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1 hour ago, IsaanT said:
Hi. I am an experienced beekeeper. Unfortunately, I'm down in Roi Et otherwise I'd come and remove them for you.
The chances are that they are apis mellifera, the European honey bee (your photo certainly looks like it). Your climate there suits them and most Thai honey is produced in your region; unfortunately, it's slightly too hot for them here.
I used to collect local swarms for our bee club members back in Cambridgeshire prior to emigrating (we would re-house collected swarms in members' hives). The method is very simple. Put a large box or container (plastic dustbin) under the swarm and give the tree branch they are hanging from a hefty knock. The bees will fall into the container. Obviously some will fly around but the magic now occurs. The chances are good that the queen (who is in the swarm somewhere) falls in the box. The bees in the container will stay there, even though the top of the container is open. The workers (all the other bees in the swarm) are attracted to her pheromones and, if they're not already, make their way into the box to join her. Have a cup of tea. Typically, after 30-60 minutes, all the bees are together in the box. Put the lid on (or close the flaps of a cardboard box) and then transport it away. You will be able to find videos on YouTube if you look for 'swarm collection'.
Usually, despite their intimidating appearance, swarms are actually very docile. It sounds like your bees are agitated so anyone attempting this does need to wear a bee suit.
p.s. I recently acquired two hives of miniature stingless bees (apis melipona). They're slightly smaller than house flies but, as the name suggests, are totally harmless and are great pollinators. 995THB for each hive, on Shopee.Too bad you're not local- I'd like to see how they're properly handled. From what I've been told, though, the Tessaban uses an experienced beekeeper who will take the hive to his property to harvest the honey. My neighbor also said a friend of his recommended someone who might come in the next few days (the Tessaban can't come until after Songkran)- the bees scared off his gardener, so he wouldn't mind seeing them gone sooner.
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5 hours ago, NORDO said:
If you are not trying to capture or kill them, then get a metal container and build a very smokey fire below them for a day. Not huge fire, just smokey. It disrupts their communications and they will swarm to a new location.
My aim here is to be an observer to the process rather than a participant. I could see this going badly, and I'm sure not the 'Bee Whisperer'.😉
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3 hours ago, ujayujay said:
Normal Thai honey bees, definitely not hornets! See YT video from minute 17.....
That's them.
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4 hours ago, Formaleins said:
Depends where in CM you are - but if you are in the sticks up here you should have no problem in getting some locals to remove it - If it is a really nasty one (mine put 35 in hospital) it will cost about 1000 Baht to remove the nest and they will keep all of the honey except maybe a couple of pints which you get.
It really depends on location, further into the sticks the easier it gets.
You do not want a hospital bill for everyone that gets stung if you are in a busy place.
I'm near the intersection of HD Road and the Middle Ring Road, so not the sticks. As I noted, the Tessaban will come out and take care of them- the bees aren't normally a problem, but there were a couple issues the last few days so they're getting evicted.
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26 minutes ago, digger70 said:
Split aircons have the compressor and condenser outside and fan they need cleaning when dirty.
Yup, and it needed to be topped-off with Freon and the drain needed clearing.
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The Tessaban said they'll come after Songkran (they didn't mention a charge, but I'd imagine it won't be much), so I'll try to live in harmony with the bees for another week (which really hasn't been an issue until recently). If I'm home when they arrive I'll post some pics on this thread.
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5 minutes ago, stupidfarang said:
What part of Thailand are you in? Here in the South there is a local goverment office that teach about Bees to locals. They will come out and remove bees so I suggest if you have a Thai partner they ask at the local goverment office for contact details.
I'm in Chiang Mai- we're still waiting to hear from the Tessaban.
i can't get a good picture- the lighting isn't great at the moment. While I was near them the neighbor's dog barked, and the whole hive pulsed like a heartbeat as the bees reacted to the sound- it was freaky.
Best I could do, and not much different from my first pic:
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14 minutes ago, jvs said:
Take a little bit better picture and ask a few Thais about.
If they are honey bees some one will want them and relocate the population.
This is a big one with a lot of bees.
We have them in the garden often,we just let them bee.
I'm pretty sure they're honeybees- the population has been increasing so it's time to do something, but I want to find a professional that will relocate them rather than kill them. The gardener working on the property next door was stung, and, as I noted, the AC guy had to bail on his job today and I couldn't get two units serviced, so I can't let them remain in place. -
49 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:
There are 4 types of honey bees in Thailand, and from your picture it looks like they are bees, not hornets, like in the picture someone posted in reply to your original post with the guy in what looks like a hazmat suit... hornets have that swirly paper-style nest they make, whereas the picture you posted looks like them all clinging to the honey combs that will be just under the surface of the bee covering... however, caution is advised as they might still be aggressive, and get someone in to sort it. The hornets are the ones to worry about, especially the Asian giant hornet that is super nasty... but it doesn't look like they are the ones in your picture as they prefer making their nests in the ground or dead tree trunks near the ground.
A couple have gotten in the house, so I know they're bees rather than hornets, and it does look like a honeycomb they're clinging to.
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3 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:
What I have in the photo is different from the picture of the OP.
And we had these terrible hornets.
And don't try to get close to them without such equipment.
Hornets would be a bigger problem, but these bees are becoming an issue- the AC guy who came by today was like 'Nope' and I don't blame him a bit. The bees came from the other side of the house to have a go at him.
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52 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:
Really bees? Not these lovely creature we had in 2022, nest growing cancerous? Painful sting and can be dangerous in larger numbers.
A brother in law had to be brought to emergency at hospital.
In the village it's quite easy. You ask around, ask the village headman and he will know who can take care.
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1 hour ago, Bill97 said:
Your tree?
Yes, on our property- here's a pic (sorry it's not the clearest- I was keeping my distance...) We were told the Tessaban might take care of them (not sure as it's our tree and not on public property) and we're waiting for a call back, but I may have to find someone, hence my asking here:
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I've got a huge bees nest on a tree next to my house, and it's becoming an issue (my AC can't be serviced, for example, and the bees freak out from the movement and noise).
Can anyone recommend a removal service? In Thai only is no problem.
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That was crazy- I haven't felt anything like that since I lived in Tokyo- the chandelier is still rocking.
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I did it three years ago following the online instructions and got it back in ten days (which amazed me- it must have been a slow week). I was able to get the required envelope at the post office no problem (I used the one near Makro Hang Dong).
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31 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
What year was it that you went there ??
How long ago is a few years ago ?
10-15 years ago ?
Not more than 5 (not too long before the mall closed- I can't remember exactly when it was, but I'm going by how old my daughter would have been). There was some event held there that she attended. I was actually surprised they allowed it to be used as it was in a part of the mall you'd never otherwise access, and would normally have had the entrance blocked. I wandered around a bit, and the flooring leading to the area near an outside stairwell had missing sections and gaps in it which looked very dangerous (though this area was sectioned off and blocked by a gate). It looked like the refrigeration equipment for the ice rink was still in place, and even the old concession stand was still there.
I was struck by how the large, high-ceilinged space was essentially going unused (I didn't get the feeling many events were held there)- it seemed like such a waste.
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I was there a few years ago and was surprised to see a full-sized ice hockey rink (on the same floor as the blowing alley)- it had been abandoned for quite a while and it must have been a very long time since it was used (it was pretty decrepit, especially along the outer wall). It was normally closed off, but they opened it for an event (the bleachers were still in place, and the floor of the rink was still pretty smooth and solid). The bowling area, in comparison, looked brand new.
A lot of money and effort went into that place.
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On 8/12/2024 at 1:05 PM, TooPoopedToPop said:
If Duke's pizza isn't the best in CM, where can you get a better NY style pizza?
Asking for a friend of mine from Brooklyn.
I'm also from Brooklyn- tell your friend that while there's decent pizza around (some of the places mentioned make a nice pie, though consistency varies- very good once, not the greatest the next time), he's never going to find what he grew up on.
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Kamthieng Market has pretty much everything gardening-related.
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Cheese
in Chiang Mai
I believe the Hideaway restaurant near Lotus Hang Dong makes several varieties of cheese- you could see what they have available.
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The video is in this article- as shown in the pics above, they had no warning at all:
https://thethaiger.com/news/national/hungarian-couple-injured-due-to-hole-on-chiang-mai-road
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The new PetPaw shop (which I believe is related to the new CMU animal hospital next door) is pretty good- it's on the Middle Ring Road not far from the Super Highway.
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Bee Removal
in Chiang Mai
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Ah, OK- I thought they were clinging to a honeycomb and producing honey- I don't have much bee experience other than being stung a few times (though none from this swarm have gotten me yet). They've been there for quite a while, but they only recently increased in size (they doubled in a very short time).
When they're finally moved I'll try to get pics as I'd like to hear from you if it was done correctly.