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9 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

Why is it always the Brits., they need to stay home if they can't control themselves in public.

There was a survey (poll) in a British newspaper some years back about what Brits looks forward to during a vacation; I was amazed to see that young British men rather looked forward to a fight, than dreaming of a holiday romance (sex, it said in the survey). I cannot easily Google it, so I'll not mention the percentages by memory.

However an academic study from 2008 showed up about young Brits, German and Spanish holidaying, where 11.6% of Brits where involved in a fight, whilst it was only 4.8% for Germans and 1.7% among Spanish. Not surprising young males were the vast majority.

A more recently published article from 2015 (available both in The Sun and in Daily Mail, however the latter I don't link to, as it's only accessable via VPN) says that young Brits prefer culture more than sex and nightlife, when travelling abroad; i.e. "No sex please, we're British"...

3 hours ago, sanemax said:

Although I do question whether those kids are being trafficked or not .

Why would a person go all the way to Cambodia, spend all that money and take a risk to get a mother and child here, when there are multitudes of Thais who would be available ?

Also, why would someone do that, for so little monetary reward ?

Why dont you see bargirls, with kids back in their village, bringing their kids into town and getting them to sell flowers ?

Reason being that theres little money to be made .

Why would a person go all the way to Cambodia, to get a child to work for them, when they would have the hassle and cost of supporting them ?

It just doesnt make semse

IMO, the flower sellers are just poor Thai families, just making a few Baht to survive.

 

I can only talk about the Samui kids being "imported", because that's a well known local fact. However begging-industry is a profitable business, re. several Thai news articles in the past few years. It's a profitable business to rent children to sell flowers, if it was not a good business, the Children would not be rented and moved from Cambodia. And no-one goes all the way to Cambodia to get a child, it's a well organized trade.

I think you misunderstood when I mentioned mention of "mother" in a previous post, I said it's the old lady looking after the flower selling kids in the nightlife, same old lady that I've seen for about 15 years.

If you visit Cambodia, you'll find numerous "orphan homes", and many more foreign supporters, that's also a kind of "business". One home I visited in Phnom Penh, all the children came from the same village. They were not really orphans, but had no future staying home in the village, so instead they organized an orphan home in the capital, and received donations from foreigners believing they help orphan street children. My Thai khmer-speaking girlfriend talked same language as the children, and she was told more than foreigners normally got to know. The children were also taught dance and music, so they could perform for turists in the city during evenings, and collect money. Kind of win-win situation, as the orphan home also included a school, providing a better future for the children than staying in a remote rural village; and as my home-country friend, a regular supporter of that orphan home, said: as long as the leader of the orphan home don't change his bad teeth to gold, he would gladly continue to support their school.

It's a difficult matter, because even kids may be "exported" in kind of trafficking, they may also produce an income for their families back home – just like migrant workers – however the children should be in school, rather than selling flowers in the streets at night. One poster mentioned »...trafficked children from Myanmar who have been sold to traffickers who promise to look after them, make sure they get an education and promise to send additional money home to their families,« which promise sound more like win-win, even we Westerner's don't like the idea; however we don't know if the kids got an education...

Thai bar girls however, to my knowledge, normally leave their children with their parents or grandparents, they don't rent them out; instead the girls work (even hard) to send money home to take care of their children.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Up to you, but IMO it's never acceptable to exploit children under any circumstances, but I have the quaint and obviously laughable opinion that people should only have children if they can support them.

Apparently it's normal to have loads of kids and then exploit them.

Thanks for your opinion, but you seem to miss the understanding of the different culture and way of thinking, where kids are an investment in the future, and meant to take care of their parents; even that also slowly begin to change in some Southeast Asian areas to the way Westerner's think. However in old time we Westerner's had the same way of thinking about children, being workers for grown-ups...

My New Year resolution from last year was to get rid of three kg too much weight; presume still valid, as I by now only need five more kg to go...
Considers to change my New Year resolution this year, and spend less time on TV-forum, and do more beach walks with the dogs; or just alone, if the dogs feels it's too much walking-the-dog...

–And I definitely don't make any resolution about cutting the amount of double creme pepper-sauce for my steaks...

5 hours ago, sanemax said:

OK . I m unaware of the situation in Ko Samui and I thought that the OP was referring to the Asiatique in Bangkok .

  Were I live in CM, we have a bunch of flower selling, begging , musical instrument family living in a shack down the end of my road , they are hill tribers and in Thailand legally .

   There seems to be about two grandmothers, three adult daughters and about ten kids under five , all involved in the family"business" .

   Some of the kids seem to attend the local school and they just earn a few Baht in the evening , you can work out how much they earn , by counting their flowers for sell and how much they charge for them, deducting the cost of the flowers, from their profit .

   They make survival money , not enough to pay off the mafia and also the mafia to pay off the police .

   Its hardly a lucrative  business and most criminals would not be concerned about getting their daily crumpled up 20 bahts from poverty stricken people .

  I did fell sorry for one of the flower selling girls , out late at night . I gave her 20 Baht and told her to keep the flowers .

  She insisted that I took them , explaining that she isnt allowed to go home, until she has sold all her flowers

Thanks for your reply.

The last sentence »She insisted that I took them , explaining that she isnt allowed to go home, until she has sold all her flowers«, says a lot about how the children can be, or are used.

However, as I said in my original post, with some common sense in mind, and when it's not late in evenings or night, children performing for tips, or help selling something in a (kind of) business, are All right; because it's a different culture, and some families – like you, user "sanemax" mention about hill tribes – need a way to find cash for living, which may seem inappropriate viewed through Western World glasses, when small children are exploited. It's a difficult question of balance, and accepting a different culture, and at same time not accepting trafficked kids...

23 hours ago, ghworker2010 said:

Is it beneficial to keep that registered capital to a minimum of 1m ? so that then the liability is limited in the event of something going wrong. 

One partner will be personal liable in a partnership, others are limited to their nominel capital.

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A Limited Partnership is in several ways similar to an Ordinary Partnership, though it provides for two types of partners. One partner whose liability is limited and the other partner whose liability is unlimited.

Source and read more, Siam Legal: Thai Partnership

11 hours ago, sanemax said:

Once again, do you know of these girls, or are you just posting what you think may be happening ?

It's common knowledge for long time stayers and expats at Koh Samui that the flower selling children are "imported" from Cambodia (re. my previous post). For years advertised and warmed about by a local Thai named Christie that started the original cabaret in Chaweng Beach. User PoorSucker is a long time resident and (extremely) well informed about local facts.

Please never buy flowers or souvenirs or... from children...

On 12/29/2017 at 9:49 AM, xylophone said:

Wines made from grapes only are not considered "Fruit Wines".

Wasn't that a question about Thai taxation, rather than fruit or grapes..?

I believe many of the so-called "fruit wines" we buy, are made from grapes (or based on grape-juice).

Seemed to have learned from another tread about the color of the tax label, orange or blue, depending of it's a so-called "fruit wine" or a "real" wine; where I also mistakenly also thought that wine from grapes, where not fruit wine.

6 minutes ago, laislica said:

 

OK OK

But I'd guess that there will not be so many in that fortunate position of great wealth?

Perhaps I should have added: For people living on a pension....

Wasn't this thread also about monthly income proof and or 800,000?

 

Thanks for your reply.
Could also be a combination of retirement pension from one's home country, combined one's small savings transferred to Thailand – believe those Brits that "wisely" left their savings at home, lost quite a bit baht during the last decade...

21 hours ago, laislica said:

Funds will have to be obtained from overseas.

Are you sure about that..?

No questions asked about from where the 800k baht deposit originates. In principle – to my knowledge – you can move (all) your savings to Thailand and live off the dividend, or just use your savings; in some cases smart to avoid currency exchange rate deviations... 

13 hours ago, ericthai said:

I have always used a small clinic for my work permit health exam never paid more than 200B most of the time it was 100B. Not long at all asked a few questions, blood pressure done no more than 2-3 mins with the doc and 5-10 mins at the clinic max.

Thanks for your comment.

However, some Immigration Offices don't accept clinics (any more), only health check from a hospital.

A kid or kids doing a dance performance in the early evening hours to entertain is all right, and if one like the performance, then give a (little) tip in the box. Some are actually training hard to be excellent dancers or musicians, and they make little income for their continuing learning, by performing at markets or in restaurants.

It's a different story when kids are begging, or selling flowers and other items, late evening or night. They should be home sleeping, ready for school next day. However, often those kids are not of Thai origin, but "imported" from neighboring countries for the purpose of organized begging-business – which selling flowers comes under in this case – and the best you can do is to avoid the kids, and never buy their flowers (politely say no thanks); they'll continue as long as there is a market, and buying, or giving tips, just prolong the business. 

My information about flower kids are from well informed Thai source, advertising appeals to tourists for not buying stuff from kids or children. I often see them, the flower selling children, myself; I live in a tourist area. None of them are Thai, but they speak (at least some) Thai, many comes from Cambodia. There is an old "mother" selling red roses, and some few times also a "father" together with the kids, controlling 20+ children at night. Sometimes the kid will be running fast away from beach party or night life streets, that's when the police comes, and it occasionally happens that the police confiscate the flowers and gives them for free to tourists; police can even walk into beer bars and hand flowers to the foreign gusts. Once – perhaps more than once, but I only know about one time – all kids were "arrested" and deported. For a number of weeks, maybe a couple of month, there were no flower and souvenir kids at all in the tourist destination, but then it was full again, and some of the children are very well known, as they have been in that particular business longer than 10-years.

20 hours ago, bttao said:

So, with the 800K in the bank the cost will be just the 1900 baht and the bank statement FEE (100?),

Most banks will charge you 200 baht, including Bkk Bank, as 100 baht for the letter, and 100 baht for the printed 3-month statement.

Some Immigrations also want a Health Certificate from a hospital, which is typically another 250 baht – remember to ask for "Retirement extension health check", as you otherwise may get a health check for Work Permit, which takes longer time and costs more (typically 750 baht and up) – but check first with a tread in your local area forum, what is required there of various documentation and certificates when applying for extension of stay based on retirement...

I buy these over the counter in Thailand – from more than one pharmacy – 20 x 10 tablets, each 10-pack list price 25 baht, 200 tablets with 10 percent discount, so 450 baht, i.e. 2.25 baht each tablet, which is chewable without bad taste...

11 hours ago, torrzent said:

What is the best fruit wine about in terms of taste, bouquet, finish, ease on the palate and of course cost.

Mainly a question of taste, and what wine one is used to; for example French wine, or Australian Wine, or...

I prefer "Peter Vella", comes for example in 4-liter cartons for 799 baht (red or white) in malls, and around 720 baht in Makro.

Tried "Mont Clair", which is very popular, but in my opinion not as good as Peter Vellea, or "Osborne" that is my second favorit at about same price. Perhaps because my taste is more for European wines, and not too dry ("very dry")...

On 12/27/2017 at 6:39 AM, superal said:

Can anyone throw some light on the subject from recent experiences ? Searched  and only post was 8 years ago so up to date info would be appreciated .

Depending of the length of the ceremony, and how much "face" the family need to make – question of social status in the local community – count somewhere between 30,000 baht and 100,000 baht (however, can be more). Location is also a matter, as some areas can be more expensive than others; i.e. at some tourist destinations costs are (much) higher than up rural Isaan.

A daughter with a farang boyfriend/partner will be expected to help with funeral expenses – or pay a major part – and may loose face, if not.

There is a recently new thread about "Thai funeral customs" that might be of (great) interest for you, sa number of posters also mentions funeral costs...

12 minutes ago, twizzian said:

SSDs are still too expensive for the larger Ext Tb, but that is the way to go if your feeling flush.

My good friend, who is Storage Manager at a large ISP-teleoperator and cloud service, told me that in their experience with SSDs, they fail at same rate at high quality normal Disc-Drives, but SSDs are (much) faster in operation.

Of my own four SSDs (in Thailand) one has already failed – glad I remember to regular take a back-up...

Cloud drives, by the way, work in RAID, so all date are double-stored...

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Largest external hard drives available?

I presume this IBM 5MB drive is the largest I've seen, and I'm also quite sure that it's "external"...

2 hours ago, Bill Miller said:

Thanks for that info. I will have to try going further afield perhaps, but for now the hospital keeps me supplied. I do not know what price, as they generally do not itemize, at least in English.
I had asked in just a couple of pharmacies and was told no.

If it's from a private hospital's pharmacy they often overprice, sometimes with a factor three to five, and probably also like to keep you as customer with a prescription. However, the pharmacist in a Thai pharmacy will normally give you an instant prescription for most drugs...

25 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Don't you need the lease (presuming usufruct filed with government here) to be issued by the actual land owner, in this case the government ?

No, Usufruct is different from Lease, and Usufruct can run for life, i.e. longer than 30-years. However, the building constructor, or owner of the project, need stated in the lease agreement that the leased land can be used for constructing a building, which is also needed for building permission at Tessa Ban. There might be more terms in a Lease agreement, and that's why a lawyer's assistance is advisable.

A Superficies agreement, however, gives permission for construction and ownership of that, and that can be combined with a Lease contract...

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Right of Superficies in Thailand

A right of superficies is a real property right (attached to the land or part of the land area covered by title deed) and legally separates ownership over anything above the ground (building) from ownership of the land. A superficies must be registered and can only be created over titled land administrated by the Land Department.

 

Laws governing superficies can be found in the Civil and Commercial Code sections 1410 to 1416 (see further down this page).

 

Superficies and land lease

The right of superficies can be registered as a separate right or in combination with a land lease. Normally superficies is used by someone (e.g. a foreigner) who acquires a lease interest in titled land and uses the land for the construction of a building. A registered right of superficies is a strong supporting right to a lease agreement, e.g. you could loose your lease (termination upon death) but your superficies remains in full force and can be transferred to your heirs

Source: SamuiForSale 

3 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

If you had for example UK property income, and paid UK taxation on it, while resident of Thailand, and remitted that income to Thailand within that year, that would be covered by a DTA and would not incur a second tax obligation.  

Isn't that what I'm saying..?

6 hours ago, davidst01 said:

...are there separate chanotes / papers for each shop?

If build on leased land, i.e. you said 30-years, then there is no title deed, but a lease agreement. You own the building for as long time as the lease period is running. Your best option is to have an experienced lawyer to check everything for you, and explain your legal options.

3 hours ago, Bill Miller said:

Most actually is 81 mg. Not sure why the odd number, but it seems appropriate here in Thailand where odd numbers seem to be viewed as more auspicious.
This is marketed in the US at least as children's or "baby" aspirin. Been taking it for a good few years now, off and on. I had stopped when prescribed clopidogrel as too many thinners can cause bleeding problems.
I was a bit surprised to find it a prescription item here, when you can buy more "serious" drugs OTC.

Thanks for your comment.

I believe it's not a huge difference between the 75 mg and odd 81 mg, probably due to some scientific studies. However, the study I refer with a link to – and similar later – found that increasing the daily doze to the double, or to a high level, i.e. 500 mg to 2 g a day, did not increase the cancer protection (in the studies), but increased the risk of internal bleeding.

I've never had problem buying the 81 mg Aspirin, or similar products, from the shelf in pharmacies here in Thailand – normally I buy a whole pack and get little discount; and with my limited self-dosage of three tablets a week make that 450-baht 200-piece pack last longer than a year...

To my knowledge it's normally the 180-day rule that matters about taxation; however one can continue to be taxable, or partly taxable, to one's original home-country even not staying there 180 days. 

Numerous countries have double-taxation agreements, in that case you'll not be double-taxed; fx. if you receive a retirement pension from your home-country, and that is taxed in your home-country, then it will not also be taxed in Thailand, if your home-country has a double-taxation agreement with Thailand. In principle one can have taxed retirement pension transferred to Thailand, same year as it's earned; a retirement pension might also be considered as kind of savings.

Some money earned in Thailand will be always taxed in Thailand; i.e. withheld-taxed interest from fixed bank accounts, and dividends from investments, etc.; but it should however be possible to claim that tax back, if one has no other Thai income, and the the taxable amount is under the minimum amount for taxation. I've never used it, so have no experience, but numerous others have posted about it...

I don't need a crystal ball to "be careful of road accidents at New Year" prediction...