity and free will, and not to be

subjected to a medico whims and orders just because he/she wears a white coat....

It would be interesting to see which hospitals the doctors that complained about this regulation represent, for it is only private hospitals that have a financial interest in treating patients for as long as possible.

Don't start the 'all Thais are' BS, most doctors in this country are great and it is not them that would get the greatest benefit from a patient being kept alive in ICU but the private hospital which is a money making business.

In a story about politicians they could have used a photo of a politician instead of the clown Jutaporn who described himself as a political activist and managed through his own stupidity to get himself booted out as an MP.

The commentator tells us " "The incinerators cannot be the "only" answer for the mounting garbage." But fails to suggest any others.

The most popular 'other' is landfill which has been shown to generate significant quantities of methane and other so called greenhouse gases as the rubbish decomposes and the rubbish is in fact still there only hidden from sight.

A major factor against incinerators is the NIMBY thing, nobody wants one near them.

Now there is something good that the Yingluck administration did.

I suppose if a doctor in a private hospital stops treating a patient in accordance with a living will and the patient dies then payment to the hospital stops. But that wouldn't come into the decision to petition against the regulation.

Theerat, an appropriate name to be mixed up in something like Ufun.

They searched his home and office but did not find any documentary evidence. Of course they didn't he only surrendered after he was sure it was all destroyed.

Agree with the above and add.

Only the rich will be able to afford to dress up to gamble in casinos so it is another double standard where the rich can gambol legally but the poor betting on football, cock fighting and Hi-Low will still be criminals.

My lady has done many years study on Thai herbs and tells me those mentioned can be dangerous if taken by themselves and must be taken in conjunction with other herbs (she uses them).

She says there are better alternatives.

If anyone is interested PM me and I will give you a contact in Thai.

I ill try to help as I have been to a few of these places.

Overnight 2nd class fan sleeper train to Surat thani.

Boat the next day to Koh Samui.

Boat back to ST or boat to Koh Phangan then back to ST

Bus to Pimalai jetty then ferry to Koh Lanta

Bus back to Krabi.

Boat to Phuket, there is an island in the middle that is worth a stop Koh Yao Yai.

For an added extra, bus to Ranong and boat to either Koh Chang or Koh Pahaym

Fly back from Ranong to BKK.

If you don't want to do that fly back from Phuket.

Check all these places out on the internet work out a timetable, how many nights where, and possibly book. You will have to book the train.

Remember we are coming up to the SW Monsoon season and the weather is likely to be wet and wild down there for the next 2 or 3 months.

Thank you Robby and Haloween for your opinions.

The Asian Correspondent, Oct 29th 2013, under the name of Saksith Saiyasombot and I quote " There is opposition coming from Pheu Thai's own supporter base, the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, who issued a statement voicing their disagreement with the draft re write since it could potentially acquit those responsible for the deadly crack down on the anti government protests in 2010"

There was enough publicity around at that time of this statement and the notes accompanying to corroborate that the author got it right.

I disagree with the UDD on this matter.

It is only when the various factions that make up Thailand can forgive and reconcile that the country can move forward instead of being in virtual lockdown since 1932.

Those are not opinions they are facts.

And I see you sort of agree with them but still want to continue defending the indefensible.

So you believe the charges against the Ex commerce minister should just be dropped and forgotten about, no problem just let him keep his ill gotten gains. Same with all the other corruption so the corrupt can be reconciled and happy.

How does that work with the victims of corruption, in this case the taxpayer and their children who will be paying for the money borrowed to fund this scheme for many years.

Will they be happy to pay so the corrupt can get away with their crime and be happy ?

No way. Go after the corrupt prove them guilty in court then after jailing them for a very long time, strip them of their assets right down to their underwear to get as much back for the country and the people as possible.

Of course I agree with you if we were discussing theory, Robby. But to be practical, quite apart from discussing the hatred and venom that pervades Thailand, where are the extra police and where are the extra judges going to come from? Where will the new jails be built and who will fund it? Law breaking is rampant in Thailand. Balance can only be restored by wise parenting and school teachers setting an example into the future. All this frothing at the mouth and spewing hatred is actually not going to progress Thailand one inch. I was impressed when living in China at how many they were sending abroad to all 4 corners of the earth, police , lawyers, academics, I helped train some of them. They wanted to progress their society by taking the best of other societies and blending the learnings with their local society. That is what Thailand should be considering rather than spending all their time in revenge. In the current climate of fear and retribution 2010 could become a little blip compared to what may be unleashed next time. Amongst other things, I have made a study of Pol Pot and discovered he was an absolute nobody and a solo loose cannon until the elitists in Phnom Penh became so autocratic the rural people rose up under his previously un heard of rhetoric. Is this what you want for Thailand? , I hope not.

You are very keen on the word hate but I don't see things that way.

Neither do I believe that allowing criminals to get away with their crime and keep the proceeds of that crime will help or reconcile anyone but them. There are victims of almost all crime and some may be willing to forgive those who have committed crimes against them............. But...........As in South Africa; truth comes with reconciliation and unless the criminals are willing to confess, repent and recompense the victims then they should be charged with their crimes and if found guilty made to repay their victims for any losses the victims incurred along with ensuring that those convicted can never benefit from their crime in any way.

I agree with you that education is badly needed but that is a different subject as is Pol Pot who I have also read up on as well as visiting Cambodia and there is no possible way to compare Thailand now with Cambodia then or to compare with the way Pol Pot came to power.

This subject is about the precious minister of commerce and one fake G2G in particular, although this has yet to go to court and be proven one way or the other the fact that he and his cohorts have been through the impeachment process may give a good indication of which way a verdict is likely to go.

Until that court case is underway we will not see the evidence that the NACC presents against them but at this time we can access the evidence that was given to the NACC back in 2012. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/600926-rice-deals-with-china-fake-thai-democrats/

That evidence includes statements that the rice which was supposedly sold to China was sold for only 300B per sack against a market price of around 1500B + per sack. With the quantity involved that was calculated to have made someone a profit of 20 billion B. If that is proved to be true then that was effectively stolen from the Thai people

Do you believe that should be forgotten and forgiven in the name of reconciliation ?

You know very well by now what I want for this country, you also know its not that far from what you want so please don't finish with silly questions.

Easier going on the way down as it was generally downhill but the terrain was much the same with cultivated hillsides interspaced with bits of forest and second growth.

We stopped at another school for a quick lunch, this I am told is a Princess project. There was nothing planned to give out here and the children carried on with their school doings without taking much notice of us. One of the things we had been asked to take was basic school supplies such as pencils, rubbers, sharpeners and in particular chalk something that is hard to come by in this day of white boards. We had to order chalk from one of the bigger stationery suppliers and we had taken a large, heavy, box with us in our car. This had been left at Tha Song Yang with the coordinator of education in the area, known as the 'Director' to be given out to the teachers as required.

We passed some more road works on the way down preparing for the wet season.

We still had a large bag of soft toys with us so these were handed out to any little kids we saw on the way. We had taken two big bags with us that had been donated and others also had taken toys donated to and by them.

It was great how people came forward to donate things when they found out we were going, we had boxes of things mailed from as far away as Chiang Mai second hand vendors at the market stopped us and donated clothes and other things, as I mentioned before a shoe shop came up with a box of new shoes, enough for all the kids in the main village. People also donated money which the lady boss used to buy the medical supplies. We even had little kids wanting to give their teddy bear. People we had never met arrived at our door having driven the 140 km from BKK with this car full of goodies :

As well as the car full we took with us we had also delivered another load to the man who was coordinating from this end, and with what he already had at his house that had come from others he had to hire a truck to take it all up to Tha Song Yang, As everyone went up with a full vehicle much was left with the Director at Tha Song Yang to be distributed to the villages we did not visit through the teachers.

We still have a room full of clothes and soft toys for there was just to much to take. I hear there is another trip up there planned for early next year after the rainy season and before winter to take mostly warm clothes and blankets. Whether we go again will depend on several things but we will see. If we do go I will try to be more focused with my photography.

That's it. All that remains is to thank all of you for your kind comments.

Cheers, Robby.

About time they had a ready response group in that area so that as soon as a may day call is received fighter jets and, or helicopters can be scrambled to intercept any pirates and track any ship that is hijacked. Distances are short in that area so they should be able to be with a ship in trouble very quickly.

A combined ASIAN naval task force with at least one ship on patrol at all times should also put in place.

Could explain some of the crazy posts on this forum.

After being told by the bank on the 14th they were rounded up on the 17th, not bad going.

Seems as BS residents they were staying at the correct place.

Farmers and taxi drivers who had never had them before were given credit cards probably with little or no idea of the consequences of using them.

This was supposedly to help them out financial trouble.

Presumably they are still using them although by now they should have learnt of the high interest charged and the need to pay back what they have booked up.

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Your first point landed, the second not yet.

I followed your link and see a website with historical data regarding El Nino / La Nina. I expected a website with predicted rainfall / draughts about 4-5 years out.

Read it again and you will see it has predictions up to 2015, then try to get an understanding of the El Nino, La Nina effect which has a profound effect on world weather and rainfall in particular.

If you are really interested then look around for yourself. If not you are just another uninformed troll trying to have a go at me.

If people like you stopped writing things about him that would help.

Who cares....the less buyers the better in these times........

The farmers are ripped enough.....

You have that one wrong Chris.

The buyers are an important link in the chain from farmer to plate. It is the buyers who have the clients that want the rice and they buy what their clients want.

The farmers sell to the mills who then process (mill) the rice and sell to the buyers who usually have a good relationship with one or more mills which mill the grades of rice their clients want.

One of the stuff-ups of the rice pledging was that the Govt broke the chain and tried to insert itself as a buyer and a seller without having customers to sell to.

The major buyers who were cut out by the pledging scheme still had their customers to buy for so they went elsewhere to buy their rice, India or Vietnam mostly.

Now the Govt, country, has to get those major buyers back so they can get those buyers customers back. As long as the customer is getting a fair deal with the buyer they are confident in dealing with they are unlikely to change without good reason and now several buyers that were once based in Thailand are now established elsewhere and doing quite nicely thank you.

Not every mill and only around half the rice farmers joined the scheme (TDRI report) so there was still rice traded outside the scheme therefore not all buyers were forced to desert ship.

You say the less buyers the better but would you say the same for every type of business where the fewer there are the less competition and therefore easier it is to manipulate prices ?