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17 hours ago, Oldie said:

 

Please read this

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-21236690

Very interesting article. Thanks for sending it. In the case of these kittens, I don't know what kind of wildlife they could eventually kill in the heart of Chiang Mai, unless you classify cockroaches as wildlife. I've never seen any rats near where I live and not many birds. More likely if left on their own they would ultimately starve to death. In any event, they have an instinct for survival as strong as yours or mine. That means that they will kill and eat anything available rather than suffer a slow agonizing death from starvation. That's the law of nature, which neither you nor I can alter.

5 minutes ago, Oldie said:

In my condo complex we got several cats to get rid of rats. In the meantime the rats are gone. But also the birds are gone and also most of the squirrels disappeared. I like cats. But if you don't feed them and let them roam freely they will hunt what they can get. 

I hope that in the future they will be able to fend for themselves, but for now they are too young. They're maybe about 4 or 5 months old, and seemingly totally reliant on the food I give them. Hopefully I can eventually wean them off this food and they will be able to hunt, but I'm not sure if there's enough sustenance available around my building to support them.

On 10/1/2020 at 4:50 PM, NancyL said:

It would help if you post photos and videos of the kittens so people can see what they look like.  

Thanks for your idea. Here are two videos and three pictures.

4 minutes ago, NE1 said:

i fed a 3 legged cat for years , her owner used to spend a lot of time away so the cat used to come to my house to be fed then wander off.

She had Two kittens just recently and they came along with her to eat. ( Tesco canned cat food ) 

She got run over the other day and died , but the kittens still keep coming every morning. 

I will carry on feeding them till I think they are old enough or big enough to hunt.

We are in a village and the amount of pigeons and field mice give them plenty to go at.

There are a few cats round here and we are pleased  , they keep the mice and the bird away from the house.

Very good of you to help the kittens until they can fend for themselves. In my case, however, the kittens are in the parking lot of a large apartment building within the city. I don't think the opportunity for them to hunt for food will present itself when they are older. Your kittens seem to have a much brighter potential future in the village than mine do. For now I'll keep feeding them until another viable solution comes along. Thanks very much for your response.

4 minutes ago, malibukid said:

did you try and contact Chiang Mai Cats and Kittens adoption? also you can have them steralized for relative little money at Don Kaew Animal Hospital.  500 for males and 1000 for females.  about what a couple nights out would cost.  i am currently sponsoring 14 cats and kittens.  easy to get attached to these guys.

That sounds the same as Adopt Me-Ow Chiang Mai, which I already contacted. I sent them two videos and three photos of the kittens, as they requested. Adopt Me-Ow told me that the kittens were about four to five months old, which is too old for them to take. Is this the same organization or a different one? If it is different, then I will certainly contact them and see if they can help. Thanks for your reply.

3 minutes ago, steven100 said:

oh well ....  buy a can of tuna then out in the bush 

I'm afraid that's what I may have to ultimately do, but I'm seeking a more humane solution to the problem, at least for now.

13 hours ago, steven100 said:

take them to the local temple. 

The temples here in Chiang Mai have made it absolutely crystal clear that they do not want people dumping their unwanted animals on them. That was the practice in the past, but the monks today have more pressing things to do than care for these animals. There are even signs here with the red circle and the line bisecting it over pictures of both dogs and cats in many temples. Dumping an animal at a temple is the same as dumping it in the street. No one cares about it and no one will provide for it.

2 hours ago, dingdongrb said:

Having lived in Dongguang city for nearly 2 years I might have to disagree with this as I witnessed them having a liking to dogs. That was clearly seen with all the dog carcasses hanging in restaurant windows.

Maybe not the kindest and most compassionate way to deal with the problem of too many stray dogs and cats, but at least it is efficacious. In addition, it provides a cheap and plentiful source of protein for the people who need it. 

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Did you miss where he was told he could not keep them?

 

Surely the best answer is to have them put down? Thailand has enough feral cats and dogs. It does not need more.

Some time ago my companion and I had a pet poodle named Moji. At about nine or ten years of age, Moji became diabetic and ultimately blind. I had to give her insulin shots ever day. As her health declined, I eventually took her to the vet to ask that she be euthanized. He adamantly refused to do so. Apparently euthanizing even old, extremely ill dogs is not done in Thailand. Moji eventually died an agonizing death. If only the vet had been a kind and compassionate individual, Moji would have been spared this horrible end to her life. Where I am from in the West, the vet would have given her a simple injection and she would have gone to sleep never to wake again, experiencing a pain-free exist from this miserable existence. It was her misfortune to be born in Thailand instead. If the vet wouldn't euthanize Moji, he sure has hell won't euthanize three healthy kittens.

6 hours ago, malibukid said:

can you please contact Adopt Meow in Chiang Mai to see if they can sponsor these kittens

Yes, I already contacted them. They requested photos of the kittens, which I sent along with two videos. Adopt Meow said that they appeared to be about four to five months old, which is too old for them to place in new homes. They regretfully informed me that they sympathize with my situation, but that they cannot help me other than to suggest that I have the kittens sterilized soon and keep trying to find a place for them to live. 

1 minute ago, jak2002003 said:

Sadly I doubt you will find anyone wanting these cats. The place is swamped with homeless cats. Basically they are vermin same as rats...only look cuter. 

 

Your best bet would be getting then fixed so they cant make more kittens in the future, vaccinate them and you take care of them. 

 

If you can't have them in your condo, best to reduce feeding then gradually so they start to look for food in other places.

Thanks very much for your reply. I was thinking the same thing about reducing their food intake, but at this time they are still very young and probably unable to find food on their own. I also planned to check in to having them fixed and vaccinated. And you're right that there are certainly a lot of homeless cats running around Chiang Mai. If only there were a simple solution to the problem.

7 minutes ago, donnacha said:

Sorry to hear that, and I do understand that you are trying to do your best for these cats.

Are you aware of Toxoplasmosis? It is a brain parasite that is extremely common in cats that have not yet had all the necessary shots. Humans become infected by handling such cats or living around them. It causes detrimental changes in behavior and sometimes damages eyesight. There is not much doctors can do to treat it, and it is extremely common in Thailand.

Unless you are certain that all these cats have received all their shots, handle them with extreme care, wash your hands after touching them, and don't allow them to wander around your living area. Take particular care when bagging the used litter.

I only mention this because you may not be aware, and could probably do without any further medical problems in your life.

 

Thanks very much for the information. I hadn't thought about these issues at all. They are essentially feral cats, living outside around the building and in the parking lot. I just give them Whiskas dry food and pet them a bit when they come to eat. They haven't been to a vet, and they don't come inside the building or use a litter box. I'll exercise a great deal more caution in the future when being around them. 

3 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

What's wrong with eating cat meat?

 

recipes and facts

 

The recipes are really good, people in Guangdong eat 10,000 cats per day.

 

OP, let me know on Friday afternoon if you haven't found a suitable home. 

Thanks very much for your reply. I'll be checking more this week and get back to you Friday. 

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Wow...  really????....  but I’m still curious how someone could make such a hyperbolic interpretation from a rather harmless and simple comment....  

 

Stay away from the cat litter I think...  

I take a powerful pain medication, called Lyrica, for nerve damage. It's likely that the Lyrica impairs my judgement even more than the cat litter. Mixing the two makes it even worse.

2 minutes ago, donnacha said:

What a boring language English would be if nobody communicated with imagination and flair.

 

I certainly appreciate imagination and flair in English or any other language. I believe, however, that the essential function of language is to clearly communicate one's thoughts to another, which Puchaiyank did not do. If he, in fact, did take in a family of homeless cats then I commend him. He is a fellow animal lover. If I weren't an animal lover I wouldn't be doing all I'm doing to help these kittens, including incurring the wrath of my building's manager. I live in a small apartment and, therefore, cannot manage to care for one or more kittens. A more pertinent and helpful response would involve information as to where I can take these cats, which was what my original post requested.

Donnacha-- Did he clearly say that he took in the cats? He didn't say that at all. I read it as a lady and her children with pointed teeth took them. If the lady is the mother cat and her children are the kittens, then you're right, I did totally misinterpret what he said. Understandably enough, in light of the fact that cats are not ladies and kittens are not children. If he wanted to say that he took in the cats, he could have said exactly that. In any event, my post was seeking information about a place I could take the kittens to live. His response could not have been more irrelevant and unhelpful.

Sorry Puchaiyank but I'm a bit confused. Does the fact that the woman and her children all had teeth filed to a point somehow imply that they eat cats? If so, it is an utterly sick, idiotic, and meaningless response. I suppose it's a pathetic attempt at humor. I hope you don't make your living by writing comedy material because if you do you'll be the one eating cats and anything else you can catch for lack of any financial resources to buy food.

I live in a large apartment building in Chiang Mai. For some time a female cat lived around the building. She had three kittens about three or four months ago. This mother cat recently became ill and died. I have been feeding the kittens dry food to keep them alive until a place can be found for them to live. The manager of the building does not want them here, so I have been trying to find someplace where they can go. I tried Santisook Animal Shelter, but they cannot accept any more cats. Another agency, called Adopt Me-Ow Chiang Mai, takes only newborn kittens for placement. I wonder if any readers know of any other animal shelter or organization in Chiang Mai that can take these three small kittens. Any information would be greatly appreciated, not only by me and the manager of my building but also by three very cute kittens who desperately need an agreeable place to call home.

Does this mean we have to go back to Promenada to do the 90 day reports, or will we have the option of going there or to the new office near the airport? The airport is much easier to get to and the processing is much more efficient. I would hate to have to go back to Promenada. 

Thanks very much for the helpful information. Hopefully it will be working when I'll need it later this year.

What about where it says Longitude and Longitude? Obviously, one of them should be Latitude, but which one? And should we put the Longitude and Latitude of Chiang Mai, or something more specific? It's very confusing.

Hello. I wonder if anyone knows of a pharmacy or hospital in Chiang Mai that has Levitra pills available. The pharmacy I previously bought them at, near Thapae Gate, no longer has them. I bought two boxes at Chiang Mai Ram hospital, but now they also no longer have the pills. A call to the Bangkok Hospital pharmacy produced the same unfortunate response. At this time it seems there are no Levitra pills to be found in Chiang Mai. If anyone could tell me where or how I might obtain them I would be eternally grateful. Viagra and Cialis are easily acquired, so I don't need any information concerning them. Thanks in advance for your assistance in this grave and dire situation. 

Thanks very much for all the helpful responses to my query. I'll go to Bangkok Bank, where I also have a day-to-day passbook account in addition to a fixed account with 800,000, the day before my trip to Immigration. It seems certain that there won't be any complications in successfully obtaining my renewal.

Sorry, should have mentioned that my planned extension next week is of a Retirement O, rather than OA, visa. So no need to worry about mandatory health insurance at this time.