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5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Not sure what you mean.

For income method without income letter from embassy he would need to show 12 months of transfers (at most immigration offices) for extension. 

I have responded before seeing your last post.

Hopefully - My post has framed the actual requirements correctly.

29 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Does your embassy provide income letter.

Eg not UK, USA or AU. 

No - The Embassy does not provide an income letter - UK passport

If arriving back into Thailand on a Visa Exempt and applying for a change to O Visa (also for 1 year extension afterwards), can the 65K Thb income method be used?

Or is this option only available for the renewal of the extension - 1 year later?

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7 hours ago, WTProduction said:

I crossed to Vientiane via Friendship Bridge yesterday and they did ask me for proof of Vaccine or ATK (Antigen Test)

Was the proof of vaccine enough - or was it required to be certified (as identified by UbonJoe in the image) - I am assuming that this means notarised?

The summary of the other thread identified by RedArmy Using the Train:

Getting out of Thailand and into Malaysia is obviously not an issue. Coming back using the train is not as straightforward. I was surprised to read on the thread that many experienced trying to get back into Thailand, immigration was not open on many occasions. This seems odd since the Komuter train from Hat Yai it would be pointless as the station is on the Malaysian side, or for the Butterworth train since many on this train would be crossing the border into Thailand. There was one comment that said the Thai immigration in the station was closed in the evening. The issue seems to be about the train timetables either side of the border at Padang Besar and then getting a suitable train leaving for Hat Yai. The main issues is the time limitation between getting off the Komuter train coming from HatYai and getting on a train going back to Hat Yai since the train leaves about 20 mins after arriving and possibly there might not be sufficient time to get both immigration stamps. I am guessing here that the timetables have not been organised for border runs, but rather single journeys coming into and out of Malaysia.

From your post - You seem to be saying that you will walk across the border and hence doing the border run will probably not be an issue. Taking the road down from the railway station, exiting Malaysia and entering Thailand used to be simple, but recent times might have changed and the issue with new immigration might be different since there has been few border run reports in the last few years with Covid. The concern would be if it was now the same as the Wang Prachan border where one night is required in Malaysia. As a result the visa run companies in Phuket charge 5,000 Thb to do a visa run to Wang Prachan and the van companies are saying that immigration require a re-entry permit charge 2,500 to be paid to overcome this issue.

You are probably aware, but after walking back into Thailand via the roadway, down from the station there is a bus every hour that takes you into Hat Yai for 42 Thb.

45 minutes ago, Onerak said:

eBikes are not needed to be licensed and you don't need a driving permit to drive it in Thailand also. It does not have a license plate. My friend has one. I was going to buy but my old yamaha Nuevo is now ok for me to run in back alleys. Bolt is for all other transport. 

Brilliant clarification Onerak - Thanks for that.

2 minutes ago, tandor said:

..you mean 'not got'.

I only got up to 50cc  on license. 

39 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Lots of bikes you can ride in Thailand electric and engine ones to ride if you want pay fines without DL. 

The problem is if you cause a serious accident.

Ha - Yup - You are right Kwasaki - It's between a rock and a hard place decision.

Life is just a Dilemma!

18 hours ago, Onerak said:

I don't know a motorcycle with 50CC engine. The smallest I have seen in Thailand is 110cc. If somebody knows a 50CC bike, please let me know. 

After reviewing supply online it looks like there is nothing but a very old Honda Dream that for sale, obviously not worth considering.

The other option is eBike, known as 'electrically assisted pedal cycles' ( EAPCs ). In the UK You do not need a licence to ride one and it does not need to be registered, taxed or insured.

My assumption would be that this is the same in Thailand?

11 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

As thai girls say, you think too mut. No charge for Wise transfers, but to reassure yourself, send a small amount to test

Ha - Nice comment scubascuba3 - Sounds like a plan - Thanks

11 hours ago, Enoon said:

Travel insurance issued in the UK will not cover you for operating any vehicle in Thailand unless you possess a licence to operate such a vehicle in the UK. 

 

If you use a 250cc in Thailand and you do not possess a licence for a 250cc in the UK your travel insurance will not cover you.

 

Whatever Thai licence you possess is of no interest to your UK insurance company.........they know Thai licences are worthless as an indication of adequate rider/driver competence.

 

If you can't pass the 125cc test in the UK before you go to Thailand you are ****** as far as coverage by travel insurance is concerned, because the smallest you will find to ride in Thailand will be 110/115/125cc.

 

But don't let that stop you.......Thai MC rental companies are completely irresponsible and don't give a **** if you live or die.

 

They will rent you whatever you want and you can easily bribe your way out of any speeding or minor to medium infraction (real, or invented by the RTP) that might involve the uniformed scum that comprise said RTP.........they really are the "Filth".

 

See you on GoFundMe.

 

 

Good point Enoon about the insurance needs a license to cover the same vehicle.

10 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

No charges at Kasikorn

Ahhh Brilliant Thanks scubascuba3

I did find this on the kasikorn page, which said domestic deposits interbank there was 3 different criteria and was not conclusive.

1) Commission-in-Lieu (Deposits) = 0%

2).  Commission-in-Lieu (Withdrawal) = 0.25%

3) Other  = 0.25% (max 500 Thb, Min 200 Thb)

This is Page 4 - Section: 2nd on Page of the 2 sections:  Domestic funds transfer Interbank 

https://www.kasikornbank.com/en/personal/Account/Documents/FeesFCDDepositandWithdrawal-en.pdf

From the page this did look to me that possibly the worst case of a Wise transfer using a domestic bank with Thb funds was a Commission-in-Lieu (Deposits) = 0% and 2.5Thb per 1,000Thb identified as OTHER (or  £2.50 per £1,000) transferred.

It sound like you have the experience to know that there is no however charge - So thanks for that.

I am converting GBP to Thai Baht before transferring funds via Wise into my Kasikorn Bank account, but I can not remember what charges are made by the Bank. I understand the Wise charges, but now returning to Thailand after two years I want to understand the costs from the Bank.

Looking at my Bank Book I can not see any charge identified from my previous International transfers.

40 minutes ago, Pmbkk said:

 

If you've already got an IDP recently what is it, 1949 or 1968 and when did you get it?

 

The Uk GOV website says 1968, but the post office did say 1949 until a few weeks ago.

I wrote an email to the post office saying they're form was wrong - I added a comment in a thread on here a few weeks ago detailing the discrepancy.

 

Now the Post Office has updated their website - no thanks from the P.O. for me correcting them ????

Not even a free 5.50 IDP.  ???? 

 

https://www.postoffice.co.uk/identity/international-driving-permit#IDP-Checker

 

 

To drive in Thailand you will need an

International Driving Permit 1968

 

Permit valid for 3 year

 

 

I have not yet got this yet Pmbkk - I would be doing this Friday.

You raise a good issue and there are a number of forums that point out the same. The local Post office is not any help.

It however sounds like you are on top of this - Well done.

15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Thant sounds like you have little to no experience in riding bikes at all or bikes > 50cc.

Maybe think again if you want to risk riding a bike, any bike, in Thailand.

When I arrived here many years ago, I used motorcycle taxis for maybe two years basically every day. Doing that gave me an idea what to expect from all those other vehicles - basically expect them from anywhere anytime. I also learned about the streets and all the legal and illegal shortcuts in my area.

Then, after a few years gathering experience on the back of bikes, I bought my own bike here and I am almost accident free - at least nothing that hurt.

Riding here is very dangerous. Be careful!

And many Thai motorcycle riders don't have any license - just to give you an idea.

Yup Yup OneMoreFarang - completely correct - I am not experienced.

I get what you are saying and I would not dream in taking to the roads and alleys of Pattay...at all, ever.

I have found on Google Maps a quiet track running parallel next to railway line and then some backroads on the last leg to the coast. 

I aim to use the experience to get better at something I am definitely not good at.

My other option if the Motorcycle does work out is to simply go to Lotuss or Big C and buy a pedal bike and do the same journey - If my legs allow!

Now reviewing the answers to my question by you guys - Seems that motorcycle test is quite a good option - It does not seem like a huge commitment and relatively low cost from reports on the web.

Is this fairly reasonable and straightforward?

9 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Do the Thai motorcycle test.

Yup - That looks like the only real choice - If wanting to reduce future road risks.

1 hour ago, digbeth said:

There is no currently legal under 50cc bikes in Thailand, under 50cc bike are not classified as roadworthy in Thailand at the moment(it was at one time in the past) so no, you can't ride bikes on car license from the UK

Mnnn - Good point digbeth - I didn't realise that.

I will arrive back in Thailand in the next few weeks and want to use a motorcycle for trips around Sattahip and Chonburi, possibly about three times per month for the next six months starting from Pattaya. 

I have a full car drivers licence, but not a full motorbike licence, which in the UK allows for engine size up to 50cc without displaying L plates or passing a Compulsory basic training ( CBT ) course.

As I understand there is the Motor Vehicle Act B.E. 2522 (1979) that allows foreigners with appropriate licence from their own country to drive in Thailand. This is section 42 bis.46 bilateral agreement - Thailand Government reciprocal recognition of foreign domestic driving licenses

Although not strictly needed I will arrive with International Drivers Permit (IDP) just to ensure if stopped and requested this will be available.

Q1: Should I restrict my Bike to the same UK limit of 50cc?

Q2: Will my licences theoretically cover me to drive a motorcycle while in Thailand?

These questions are asked knowing that the police may act possibly in ways that does not reflect what is the actual law.  

6 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You only need proof of 20k baht being in the bank when you get the bank statement.

Is this acceptable in any currency (with equivalent amount) or is this only acceptable when its Baht in a Thai Bank?

- I am assuming cash would not be acceptable?

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

But it's his choice to comment, not yours, regardless of your esteemed opinion being that it has been "done to death".  Your post is "nothing new", either!

Utterly Brilliant Response - The freedom to think and provide reasonable expression is not the control of one person granting this right to others.

4 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

 

 

MANY airlines do not offer online check in for international routes.

 

 

 

Here are 500 Airlines that do offer online check-in Link

From your comment - Its not clear what your argument might be if many airlines do offer online check-in?

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Why quote slabs from particular airlines. As per the above quote. 

 

MANY airlines do not offer online check in for international routes.

 

In November I fly Oz and back with Jetstar.

No online check in is possible.

 

Just one example...AirAsia.

For flights Vietnam to Thailand there is no online check in.

Check in is counter only and opens 2 hours prior to flight.

BTW you will be asked for onward flight without visa or reentry permit for that route. 

 

Stick with same airline...even when kiosk check is available eg Bangkok to Vietnam and you obtain boarding pass..

That is checked again for visa at boarding gate.

 

I can go on. 

Your posts above are naive and then you go back through thread and laugh emoji on my threads. 

Fine. 

 

Why have I made a copy and paste of the exact wording - Really?

Because it's available information that could potentially provide better general understanding of what forum members can expect from one of the largest airports in Europe, I thought that their knowledge of what Airlines generally expect from their online and Kiosk check-in would be helpful to other members. 

You forget to include the core in the rest of the text of your quote reference to online and Kiosk check-ins, “if you are travelling with hand luggage only, then head straight to security” - When this is not included then the partial citation becomes valueless and misleading.

There are over 5,000 airlines (with ICAO codes) and you identify two of these airlines not having online check-in. This clearly is not a well thought out argument if simply providing your own personal experience for using two of these airlines. This is not a subject about AirAsia or Jetstar, your argument provides no consideration of the thousands of airlines that do provide online check-in. But even in the example you provided, AirAsia do have an online check-in service for many destinations.

 https://www.airasia.com/check-in/en/gb. 

My post was an offer of information as an option on some airlines. Your response claims its naive that online check-in would be useful because you were unable  check-in on a some flights. This neither addresses the fact that many more flights do provide check-in nor provides any contribution to deeper understanding of the option itself that when only having cabin luggage there might be a way to reduce risk for providing the proof of an onward flight.

I found it a struggle really to find any value from your comments or follow any sensible argument that was being made.

Finally your last sentence I regard as personal. What was the purpose of becoming insulting?

Just a quick consideration however bearing in mind my previous comments made by airports - However some airlines have specific requirements in their T&C's.

For example British Airways says..

• Check in from 24 hours before your flight departs with the British Airways app.
• Available for mobile, iPad and Apple Watch.
• Download your boarding pass (for flights departing within 24 hours) for return and (where possible) connecting flights.
• At the airport
• Can use our airport kiosks to check in and print your boarding pass.
• All you need is your booking reference (PNR) or passport.

BUT......in a separate part on a different page it has small print:

Always ensure you have the correct travel documentation for the country you are travelling to.

If you're travelling on an intercontinental flight from London Heathrow we will need to check your passport and visa before you go through security.

However - Its not clear how this check would occur - The instructions by the airline are to go directly to security after online check-in.

It's probably a good assumption that BA is trying to pass accountability to the passenger without a robust process in place for any actual checking to occur - Who knows, but possibly used as an argument to obtain payment for the return flight.