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1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

The NI court found the same as the English Court. The Scottish court found differently but stopped short of ordering parliament to repeal the suspension. All have noted that an appeal can, and indeed has, been made to the Supreme Court.

 

We await their ruling next week.

It clearly shows that who knows what is happening with the courts but the fact remains, people want to stop Brexit happening. Indisputable. 

1 hour ago, Bruntoid said:

Wow I think this is getting to you - there is so much evidence of the demographics of the vote out there it’s embarrassing you’ve asked.

 

But remainers provide evidence as opposed to one line garbage so here you are 

 

fullfact.org 73% under 24 voted remain, Mori 75%, YouGov 71%, Question Time poll 73%, British Social Attitudes (BSA) 72% etc etc - Enough to be getting on with ? loads and loads more but it’s polite not to kick a man when he’s down

 

But when you do come up for air show me something that counters that, that shows the youth are likely to, or have voted leave 

 

oh wait but they’re all bias right ? Remarkably similar percentages but it’s all a conspiracy ? 

 

Old racist codgers are dying off taking Brexit with them, it’s just a shame they were allowed to rip the carpet out from under the future generations first.

 

Looking forward to those polls you’re going to find ......

So you can't show that those that have died voted for Brexit. So that is a lie you wrote.

You mention about a polls for young people. That's if polls are true as they have been proven lots of times are not in fact.

You say you wouldn't kick me when I am down. Don't make me laugh. Answer the first sentence and you might get some respect. But saying old racist codgers just shows what a charmer you are. I hope karma deals what you deserve from an old codger, as you so crudely put it.

10 hours ago, Bruntoid said:

But many many dead ones who voted leave to be replaced by younger ones that won’t - thus the leavers panic to avoid a second referendum.

Can you show the evidence for that or are you talking a load of rollocks.

So those people that died you know voted Brexit. How?

Those who are coming of age of 18 you know would vote Remain.

I will save you the time, you are making it up. Fake news,

20 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

No, not at all.

There is a start.

20 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

People decided (not binding) that they want to leave the EU.

But contradict yourself. Parliament has already said countless times that it is legal.

20 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

They voted based on wrong and incomplete information.

Oh dear still using that chestnut. You will be saying next that politicians never tell the truth. Have you even considered that information factual or incorrect is irrelevant to a persons perception or beliefs. that's what democratic vote is about

The rest of your post is worthless.

Trying looking up Ted Heath PM and what he said in 1973. Talk about lies. But your argument doesn't look at the root cause does it.

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Lets say you have a working car. And then this dealer comes and tells you that you can have a big car for the same money. It will be faster, more comfortable and it will need less fuel. You think great, I want that.

But then you think about it again and look closer at the car which the dealer wants to sell you. And you find out it will be a real hassle. From far away it looks ok but on a closer look it has lots of problems which you didn't notice first.

Now, would you still buy that big car which you dreamed about would be so great? Or do you look at the facts and think again that maybe your first impression was wrong and maybe your current car is still the better alternative?

Obviously cars and countries are not comparable but I am sure you understand the idea.

 

The USA and China are a lot bigger than the UK. That makes a BIG difference. And all these countries were never part of the EU so they don't have to redo what the EU did over the last decades. I.e. all those trade deals from the EU with other countries don't exist anymore when the UK leaves the EU. They have to do all those trade deals again. And now the little UK asks for a trade deal and not anymore the big EU. Do you spot the difference?

 

Intelligence has nothing to do with having a university degree.

Personally I think about a person as intelligent if he or she is able to look at data, check if this data is correct, analyze it, and then make decisions based on the facts. Highly intelligent people do this faster than average intelligent people. And intellectually challenged people don't even understand the problem.

So for Brexiters I see two options: Maybe they are average intelligent and it takes them a little longer to understand that the politicians lied to them and promised the impossible. Or maybe they are just plain stupid and don't realize the problems, even if they are presented to them. 

Well not that it matters I have a very high IQ, more than enough degrees than most and postgraduate degrees. This has nothing at all for someone to objectively decide if they want to leave the EU. You have a different opinion to mine. Are you more or less intelligent than me, who cares. Do you want to stoop democracy, yes as your continued posts suggest.

Your car analogy doesn't do it for me.

36 minutes ago, kingdong said:

A very good intelligent post,wish I had your patience in trying to reason with a remainer well good luck and i,'ll carry on trying to teach my chimpanzee to play the piano.

Yes but the remainers have the high IQ and are the intelligent ones, allegedly.

By the way how many tunes does your chimp play. I can guess as many as the remainers tunes that they play here.

43 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

3 years ago people were promised things will be great after Brexit - and 52% voted for Brexit.

Then it became more and more clear:

- there is no easy breakup, it's mayor headache

- there is no easy trade deal (with the EU or anybody else)

- there will be massive short time disruptions

- there will be lots of long time problems, things get more expensive, companies move out, fewer jobs, etc.

One would think that the people who believed 3 years ago that things will get better should by now know that that is not the case. There is no upside of Brexit. Or if there is one nobody discovered it yet.

And still so many people support Brexit. Might it be related to their limited IQ?

How cheap and predictable trying to link iQ with having a democratic vote and opinion in life. May it be that they have more confidence, believe and are fed up with being a cash cow for the EU with freeloaders taking advantage.

Or that they are fed up with the federalisation of Europe. Also they have greater vision. To say there is no upside to leaving the EU (Brexit) shows hows limited your IQ is. How do the USA. China, India Australia, Japan, and all the others cope with not being in the EU.

Please don't say you have university degree so that makes me more intelligent. It has been done to death and proven to be like your argument here, worthless.

25 minutes ago, Estrada said:

63% did not vote to leave.

And if you didn't turn up to the party you can demand a piece of cake. Your stats are wrong anyway. Under 18s can't vote. It was the biggest turnout ever, promoted once in a generation referendum.

This translates for many remainers as lets have another vote because we don't like the result, even if the first referendum hasn't been acted upon.

Its called democracy, its your choice to vote.

6 hours ago, tebee said:

"The people have spoken and should never be allowed to speak again "

Yes they have. A reminder in history as it seems you have forgotten which seems to be a remainer trait. It took 43 years to get a referendum after joining the EEC. Forget about the lies of the referendum in 2016. There were loads of lies in 1973.

So this referendum result of 2016 hasn't even been enacted upon. So do you see how ridiculous the statement you have said is.

For those who see an ice cube from a glass of G & T and shout Iceberg. Usually the same reamainers who have been claiming the UK economy is in the gutter, saying it will be next week. the same rhetoric for 3 years.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/business/economy-steps-back-from-brink-of-recession-5wm8nssp5

So come on you reaminers, you have been lying for 3 years. The economy just like the 900,000 jobs that would be lost the day after the referendum result, its a lie.

8 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Tissues please!!

Don't cry, I am sure your champion Bercow will enjoy his new fame

9 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Don't worry, it would have happened anyway Bercow or no Bercow, he only made them look totally pathetic. 

You seem to think its his choice to retire. He has been pushed. Why is that.