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Admittedly, it looks to be a pretty chart, coloured very nicely. Now show me in quantifiable terms the impact the WHO had on reducing the loss of life during the pandemic. This one is interesting: The WHO failed badly on the most common sense action they should have taken. In fact they acted against common sense and went in the opposite direction. Instead of working with those who were actively seeking mitigations other than the mRNA gene therapy they focused on denouncing those who did have successes. And they did nothing to quell the active suppression of those good people who were experiencing success. Rather, as they themselves show in their pretty chart, they jumped on the bandwagon of suppression. Go ahead and defend the indefensible if you like. The WHO pushed the mRNA gene therapy solution as the only solution just as much as pharma, who had much to gain, did. Why? If you wish to argue that in a world where there is always more than one way to skin a cat that in the case of the pandemic the mRNA gene therapy was the only solution possible in all of existence then by all means, knock yourself out convincing yourself of that. But you won't convince me. I'm of the opinion that the mRNA gene therapy was pushed as the only solution for a number of nefarious reasons, for which volumes of evidence exist that you refuse to look at. And as long as you refuse then you cannot consider yourself to be an objective analyst. Neither did I see any effort by the WHO whatsoever to assemble information from around the globe to see what countries were experiencing success and promote their best practices. Sweden, for instance. Or those countries who were dispensing Ivermectin to their citizens, whilst the entire West was in unnatural lockstep to ban it. On a final note, if a person or entity is accused of failure, or even malfeasance, that person or entity would be the last whom I would be asking for explanations and then taking their explanations as gospel truth. That goes against all common sense. But here you are, slavishly doing just that. Anyway, dispense with all of the pretty charts and stacks of reports produced by the culprits themselves. Show me some quantifiable evidence of the WHO's efforts reducing fatalities.

@KannikaP I'm calling it a night but before I do I want to wish you and you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Seems to me you live it year round. Thanks for the excellent conversation.

My favourite Christmas movies: This recent French movie I consider to be a classic for it captures perfectly the meaning of Christmas, albeit under gruesome circumstances.

One of the most gorgeous photos I've ever seen! Please PM me your address. I promise not to wear out my welcome. As soon as that pan has been licked clean I'll be on my way.

@KannikaP My wife and daughter went out for the day. They just arrived home and picked me up something to eat from the market. One guess as to what it was. LOL

More like insanity, why, in this day and age, is a virgin birth even considered as a possibility? You seem to miss @rattlesnake's point of respect. For surely you hold beliefs that others would find to be similarly insane and for which you could be ridiculed for believing in. So, respect. Respect for an individual no matter what they believe. Put the other's shoe on your foot and you'll easily understand Rattles' post. I guarantee that if it were possible to list each and every belief that anyone holds and then attempt to reconcile the totality of one's beliefs, fitting them all together in order to paint a unified, holistic picture, you would find that the picture created would be strange indeed and make very little sense. You would marvel just at the sheer quantity of outright contradictions that you would find, let alone the number of beliefs that utterly fail if put to the test of logic.

My wife doesn't make her own moo satay but there's a vendor at the local market here who excels at it. And he's very generous with the peanut sauce. Even after giving each satay a full coating I'm still left with a number of teaspoons full. And I'm not embarrassed to admit that i wipe the bowl clean with my finger. I'll have to try the homemade vino. Do you think Leo bottles will work as well? LOL The both of us need to get back to posting on the "Blasts from the Past" thread. I'm with ya on the Beatles. Would love to hear about your career, too.

Thanks, riclag. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family as well. I can't very well send you a Christmas present but I can give you the gift of music. The Harry Simeone Chorale's '58 recording, The Little Drummer Boy: A Christmas Festival, is my favorite from childhood. Most every radio station, at least in the U.S., plays the version of The Little Drummer Boy off of this album. This is the entire playlist. The carols are in the form of medleys. They're all quite short. But I prefer traditional Christmas music. Also tops for me are the choir recordings of King's College, Cambridge. Plug it into YT if it's up your alley.

Live and live? How many murders have been reported just this week, Thai on Thai? Just because there are Thai on Thai murders here, no different than in any country, doesn't negate the fact that the general attitude is one of "live and let live." Coming from the West that attitude was a marked difference that was obvious at once to me when I first came here. People here tend to mind their own business, very much unlike the west. Unless, of course, you're getting either robbed, beaten, stabbed or otherwise assaulted in broad daylight on a busy street. That's about the only time Westerners seem to be strict about minding their own business. Perhaps I shouldn't generalise by referring to the entire West. Since my experience is chiefly American I can say that it certainly applies to America.

Now that sounds like peace, joy, good will, love, happiness, and cheer. If that's how you conduct your life daily then I'd say you're living the Christmas spirit everyday. Good on you. And no, that spirit doesn't need to be tethered strictly to Christianity. Not for me. You're eating well. Two thumbs up on the moo satay. Or as my wife refers to it, moo steak. Wonderful stuff. And it never gets old. I put it right up there with pizza. LOL The vino is a special touch. Invite me over any time. As to Christianity, I grew up a Catholic. I used to stay in a Franziskaner boarding house going to school in Germany. We had a small chapel and I was selected to read from one of the books in the Bible, can't recall which, in Latin. I dropped out of religion in my teens because too much of it didn't add up. I therefore don't blame anyone for religion leaving a bad taste in their mouth. On the other hand I respect those who choose to follow their faith. I don't agree with them on much but I won't trash them for what they choose to believe. That cuts both ways, after all. I do understand the symbolism of Christmas. There's nothing negative about it. Unless someone chooses to read into it what's not there. So I do enjoy it. As Scrooge would say, "let me keep it in my own way." I enjoy it much more here in Thailand, away from the commercialisation of it. Although the marketing companies are certainly attempting to create a market for sales out here. But even that I don't get exposed to as I'm not around it.

One thing I love about Thailand is the "live and let live" attitude of Thais. Westerners, on the other hand, tend not to be able to keep themselves from sticking their long noses into everything and anything that they don't approve of so they can trash it. I dunno. Maybe they suffer from a superiority complex. Or maybe they're just mean spirited. Anyone care to say which?

Nope, JC's father was a pigeon with nick "Holy Spirit". The one you mentioned was watching and later JC comment his spirit This has gone downhill quickly. LOL

Well, what does Christmas mean to you? Pray tell.

Well, not God. But Christ. God has no DOB, as I understand it.

I hope they like each other. That's a tough one. Sorry to hear.

That makes it easier.

I assume you understand what symbolism is. Christmas, I'm sure, has different meanings for different people but I'd safely assume that despite the differences the general symbolism is agreed upon. The birth of Christ represents a gift of hope, cheer, good will, peace, love and joy to mankind. I'm sure you're not so hardened that you would object to desiring those things for yourself, your family, and the world. One needn't be a Christian to celebrate what Christmas symbolises. I, for instance, am not a Christian. Nor do I subscribe to any religion. Yet I easily understand what Christmas represents and I say "good." I'm in favour of celebrating that everyday rather than only once a year. What does Christmas symbolise for you? Religious fanaticism? As I said, Christmas assuredly has different meanings for each of us.

You can count. Good.

The wife and GF? Not one and the same? Sorry to hear about your family. You two are the sole survivors?

Must have been one hellavu hangover. LOL

Wow. Christmas Day, 90 views thus far, and not a single, solitary Christmas greeting from anyone. I admit I'm surprised.

LOL. For many, that's all they are interested in.

Au contraire. The released documents were crowd sourced due to their immense volume. Lots of damning facts. The reports can be found here: https://dailyclout.io/pfizer-and-moderna-reports/

Not at all. You were a respected poster with a lot to offer. I'm grateful to you. Were you in Thailand you would have been invited.

Hey TBL. Interestingly enough SunMaster, Red Phoenix and I just got together for dinner for the first time this past Monday. It was grand. In fact your name came up at dinner. I tired of the God thread. I guess some subject matter is simply best left to oneself. Very, very few people are willing to even consider different ideas, no matter how sensible they are. Most are only interested in abuse. I agree with your post except I'd make one edit. Remove the 2024. Governments the world over have always been a magnet for the worst that humanity has to offer. They have their eye on a nation's treasury with designs to skim for themselves, and power which they can use to benefit themselves in multiple ways as well. Good to see you still posting, too.