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Baffled by the rule that he has to ask for permission to leave the country. Confiscate his passport / id documents and make sure he can't be settled in another country. Otherwise what control do the courts have?
He may well have bought other passports like his de-facto PM.
Now if he is caught trying to get away from the country without permission......................
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How do you re-enact fraud?
The 50 cops in the pic are not pointing at him. I am so confew' You are confused try counting again.
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It is interesting to see, what appears to be a very minor territorial dispute, evolve into a platform for posters to vent political venom, speculation and hateful posts.
I believe most people just read and move on, without the fuel from consumed beverages to aid them.
With respect what appeared to be a very minor territorial dispute in 2011, albeit deliberately fashioned bythe government at the time ( Abhisit deliberately sending his aide Veera Somkwamkid across the Thai/Cambodian border culminating in his, and 6 others, arrest) escalated into a situation with the Thai Army firing cluster munitions at the Cambodian Army.
It doesn't take a lot to get out of hand.
It seems strange that the Cambodian incursion into Thailand at that time happened straight after the reds had been cleaned out from BKK.
I hope it had nothing to do with Hun Sen's advisor being in a temper over his inspired and funded riots being unsuccessful.
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Another kick in the guts for the poor farmers who he and his mates were screwing, seeing them being able to put up tens of millions in bail while they, the poor farmers are struggling deep in debt.
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Dumb.
Why not every poor kid a decent pair of shoes, or milk at school, or free transport to school, or free lunch vouchers or free school supplies or.....or anything that hopefully actually has a chance of going to the kid.
Giving money to a family FOR the kid almost guarantees the kid will never see the benefit of it.
There is free school milk, and in some cases free transport to school particularly in military towns like Lopburi where the military provide school buses, with guards even.
In some instances there are free school lunches for poor kids and there was free or subsidised school supplies until PT took over and they cancelled that program because it was an Abhisit Govt inactive and replaced it with tablets.....Wherever they may be now.
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I see everyone sitting around and no one with a weapon guarding them. No wonder their losing.
Buy new glasses.. their hands are tied behind their backs, its hard to get up that way and run away.. also there are officers all around them.
Where are the others with guns........?.............
Do you need a gun to overpower a guy who has his hands tied behind his back ?
Leave them alone in their whinging, you have probably noticed its the same ones who complain and gripe on every possible topic.
They should be pitied for the pathetic life they must lead.
In this instance I very much doubt that any one of them has ever been in a Thai jungle and has no idea the problems these brave men who tackle these armed insurgents face. No doubt having to hike for many KM through jungle with the ever present risk of death or injury from being shot at by those whose agenda is to kill.
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When the Bosnia thing was going on, folk from all over were heading there for the chance to kill someone......
To be able to kill someone 'with no repercussions'
I have long suspected that this may have happened in Thailand where some people with no ideology have joined violent groups just to be able to do violence or kill and be able to get away with it.
Sort of like joining gangs because of their violent reputation.
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If Cambodia wanted to mark their border, they should have done it correctly the first time.
It will be interesting to see how this progresses, assuming there is a followup article.
Why didn't Thailand mark their border correctly when they installed an electrical anti poaching fence? Border disputes work both ways.
Thailand is famous for land grabbing along its borders!
Lordy, Lordy now a barbed wire fence to stop illegal border crossings has suddenly turned into an electrical anti poaching fence.
And Thailand has become famous for land grabbing.
There are some sick cases posting on here.
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UPDATE
I have just been informed by an excited complains department that she was on TV this morning.
One of the organisors of the trip is a PBS cameraman and a short Doco on the trip was shown this morning.
It is now on Y tube if anyone is interested and can be seen at : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV0gNN7qZGY
The relevant part is from 6.2 min to 12.56 min into the video.
Also informed that the village is 115 KM from Tha Song Yang.
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Moving on up an easier section of the road, and it was mostly up on the way in.
Accept for the occasional down to cross a stream like this one where a bridge sat unfinished except for an improvised walkway.
We came to a temple on top of a hill, it was the only one we saw and must have been a lonely existence for a monk for it was well away from any other habitation. For the village were mostly in valleys where they could take advantage any flats and the streams to grow rice.
I missed a photo of the monks accommodation which was an open sided thatched roof shed with a mosquito net hanging in the middle.
Before I go farther perhaps I should explain, the road was so rough in most place that I couldn't take photos on the move in the normal sense and just pocked the camera out the window, pointed it in roughly the right direction and clicked several times. So I've had to go through the results, throw out the garbage and try to pick out something reasonable.
As we got closer to our eventual destination we came to newest section of road they call 'fish tin road' this I am told is because they got the locals to hue it from the hillside by hand and as at that time they never even seen money let alone had a use for it they were paid for their work in tins of fish.
The start of fish tin road.
No Provision for oncoming traffic here.
Nor was any expected for the village we were headed to is the only one from here on and they have no transport of their own nor are they visited often.
Farther on up that road tomorrow.
Carrying on up fish tin road and almost at the top, you can see the top of the ridge where this section of road ends, the road then follows that ridge for a while.
We stopped at a the ridge top for a leak and look round and I took this picture looking back down, you can see the Cycas that I posted in Trees in the foreground.
From there it wasn't far, along the ridge and sideling around the hill, to our destination at the end of the road.
Just one last obstacle to negotiate with a large rock in the middle of the 'road' leading down to the stream crossing that had to be carefully bent around.
All day on the track and close to 80km from start point. must be about as remote as you can get in this country.
See you tomorrow.
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As long as you have the extension before you apply for a new DL: no problemA question.
First, my one year licenses expire next month, my passport expires this December and therefor my permission to stay also expires on the passport expiry date.
I will renew my passport more than a month before the expiry date and apply for extension a month before expiry date. (retirement)
Is there likely to be a problem with my application for a 5 year license because of the short validity of my existing passport ?
Ace and yourself a little contradictory...I will not have my new extension before the license is due for renewal nor will I have my new PP.
The possibility of a problem I foresaw was that as both my PP and extension to stay is for only for 5 months after the application for a 5 year license they may not want to give it.
Where is the contradiction?
If you have extension of stay, no problem. But you don't mention how you're staying in country now.
In my original post I said retirement but no problem.
Thank you very much for your help.
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Oh I'm sorry, by saying you are wearing blinkers you class that as an insult? Grow up Robby, it's no more an insult than to be constantly called a PTP/Red supporter..water off a ducks back, as should the blinkers comment, it means you see what you want to see, nothing insulting in that
You have no agenda or hatred? seriously? So you have no hatred towards the previous Governmemt and the family who ran it? That's odd as you come across as a very noticeable anti red hater.
I don't have a hate for the Army, I have a deep mistrust, having been in the Army, I can assure you, there's NOTHING democratic about it, you don't get to vote on what you want to do, you are told what to do... and that's exactly the way the junta is contrlling things now, like the people are to serve the Army.. sorry Robby, but the Army are there to serve and protect the people, not the other way around, like I said, you might feel happy about this line and direction, I'm not.
I have repeated this time and time and time again, I'd have prefered the elections to have gone unimpeded and the spinless Dems to have stood up and been counted, and to have proved once and for all that the PTP were the minority, after all the claims of the Shins and the PTP are that, simple claims, the proof would have come in an election.
Again, you completey focus on the trees, you avoid like the plague everything that's going on behind the scenes, with the much bigger picture, and you say you have a better grasp of what's going on ? Do you? That's what's great about having an open mind, and access to information that isn't banned within the Kingdom... you sound more like a frightened man, who wouldn't dare read prohibited articles, I would have hoped that in your years here your own curiosity would be the better judge, there's reasons as to why things are going the way they are, the Kool aid drinkers never acknowledge this... why is this? Like I said, I call it Apathy.
As for the Amnesty Bill, you're having a laugh, the Junta keep giving themselves one, so really, what is the big deal about it being as good for the goose, as it is for the gander?
The PTP had to go, no two doubts about it, and if you seriously keep believeing that the PTP and the Shins will keep manipulating these elections, then what you're really hoping for is for you and your family to live under a military rule for the rest of your days, and to hell with what the Thai people want ?
You really think and believe Corruption is dead and buried under the Junta? You mean it's buried, but rest assured, it's far from dead, it never will be, and corruption only becomes the big banner waving item after someone has been caught ot exposed, the last lot are being exposed, but with the amnesties, the current lot are about as transparent as pea and lentil soup!!
Again for someone who has lived in Thailand for so long, you really cannot be that naive as to the power play going on away from all the news and reporters, and that corruption is over.. that's not insulting you, it's an observation that you despite what you claim, do have an agenda, everyone has one.. mine, and at least I'm honest about this, is my mistrust for the Military, and the coup isn't what it seems..
Use your vote if you have one wisely, and vote for the person you believe will fulfil their obligations, if you don't have one, then it shouldn't worry you to the extent it does as to what Thais do with their votes, as there will only be another coup to sort it out anyway
I wont carry on with this as its way off topic other than to say you have me completely wrong, try looking around this site at some of the other pages to which I contribute and you may get a better idea.
Possibly another time, have a good day.
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Why should they speak a foreign language? Speak to the doctor in Thai, its Thailand
While in the mean time 100 000 doctors working in Thailand can not speak a word of English and prescribe antibiotic for muscle pain.My wife's niece went to the state school in Chonburi. She is now studying clinical medicine on an international English speaking course at a university in China and she was awarded a scholarship on her first year results. She did fairly well at school but was not at the top of the class. It is not all bad.
The issue is not the communication between Thai doctors and Thai patients : the issue is I don't believe a doctor can remain competent if he cannot inform himself of the the latest scientific developments on the internet which is 90% or more in English. The same applies to professionals active in other sectors requiring scientific knowledge.
Most doctors I have come across have some to good English speaking ability even though they see few English speaking patients. They can however read and write English.
An example of the English teaching at a Thai school. The Mrs has 2 sisters one with a boy one with a girl both the same age and in the same class at the same school, they are both bright kids. The boy stayed with us for a considerable time and speaks good English but cant read or write well, the girl however has not progressed past good morning and a few other basic phrases but she can read and write English although she doesnt really know what she is reading or writing.
The school teaches reading and writing but the teacher is not competent to teach conversation.
The girl for her reading and writing ability (copying from books) gets top marks for English while the boy is way down.
I have also met farmers who speak good English and bank tellers who can not. The bank I use has one girl with good English the manager has some very basic the rest have none.
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I genuinely am interested in what posters believe for every time it is the same, something that cant be talked about, you should know.
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I, we, haven't the faintest idea I, we, are just parroting what others have written, said.
I do know however what is being implied and it is an absolute load of crap invented for political ends to make someone look like the champion of the poor.
But that is another topic altogether.
If you took off your hatred blinkers, just for a single moment, and see past Thaksin, you will know exactly why the PTP cannot be in control when a certain day arrives, but it's the fear that's being generated that's causing the behind the scenes movements.
For someone who has lived in the Kingdom for such a long time, and seen the military grow stronger and stronger, and less and less accountable, you don't seem to have a problem with that.. I would call that Apathy.
You, and many others keep labelling anti junta people and pro Shins, I think you'd find that most don't want the Shins back in power, but what IS the solution Robby? Demographically the Poor areas have the greater electorate, you constantly whine and whine and whine about the Shins, but just answer this simple question.. what did they do between 2011 and 2014 to you personally, that effected your daily life?
You and many other Kool aid farangs really need to get over yourselves, your opinions, like mine are just like farts in the wind, but you get so irate and wound up, it's like you live and breath Thai Politics, if it irks you so much, and you have PR, why not run as an prospective MP against whatever the PTP will reinvent themselves as.
You're also naive if you think that ALL the stops are being pulled out to prevent the likes of Thaksin ever having control over the Government isn't happening.
Personally I couldn't care less about the PTP or Thaksin, it's not me who has the vote, it's all my family and friends, its up to the powers that be to convince them, and every other PTP voter that there are alternatives, and those alternatives HAVE to live up to whatever it is that they pledge to swing votes... but how can they swing such votes, when it's not allowed to be put to them. The Junta and the NCPO have stamped out political gatherings, so how exactly do you convince people that their right to vote, should be done for the right reason, so that the right people can run the country.
The Junta running the country should have only been a short term fix, but it won't be, the playing field still has too many obstacles on it, and the junta has the ball, and they're not letting go of it. The rumblings from the PDRC should be a combat indicator to may as well, Suthep and Issara are becoming more vocal, and as every day passes, their roadmap is looking like what the General is working to.
You just don't want to see past your own hatred for the Shins, and you lap up the Junta for all it's worth, yes its great the Shins are being pushed further away, but it's quite obvious there's a huge purge ongoing, you don't have to be a red supporter to see this, Christ, even outside of Thailand the press and TV are looking at what's going on in the same light, are they all PTP/Shin fans too.... that's just Childish when grown, senior citizens spout that nonesense.
All that hatred for the Shins on here from a certain section of Frangs will leave them nasty bitter old men, for some it's maybe too late
I would like the electorate to be given the chance to prove the PTP are in the minority, hold the elections as planned, and IF the PTP are outvoted, the winners can Reform away till their 4-5 year tenure is up. even if the PTP were to win, they know full well if they didn't cow tow to the likes of Suthep and Co, or to the Army for that matter, they too will be out on their erses.
Reforms before a referendum/election is nothing short of delaying tactics, and want to bet that is exactly what will happen, as the Junta don't wish to see the whistle blowing crowds back on the streets. Prayuth will do what he's told, he cannot allow a repeat of 2014.
The country is as divided today as it was then... reconcilliation seems to have worked well, more like a token gesture, whilst the ducks were being lined up. Reforms are needed, right through the whole infrastructure of the country, from the Army itself, 1000-1500 Generals says it all doesn't it?, through Educations, the economy all the way down to Family values.
You and a few others might think the Junta are the people to be able to do this, I and many others don't, and therein lies the problem, the Thai people have the same Status Quo, and until the people can start chosing their prospective politicians, then it's never going to get any better, but then again, who knows, and that might actually be the long term master plan.
You are getting right into the insults arent you.
I have no blinkers, can probably see things far more clearly than many on here for I have no agenda or hatred.
I do however keep up with the news and move around this country a fair bit and am a good observer, taking a lot of photos.
I have a lot of experience telling truth from BS and see a lot of the latter on here by those who do have an agenda.
I suspect you have noticed I can and often do post links and sometimes photos to back up what I write but even those are unacceptable to those who refuse to believe the truth.
For someone who wants to attack me call me bias you seem to an unreasonable hate against the army and Suthep.
Perhaps you would have preferred the amnesty bill to go through in its amended form and all the corruption that is now being exposed forgiven with the corrupt keeping their ill gotten gains, PT still in power with more threats and intimidation by their red arm to the courts NACC and anyone else they thought might prevent them doing what they want.
The rice pledging continuing racking up farther debt, did you know that the principal and interest repayments on the loans taken out since the inception of the scheme to the present day are 64 billion baht a year.
Had PT been allowed to continue in the way they were going do you really believe there would have been a free and fair election at the end of their term ?
You write about elections and letting the people decide, tell me what is the use of letting politicians who have proven themselves corrupt back into positions of power ?
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The target demographic is those with enough millions to buy this and who also want to live in a high rise condo in Pattaya which the vendor is having trouble selling.
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To answer some of the things that has been posted by those that have not bothered to read the OP or update.
At least one comes from Krabi.
They attended Islamic schools in Thailand then went to an Islamic school in Pakistan to "Farther their education" (in Islam)
The school they were attending paid for their education, (such as it is)
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The parents of one were spoken to by police, they said he was a good boy who lives by his religion, (so we are told do the IS).
There was one 9mm pistol which had been dismantled and they were each carrying parts or amo.
The parents want the govt to help them.
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massacre justification for the mass killing of demonstrators. There is also significant evidence of PDRC false flag operations conducted to encourage a coup.
As I recall when asked the late renegade general Seh Daeng said "no one saw me".
The fair evidence about the fire at CWT indicated various armed and fighting forces rather than 'army in control'.
To some obviously all activities of those who oppress peaceful and lovable protesters who saw and heard nothing and somehow know nothing as well.
Well, perhaps I do see the world through rose coloured glasses. Others may tend to see the world through yellow tinted shooting glasses.
I am relatively certain that the grenades fired at the MRT roof (one of which missed and killed an innocent bystander), and the grenade that injured the Canadian reporter Chandler Vandergraft, were fired by red shirt supporters. I believe they were the remnants of Seh Deang's little platoon. But when hundreds of thousands are protesting for democracy, and against double standards, and feel they are constantly persecuted and denigrated by unaccountable elites, its not surprising that a few are radicalised. Besides these incidents, I don't know of any other confirmed incidents of red shirt military-like violence.
In contrast, there is ample video and eyewitness accounts of military, PAD and PDRC violence.
Anyway, I guess you have characterised me correctly. I do find the democracy protesters generally peaceful and loveable. Likewise, I find those who seek to oppress them, to deny them basic human rights, the opposite.
You do have it bad.
They were protesting (rioting) against a legally constituted Govt that had was put together in a democratic and constitutional manner as a coalition in exactly the same way as the 2 previous Thaksin proxy Govts.
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Many of the rioters were paid to riot and there was an armed element among them as well as armed reds, a couple of photos once again and plenty more where those came from :
armed red.jpg blackshirt1.jpgThe General (now) was killed by a grenade fired from the red crowd there were malicious rumors spread at the time that he had been shot from behind in the back and head but that was proven to be untrue.
If you like peaceful protest for democracy then you must have joined the protests against the amnesty bill which couldn't have been more undemocratic. That's assuming you've ever been to Thailand.
While you are at it you might like to give us your spin on one of your peaceful red shirt leader heroes "burn BKK to the ground"
They were protesting (rioting) against a legally constituted Govt that had was put together in a democratic and constitutional manner
well if that is your starting point, ....
Please explain why it was not ?
It was put together as a coalition in exactly the same way as the 2 previous Thaksin proxy Govts.
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Moving on up an easier section of the road, and it was mostly up on the way in.
Accept for the occasional down to cross a stream like this one where a bridge sat unfinished except for an improvised walkway.
We came to a temple on top of a hill, it was the only one we saw and must have been a lonely existence for a monk for it was well away from any other habitation. For the village were mostly in valleys where they could take advantage any flats and the streams to grow rice.
I missed a photo of the monks accommodation which was an open sided thatched roof shed with a mosquito net hanging in the middle.
Before I go farther perhaps I should explain, the road was so rough in most place that I couldn't take photos on the move in the normal sense and just pocked the camera out the window, pointed it in roughly the right direction and clicked several times. So I've had to go through the results, throw out the garbage and try to pick out something reasonable.
As we got closer to our eventual destination we came to newest section of road they call 'fish tin road' this I am told is because they got the locals to hue it from the hillside by hand and as at that time they never even seen money let alone had a use for it they were paid for their work in tins of fish.
The start of fish tin road.
No Provision for oncoming traffic here.
Nor was any expected for the village we were headed to is the only one from here on and they have no transport of their own nor are they visited often.
Farther on up that road tomorrow.
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As I recall, the death of Colonel Romklao was attributed at the time to friendly fire, and DSI found no evidence of red shirt involvement. Seh Deang, a braggart and self-promoter, who was trying to gin up an actual militia for the red shirts from disaffected soldiers, intimated he was responsible for the death, and thus sealed his own fate. There are so many false flag operations in Thailand that it is difficult at any given point to know who did what, but there is fair evidence that the fires set at Central in 2010 were done by agent provocateurs aiming to provide some post-massacre justification for the mass killing of demonstrators. There is also significant evidence of PDRC false flag operations conducted to encourage a coup.
As I recall when asked the late renegade general Seh Daeng said "no one saw me".
The fair evidence about the fire at CWT indicated various armed and fighting forces rather than 'army in control'.
To some obviously all activities of those who oppress peaceful and lovable protesters who saw and heard nothing and somehow know nothing as well.
Well, perhaps I do see the world through rose coloured glasses. Others may tend to see the world through yellow tinted shooting glasses.
I am relatively certain that the grenades fired at the MRT roof (one of which missed and killed an innocent bystander), and the grenade that injured the Canadian reporter Chandler Vandergraft, were fired by red shirt supporters. I believe they were the remnants of Seh Deang's little platoon. But when hundreds of thousands are protesting for democracy, and against double standards, and feel they are constantly persecuted and denigrated by unaccountable elites, its not surprising that a few are radicalised. Besides these incidents, I don't know of any other confirmed incidents of red shirt military-like violence.
In contrast, there is ample video and eyewitness accounts of military, PAD and PDRC violence.
Anyway, I guess you have characterised me correctly. I do find the democracy protesters generally peaceful and loveable. Likewise, I find those who seek to oppress them, to deny them basic human rights, the opposite.
You do have it bad.
They were protesting (rioting) against a legally constituted Govt that had was put together in a democratic and constitutional manner as a coalition in exactly the same way as the 2 previous Thaksin proxy Govts.
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Many of the rioters were paid to riot and there was an armed element among them as well as armed reds, a couple of photos once again and plenty more where those came from :
The General (now) was killed by a grenade fired from the red crowd there were malicious rumors spread at the time that he had been shot from behind in the back and head but that was proven to be untrue.
If you like peaceful protest for democracy then you must have joined the protests against the amnesty bill which couldn't have been more undemocratic. That's assuming you've ever been to Thailand.
While you are at it you might like to give us your spin on one of your peaceful red shirt leader heroes "burn BKK to the ground"
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Going to be stitch up isn't it , surprise witnesses and everything
Who is going to be stitched up ?
This is an inquirey into Abhisit and Suthep.
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As long as you have the extension before you apply for a new DL: no problemA question.
First, my one year licenses expire next month, my passport expires this December and therefor my permission to stay also expires on the passport expiry date.
I will renew my passport more than a month before the expiry date and apply for extension a month before expiry date. (retirement)
Is there likely to be a problem with my application for a 5 year license because of the short validity of my existing passport ?
Ace and yourself a little contradictory...I will not have my new extension before the license is due for renewal nor will I have my new PP.
The possibility of a problem I foresaw was that as both my PP and extension to stay is for only for 5 months after the application for a 5 year license they may not want to give it.
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There wouldn't dare be a referendum saying they want him out, can't you understand why the Military government is needed in this period of Thai history ?
I find it unbelievable that you think all this has happened for the happiness of the Thai people, it's got naff all to do with happiness of anyone except the very very rich and powerful, who want to remain rich and powerful, Ptayuth makes one mistake after the transition, they'll be after him and his family like a pack of hounds.
I've always wondered who these "Very, very rich and powerful" are as you appear to know perhaps you could enlighten me.
Now who's trolling? ? you've been here long enough to know what's at stake and why things are the way they are right now.
I genuinely am interested in what posters believe for every time it is the same, something that cant be talked about, you should know.
Translation.
I, we, haven't the faintest idea I, we, are just parroting what others have written, said.
I do know however what is being implied and it is an absolute load of crap invented for political ends to make someone look like the champion of the poor.
But that is another topic altogether.
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In relation to the death of General Romklao Thuwatham in April, 2010.
The Generals (promoted posthumously) widow repeated asked, pleaded and begged Tarit to investigate his death and was ignored. Although it was reported in the BKK Post on the 12 April 2012 that Tarit said he was killed by 'men in red'. You know why no link.
Could some of this "New" information have been secreted away by the two in charge of the DSI and CAPO as it implicated the wrong people ?
That would certainly account for the reluctance to act on the widows requests.
As for why has it come to light now ? Well it has only just been asked for now as this is the first time Abhisit and Suthep have been required to produce defense.
Sure there have been inquests but they have been carefully selected ones which PT thought they could pin on the military, even then most have been inconclusive including the tragic death of the Japanese cameraman: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/821519-court-refuses-to-pinpoint-which-side-killed-japanese-cameraman-in-2010/
According to the BKK Post some of this new evidence includes photos and videos of the MIB and the red leaders and PT would not have wanted that seen as their story is that they never existed.
It must be getting closer and closer to the time when the red leaders are called on to explain their part in the riots.
The 50 cops in the pic are not pointing at him. I am so confew' 
Ex-commerce minister out on Bt20m bail
in Thailand News
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But he expected to get away with it Jamie, the amnesty bill was being prepared for just such people as him.
Had that gone through all corruption from 2005 to the time of the bill passing would have been forgiven, remember what the NACC said :
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/679702-thai-amnesty-bill-would-kill-25355-graft-cases-nacc/
Amnesty bill would kill 25,355 graft cases: NACC