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9 minutes ago, Forethat said:

It's more than Brit bashing. It's about guilt. It's about self-abasement. They run a series on History Channel now - "Why Does Everyone Hate the English?"

Produced by Brits. 

 

I just want to throw up.

The said poster is very envious, jealous and bitter about the UK. He gets upset that his country is been used by the EU.

As soon as Sein Fein start backing leave the EU like they use too and now only support it in the hope of a united Ireland, he will go back supporting them. Most don't take him seriously anymore.

55 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

You appear to have been possessed with extraordinary foresight at the time of the referendum to be convinced that no deal was an option

Yes I can see into the future.????

No deal equates to leaving the EU, the ECJ, Customs Union, Single market.

That's what leaving the EU meant and this was reported so often. The leader of remain camp (David Cameron) also told everyone countless times, although remainers seem to conveniently forget that fact.

So if that's what no deal equates to leaving the above so be it.

58 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

In the meantime please note this survey from the Times/Sunday Times (You know those two left wing magazines).

I assume you are trying to be funny here.

59 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

It is over 20,000 people - that's a big survey by UK polling standards.

You still seem to believe surveys. Do you not remember all those surveys and predictions that the referendum result, would be a huge victory for remain. You still haven't learned.

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

Btw what is British culture? 

Bickering

Cherry picking? 

Dreaming of a Great Empire? 

Adoring a royal pet family? 

Living in the past? 

Bad food? 

Bad weather even? 

Brit bashing again. At least you are consistent with your tiresome jealousy.

1 hour ago, mlmcleod said:

WOW! Brexiteers are just the same as Trumpeteers!

55555

Yes supporting democratically elected people or causes.

1 hour ago, vogie said:

What would you like the vote to be.

1. Stay in the EU

2. Don't leave the EU

 

I would add a few more from a remainers mindset.

Join the Euro

Pay more contributions

Take in more foreigners until their is no British culture left.

Luckily these and the ones you mention will never happen

I wonder how much all those EU buildings and offices are worth. sadly like the rest of the EU and transparency when it comes to finance is non existent.  I would imagine that the UK is owed quite a lot from this so called divorce.

The mindset of remainers is that the UK should pay for everything and get nothing back. That is not a divorce it is called extortion.

Here is an interesting read on the EU buildings.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/13/the-eus-buildings-are-as-opaque-as-its-bureaucracy/

5 hours ago, Miami007 said:

Does anyone believe that the USA under the current president will give a favorable deal to the UK? 

Or is it more likely that the USA will take advantage of the situation and the president can talk about his great deal for the USA?

I guess these two people do but no doubt the 'Mystic Megs' among us know better.

"Mr Johnson told ITV: “There’s an opportunity to do a great free trade deal with the United States. The president is very gung-ho about that and so am I.

“I don’t think people realise quite how protectionist sometimes the US market can be, but what I’m saying to Donald is, you know, this is a big opportunity for both of us but we need to some movement and we need to see movement from the US side.

“They want to do it within a year, I’d love to do it within a year, but that’s a very fast timetable.”

On the Brexit divorce bill, Mr Johnson said: “If we come out without an agreement it is certainly true that the 39 billion is no longer, strictly speaking, owed.”

Mr Trump said that Britain would be able to strike a “fantastic” trade deal with the US without the “anchor” of the EU holding it back.

He said that Theresa May, the former prime minister, had “stymied” the progress of talks and said Mr Johnson was the “right man for the job”.

The president added: “We’re going to do a very big trade deal, bigger than we’ve ever had with the UK and now at some point they won’t have the obstacle, they won’t have the anchor around their ankle, because that’s what they have.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/trump-wants-trade-deal-within-year-of-brexit-says-pm-66rf6wjts

12 hours ago, Handsome Gardener said:

We AGREE a £39b divorce bill - we then renege on that AGREED deal withholding money as an amateur bargaining chip. The EU don't play ball and the UK get to keep £30b or so - well done UK. But hang on.....

We didn't agree. The then PM Theresa May (Remainer) did which wasn't agreed by anyone else. This was for a deal which if there is no deal, then no money. She is not in the picture so that doesn't matter.

12 hours ago, Handsome Gardener said:

Seriously are there ANY brexiteers on here that have even been in business ?

Yes I assume lots and I imagine even more successful than you, which I am sure you will find unbelievable. If you are suggesting that you would deal in the way that TM did as PM, we will give you this amount of money and you don't have to tell us what trade deals you will give us then, I am glad I don't have your business sense.

13 hours ago, flossie35 said:

he chances of the UK being successful outside the EU, especially  in the case of a no-deal exit, appear from the evidence to be negligible.

Can you show us this evidence.

13 hours ago, flossie35 said:

The US is likely to demand all sorts of undesirable conditions for a trade agreement, which the UK will be too weak to resist (where have I heard "we hold all the cards" before?).

Once again this is your speculation.

13 hours ago, flossie35 said:

Not just chlorine chicken and rats' hairs in the food, but exorbitant not to say obscene prices for pharmaceuticals, grasping insurance companies let in on the NHS, weaker labour laws etc.

Oh dear we are scaremongering. you have definitely bought into the project fear. so how do the US cope with such poor food system.

The world is much bigger than the EU, so the potential opportunity is greater. Regardless we will have to see won;'t we instead of just assuming what will happen after the UK leaves the EU.

12 hours ago, samran said:

yep, giving up a trade deal with 500m people which gives you unfettered access, and in return going for a 3rd rate trade deal with 311m people, which will take at least 5 years to negotiate, that is assuming congress gives fast track approval, which it wont. 

 

Yeah, a great deal....

I sense a bit of anger or is it jealousy.

17 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

So you're suggesting that we cannot criticize our elected leaders?  That doesn't sound very democratic. 

So where am I suggesting that we can't criticise our elected leaders. You are making it up.

Many posters on here have done nothing but criticise from the day Trump was elected. As I stated I don't get into the US and its politics.

The crying rooms still makes me howl with laughter though, that adults need rooms to cry in because they lost in an election.

35 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Please look at the how the EU works.

And please look at what Trump did in the last years.

And then think for about a second why you think Trump will give the UK a good deal?

In Trumps definition a good deal is where he wins and he doesn't give a f*@$ about the other party.

And look at the size of the UK, EU and USA and think about how that matters.

Well we have to see wont we but I believe the UK and US have always had a good relationship, much better than we have ever had with the EU in my opinion.

I am not a fan of Trump as he certainly lacks class but trade deals with the UK benefit both countries.

31 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Oh I know it's a long shot.  Walsh knows it as well.  But to have a Republican trashing Trump over the next few months....should be entertaining. 

I am not from the US and unlike many on here, do not get into other countries democratic politics. But what happens if (and when IMHO) Donald Trump gets in for a second term. More ridiculous crying, stamping feet and photo shopping face pictures onto figures with scripture. Or will you just accept that he was democratically elected.

Waiting for all the Europhiles who will no doubt ridicule and potential trade deal with the US/UK. I am sure the usual obscenities of Trump and Johnson will come.

It just shows how desperate they are and jealous of the UK being successful outside of the EU.

Boris is right to withhold any payment. Obviously TM and her lapdog Ollie Robbins both EU lovers caused this so called divorce bill. Boris is just sticking up for his countries rights.

I am surprised the UK hasn't asked for money back on all those lovely EU buildings, as we contributed to paying for them. So rightly we should get our share back, as we are leaving.