Bandersnatch

electric vehicle (EV) excise tax drops from 8% to 2% effective from June 9, according to the Excise Department.

I would hold off buying an EMotorbike - I posted this on the first page of this discussion. ฿18,000 subsidy coming in soon

1 hour ago, CLW said:

Watched a few reviews from Thai YouTubers. Neta V as sole main car, I don't know?

Relatively small battery size and top speed capped at 110 km/h? Are they serious?

I'm really not driving fast, but IMO that is not fast enough to overtake some other cars or cruise on the motorway / expressway...

 

This however caught my attention. Made in China, so in theory it should be well-priced here due to no tax. Deducting the government incentives it could be around 1 million baht. Note that the mentioned price of 35.000 GBP is for top spec version of the Smart #1.

 

If you hear any news of the Smart #1 coming to Thailand please post it here.

I agree the Neta V would not be my next car but it is cheap and good value. We needs EVs for every pocket.

The Neta S does look good but no current plans to bring it to Thailand

1 hour ago, In Full Agreement said:

 

 

That 's probably a restriction that applies nearly worldwide.

 

 

Condo charging is not a thing yet in Thailand, but if it can be done elsewhere, then it can be done here. 
 

If the condo building can make money selling electricity at a premium to EV owners, then it will happen.
 

Installing a power outlet with RFID controlled access and back office recharging software would be the way to go. 
 

10 hours ago, Tuvoc said:

how are Condo owners going to home-charge

Thailand is about 5 years behind where Europe is with regard to EVs. Overnight 3 and 7kW charging (destination charging) will become more common here as they are in Europe.

I own condos in the UK and will be installing EV charging when I get a rental void. The UK is now offering £300 grant for landlords to install charging for tenants.

Charging Speed:

On 6/9/2022 at 7:32 AM, Bandersnatch said:

MG fast DC charges charge at 94 kW DC adding 410km/hour so a 22 minute charge adds 150km of range. Tesla charge at twice that rate with some cars charging at three times.

Battery Life and resale value of EVs

If batteries die after their 8 year warranty why are 11 year old Nissan Leafs selling like hot cakes for £8,000 in the UK?

On 6/9/2022 at 2:00 PM, Bandersnatch said:

MGs come with an 8 year battery warranty and second hand models seem to hold their value but are only 3 years old.

 

 

Older EVs in the UK and US are selling for what they cost new

 

 

 

 

Seem to be covering the same ground again and again.

Batteries:

My EV is an MG and I have owned it in Thailand for over a year. During that time the battery pack has lost 1km or range. 

MG Battery packs are made up of battery modules. A failure in one module means that only that module needs to be replaced not the whole pack.  

Quite a few EV trucks at the Korat EV expo I attended last month 

In case you missed it: Thailand to only allow BEV sales from 2035

The Thai government will only allow purely electric vehicles to be sold from 2035 onwards. The aim is also for electric vehicles to account for 50 per cent – and not 30 per cent as previously planned – of all new car registrations by the end of this decade.

https://www.electrive.com/2021/04/23/thailand-to-only-allow-bev-sales-from-2035/

Reminder this a discussion about EVs in Thailand.

This not a discussion about EVs v ICE cars  - for that go here:

38 minutes ago, transam said:

Are EV's in LOS unsellable at say 6 years old...?

MGs come with an 8 year battery warranty and second hand models seem to hold their value but are only 3 years old.

Older EVs in the UK and US are selling for what they cost new

We have spent enough time answering the question:

“Is it possible to charge an EV on a long trip in Thailand?”

The answer is yes - so let’s move on.

The only caveat being it is easier if you choose an EV with good dealer charging support. Currently the clear winner in Thailand is MG. GWM has promised the same but has yet to be rolled out. Tesla has recently set up a company in Thailand and has a reputation of offering the best charging support of any EV manufacturer. 

MG fast DC charges charge at 94 kW DC adding 410km/hour so a 22 minute charge adds 150km of range. Tesla charge at twice that rate with some cars charging at three times.

12 minutes ago, Tuvoc said:

Currently, we would need to have two cars, and EV and a standard diesel for longer journeys. I don't see that as being very "green". Yesterday we did an unexpected  trip to visit a sick family member, Chiang Rai province to Chiang Mai and back in the same day, it was probably 500km return and of course over hilly terrain, bad for battery range, and return journey was in darkness. Tell me how that would be possible with current EVs ? We were only there for 2 hours at most, how much charge would a standard 230v outlet have given ?  Charging points at local MG dealer or shopping malls is irrelevant for that scenario. I'd love to have just an EV as a sole car, but it is the range more than anything else that is critical to me. That will come of course, as battery technology and technology in general improves. So, yes to an EV but "not yet" is my current view. It is great to see the government is providing some subsidies for sure.

An MG ZS long range has a range of 365 km. An MG fast DC charger would charge at 94 kW DC would add 410km/ hour so you would only need to stop once for a few minutes. 
 

A granny charger that you plug into a wall outlet gives about 3kW/ hour

so again totally possible 

21 minutes ago, Excel said:

Oh dear, already seen that. and of course they exist in some places so go back to read my post.

8 minutes ago, Excel said:

Of course for short hops or city bound folk an EV  is usable, but as I illustrated, out in the provinces it is not yet a practical alternative for long journeys due to lack of charging stations so hence if you can not charge why would you buy one ?.

Just because you didn’t see any chargers doesn’t mean that don’t exist. 

15 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Example: a basic Tesla Model 3 is US$40,000 (1.3MB) in the US...   how much is it in Thailand ? 3-4 million Baht ?

Please read my opening post to this topic if you do not want to get your post deleted. This is a discussion about EVs in Thailand or coming to Thailand not imports at stupid prices. If you had bothered to read previous posts you would know that Tesla has recently registered a sales company in Thailand. 

8 minutes ago, Excel said:

 Why buy or "own" if you can not use the vehicle.

The vast majority of my charging is done at home. It is only rare out of province trips that require public chargers. I have owned an EV for over a year. An EV in Thailand is definitely possible. Anybody who says it is not possible here doesn’t know what they are talking about.

7 minutes ago, Excel said:

Looks nice, wonder if it will come to Thailand ? Problem is insufficient charging points in the provinces which make long journeys almost impossible currently.

I use EA Anywhere as a destination charger 7kW AC at Robinson Surin, Buriram. Khon Khen  has several EA chargers but not at the Malls. Couple of weeks ago I was at Pattaya Central Festival and charger there was free:

The MG app maps out the DC fast chargers at MG showrooms: