Laughing Gravy

4 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Maybe Remainers are being pessimistic by buying now before cost of imports and UK manufactured products go even higher in the future.

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21715999-spending-spree-has-kept-economy-going-brexit-may-be-nearing-its-end-britains

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/16/why-britains-shopping-spree-will-come-at-a-cost/

The article I know is a paid paper to view so I didn't post it all.

Here is another snippet of it.

However, the research found little evidence that consumers overall were in any immediate hurry to cut back on spending, with most believing that Brexit would not affect them personally or that they did not know enough to make any spending changes yet.

Only 7 per cent of the 1,000 respondents said that the referendum result had already led them to cut back spending, while 20 per cent said that it had led them to increase spending either by a little or a lot. Sixty-one per cent reported no change.

3 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

The chips on shoulder brigade having one of their ritual wails. Like old biddies at the bus stop.

I see the whining, it isn't fair posse are still going on and on and on about wishy, washy could be and maybe's. I won't put a laughing icon on. I would however put a pity one if it existed.  I am actually starting to feel sorry for you living in denial and fear, chin up ole bean it will be OK.

Quite interesting from todays Times on those who voted remain and spending. so the fear mongering, we would have a financial meltdown and catastrophe seems to be like many things peddled as rubbish.

People who voted to remain in the European Union have defied conventional wisdom and gone on more of a spending spree since the referendum than those who elected to leave.

The counterintuitive behaviour was revealed in a survey which found that overall British consumers were still spending robustly and showed little sign of stopping in the short term.

Strong consumer confidence since the referendum has been the key factor in maintaining vigorous economic growth, an outcome that has wrongfooted many economists.

Paradoxically, Remainers have increased their spending by more than Leavers, despite having much more pessimistic views about the impact of Brexit on the economy and job security.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/remainer-spending-spree-leaves-economists-baffled-klbrsvldf

You would think that the UK was starting a war in Europe the way some posters and European leaders have said. The UK tried to work with the EU asked for better conditions and was told to naff off basically. It hasn't worked as its original common market model. The majority of people voted out and that is what we are doing. The EU will miss the money the UK has given them but that doesn't have to mean we stop trading. It is up to the EU now to work with the UK to have a mutual working relationship without the binding constraints and legislation the EU puts on its members.

Well done her majesty for respecting the will of the people. It is a shame the Lords didn't do the same. To the Bob Geldof luvvy types and the Gina Miller's. Start realizing the UK is leaving the EU and stop trying to disrupt it in anyway possible, as you are not only embarrassing yourself but showing just how out of touch you are with the people. Mostly those that voted leave seem to want the best for the UK. anything less is treason IMHO.

And if you believe this which sounds fair to me, Scotland can have their say again then which is much earlier than a generation.

After the Prime Minister announced that “now is not the time” for a second independence vote earlier on Thursday, it is now believed she is set to frustrate the First Minister further by calling on her to prove her claim that she has a “cast iron” mandate for a new vote at the next Scottish elections in 2021.

 http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/780268/theresa-may-scotland-independence-referendum-six-years-2023-nicola-sturgeon

Many posters and politicians seem to have a short memory.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11095188/Alex-Salmond-pledges-no-second-Scottish-referendum.html

"Alex Salmond today pledged there would not be a second Scottish independence referendum for another generation even if he loses Thursday’s contest by a single vote."

He is still number two in the SNP.

Sensible words from David Davis so as he said he is talking to member states. obviously not listening to some TV posters from the remain side, thankfully.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/triggering-article-50-by-next-week-now-critical-zfh8m36gh

“I do my job on the basis of facts and data and research and analysis and operational planning, and off the back of that I will give answers that are accurate and that are factual — not throwaway lines in interviews,” he said.

“My general view is that this is eminently achievable because the attitude of the European states is one which will want a good long-term relationship,” he said. “From talking to member states’ foreign secretaries, finance ministers and prime ministers, there is a growing determination to get a constructive outcome. The issue is whether the member states’ voices make it through to the [European] Commission.”

5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

This is a thread about Scottish nationalism...

The thread is about a second independence in Scotland after having one not so long ago. What happens if you lose and you possible could. Personally which I have said before, if Scotland want out then fair enough. The referendum for NS is about staying in the EU and she is using nationalism to get a 2nd referendum.

2 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Now don't get too intellectual about it; you might lose some of your interlocutors if the discussion is too complex ?

Not to complex at all. I have things to do. To go over old ground is tedious. I can always rely on you to try and make yourself sound more intelligent, than everyone else.

Now you have been defeated over the EU referendum and championed, insulted and ridiculed some posters here. It would seem you have found a new mission. A 2nd Scottish referendum. Good luck with that one also.

1 minute ago, rockingrobin said:

The former Belgian prime minister Guy Verhofstadt, now the European parliament’s chief Brexit negotiator, implied he was sympathetic to giving Scotland automatic membership. “It’s wrong that Scotland might be taken out of EU, when it voted to stay,” he tweeted after the referendum.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/10/independent-scotland-would-have-to-apply-for-eu-membership

I read that but the article says he is sympathetic that doesn't say it would be accepted. It is all about leaving the EU that's it. Go and ask Spain and other EU countries if they agree. They have spoken already and the answer was no or join the back of the queue.

1 minute ago, Grouse said:

Why do you care?

 

Do you have any interest in what would be good for Scotland?

I do care. Yes I do. My views are different from yours. Simple.

Just now, RuamRudy said:

Has Grimsby ever been a unique country? Does it currently have its own legal system, education system, religious bodies? Is it a viable entity, distinctly different from its neighbours?

Obviously you didn't understand the irony and joke. I am not slating Scotland one bit. Just NS. I am not going to get into a nationalistic argument over it.

Just now, RuamRudy said:

Where do you think they will relocate to?

I don't think they will relocate.

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

I sense that the EU will welcome Scotland with open arms

Obviously you have not been reading or listening to what the rest of the EU have said. The way you are talking we might as well have Yorkshire and Lancashire going for independence. Why not Grimsby?

Now joking aside and being realistic, Scotland if they want independence should wait like everyone is saying, except Sturgeon and her one policy party. Thankfully there are some level headed Scots around. Jumping on the Brexit bandwagon like NS has shows her desperation. I look forward to seeing her political career go down the toilet.

28 minutes ago, pegman said:

Maybe if done soon enough the E.U. financial industry can be moved north rather than to the continent. 

 Where to Manchester or Liverpool. Come on seriously you were joking, as that statement is hilarious.

Also in the 8 months there have been certain people, politicians and Lords who have constantly tried to sabotage the UK in the negotiations before they have even started and quite frankly have behaved abysmally. If traitors gate was still used there would be quite a few heads on spikes.

25 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Yes she does

I agree, she just isn't going to tell every Tom, Dick and Grouse before going to the negotiating table. Sounds perfectly sensible.

This is from the man (Tyrant) who was so ill he was in bed in the court room during his trial in 2012. He was so sick he had weeks to live. Please. Nothing but a con man. He was kidding nobody with half a brain,. Sadly it would seem the Egyptians didn't have a half a brain.

We had a vote in 2014. Lets get out of the EU as that was the last vote and then give the Scots another vote. Fine by me. If the Scots vote out then great. If they don't I would like to see that horrible, self serving pixie to leave politics once and for all and crawl under the stone she came from. One thing is Scotland should fund the referendum not the UK.

No surprises there and I have said it all along. Lots of huffing and puffing from the remain crowd with little substance. This next week will be very interesting in European politics.

Sarcastic. Geez he better not come  and read threads on here. It is full of sarcasm. That's the whole point.

Whether you like Trump or not he certainly seems to have it right on Muslims. Just look at the Dutch at the moment.

1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

Feel free to ignore pretty much the entirety of my post but, I'd repeat :-

 

"do you think the self-serving Con MPs are about to revolt against the Con party self-serving final deal? "

 

 

 I  will answer if that's Ok.  Of course they won't. it  would be political suicide.

Mmm and there was me thinking it is president trump in office and not Hilary Clinton. Hilarious.