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chinook

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  1. It seems like the wrong approach. For one, what will this do to regular army personnel psychology? That their "duty" is a punishment? Why would loyal regular army personnel feel proud to serve standing next to juvenile delinquents in their ranks?

    Secondly, it won't act as a deterrent since the Thais readily admit that they are incapable of figuring out how to stop this "student fighting." So why would they be willing to compromise the integrity of the army and sidestep the core issues in an effort to "trial and error" a circus type approach of disciplinary management?

    If you were a loyal regular army troop, would you like to put your life in the hands of a "juvenile delinquent" conscripted into service as punishment? Would you, as a loyal regular army soldier, be comfortable charging in battle or skirmish, while the conscripted by force student fighter is providing cover for you?

    Thailand already conscripts, so not a great shock for the RTA, they're well experienced in dealing with naughty Thai boys and turning them into disciplined men.
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  2. Even if the two ladies had tetrodotoxin poisoning from fugu, they would have got severe physical symptoms within 5-30 minutes (during the meal) and not made it back to the hotel unnoticed. Nothing about the 'food poisoning' statement makes sense.

    it does

    What are the symptoms of pufferfish poisoning?

    Symptoms generally appear between 20 minutes and three hours after eating the poisonous pufferfish. The following are the most common symptoms of pufferfish poisoning. However, each individual may experience symptoms differently. Symptoms may include:

    Numbness of lips and tongue

    Numbness of face and extremities

    Sensations of lightness or floatingHeadache

    Nausea and vomiting

    Abdominal pain

    Diarrhea

    Slurred speech

    Difficulty walking

    Extensive muscle weakness

    Convulsions

    Respiratory distress

    Mental impairment

    Cardiac arrhythmia

    Death can occur within four to six hours of poisoning, so it is essential to seek immediate medical attention.

    Source: http://www.hopkinsme...ning_85,P01434/

    Thailand

    Pufferfish, called pakpao in Thailand, are usually consumed by mistake. They are often cheaper than other fish, and because they contain inconsistent levels of toxins between fish and season, there is little awareness or monitoring of the danger. Consumers are regularly hospitalized and some even die from the poisoning.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia..../Tetraodontidae

    But does this posion cause cyanosis ?....dont think it does....something like cynanide does..

    cyanosis......... yes it does.
  3. I wonder if they ever heard of "red tide" in this country? Probably because Thailand isn't one of those countries where it actually occurs... but with the weird s--t happening in this world, changing currents, weather etc. Perhaps there ~might~ be some areas where dinoflagellates are propagating ... in other words, this might be shellfish poisoning. I dunno -- beach resort... maybe seafood... doesn't take an Einstein to make a wild guess like this.

    The symptoms described sure as hell seem to match shellfish poisoning (and a lot of other kinds of poisoning as well... but just sayin').

    The problem is still Thai culture though -- they wouldn't want to lose face, and even if this isn't their fault... they'll hide the evidence so God knows we'll never figure it out. It'll just go down as yet another 'mystery'.

    puffer fish.........poisons loads of people in Thailand.
  4. I must admit that I have been among the first to condemn the carriers whenever they get apprehended at the airport. In some ways, I feel sort of sorry for this guy and some of the others who are used by major cartels to carry for them. He probably comes from a dirt poor family where the sound of "One thousand Five Hundred dollars" is jaw droppingly tempting. It would probably lift his family out of debt or his family may even be in danger, who knows.

    But, then again, some people get greedy and then there's just plain stupid.

    Until the Thai police start getting serious and follow these mules up through the 'food chain', they will always catch the small fish and never the sharks.I am sure they must use different methods in the western world, like detective work, follow-up, tracking, investigation and major arrests.

    Maybe someone on this board has knowledge of procedures in U.S.A., U.K., Australia etc and can comment.

    Thai NSB work very closely with the Aussies, Dutch etc...........and don't forget the D.E A......every U.S. Embassy has a team that are very eager to catch the sharks.
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  5. It's often caused by alcohol abuse. A Yorkshire chap in his early forties called 'Sharky' whom I vaguely knew from BKK a few years back died in Hat Yai Hospital last week after living on the streets and bottle too long. Septic shock and severe pneumonia.The problem with giving these sorts money is the likelyhood of them misusing it and worsening their situation.

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