Bandersnatch

8 hours ago, placeholder said:

The resale value of EV's seems to depend largely on range. So EVs that have a limited range decline in value by a far larger percentage than do those with longer range.

"According to KBB, models having operating ranges of over 200 miles are holding their values the best in the resale market. The Bolt EV is rated at 238 miles, with the I-Pace at 234 miles and the e-tron promising 248 miles. This effectively nixes the so-called range anxiety that tends to plague owners of older EVs that could only muster 100 or fewer miles per charge."

https://www.myev.com/research/buyers-sellers-advice/electric-vehicles-with-the-best-resale-values-for-2019

I agree with you but 11 year old Nissan Leaf (2011) -  24kWh are still selling and they are great as a second car for the school run and trips to the shops

Regularly see comments online saying that EV batteries last less than 10 years. So if that was true an 8 year old Tesla would be cheap as chips, because everybody keeps saying they the batteries are too expensive to replace.

Just had look at 8 year old Tesla Model S in the UK on Autotrader

3 year old Tesla Model 3s are similar money to what they cost new 3 years ago!

Video of the Korat Low Carbon City and EV Expo  - if you don't speak Thai just watch out for the phrase:

"Rot Fi Far Roy %"   = electric vehicle 100%

20 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

The Dirty Truth about Combustion Engine Vehicles

 

Unfortunately the data used in most comparisons of CO2 for ICE and EVs is out of date. They normally state that CO2 per km driven is very similar for EVs and Gasoline powered cars as researchers have traditional only been using CO2 produced by burning Gasoline in the car. More recent research has shown that "well to wheel" CO2 is actually far higher: 3,140 grams per litre for Gasoline see the study "Global carbon intensity of crude oil production" By comparison The International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) calculated that a battery electric car running on the UK grid electricity produces only 35g of CO2 per km

https://innovationorigins.com/en/producing-gasoline-and-diesel-emits-more-co2-than-we-thought/

Initial update from the Low Carbon City and EV Expo in Korat Yesterday (A 6 hour round trip for me)

Battery swapping station

Electric Trucks and Buses:

The Dirty Truth about Combustion Engine Vehicles

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

BYD show at Korat - I plan to visit today

 

20-22 May 2017

Apparently Google translate struggles translating Buddhist Era dates! Noticed it too late edit the post  - the year should be 2022 and not 2017!

BYD show at Korat - I plan to visit today

20-22 May 2017 (Booth C6-C8)  • From time : 3 pm - 9 pm

Activity ground in front of City Hall, Nakhon Ratchasima province

https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/lowcarboncityandevexpo

As previously mentioned  BYD plans right hand drive EV factory for Thailand

2 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

@Bandersnatch

wonder if this is the green MG5 you mentioned on the video, seen at the Ayutthaya City Mall and there’s a few “ superstars “ appearing this evening .

 

 

The guy I was thinking about sold his Audi to buy and MG5 and wrapped in green 

Wonder if that might be the new MG5 Scorpio

https://carspiritpk.com/mg5-scorpio-launched-in-china/

1 hour ago, stratocaster said:

I have recounted a couple of stories on here from my chum in the UK running a MG Z EV. He has never got the quoted range in nearly 1 year of ownership. His last trip was 85 miles and he lost 120 miles of range.

I agree with @macahoom I have experienced the same electric range that was quoted by MG. Reports from colder countries often quote a different range for winter and summer driving. Many electric cars such as Tesla will preheat the batteries to condition them before arriving at a charging station.

https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-410-charging-at-high-and-low-temperatures

This morning between 2am and 3am I joined an online panel discussion about MG EVs

The Thailand section starts at about the 27:00 minute mark.   

GWM was at Robinson Surin today. Gave me another chance to sit in the Havel H6. It is a really nice car but unfortunately only a Hybrid.
 

I asked the girl when she was expecting the PHEV version and found out that apparently “Plug In” is better understood than PHEV. It is coming next year.

23 hours ago, digbeth said:

the MGEV in Thailand is buiilt and imported whole from China

MG Thailand (SIAC Motor-CP Co. LTD) has been manufacturing Cars in Thailand including EVs at it's 3 factories at Hemaraj Eastern Seaboard Industrial Estate for the past 8 years.

In October 2020 it reached a total of 100,000 MG vehicles produced in Thailand.

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21 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

MG installed 108 EV Charging Stations in MG showrooms and service centres, 67 of which are ready to provide services. Charging fees are 6.5 baht per kilowatt-hour during the off-peak hours and 7.5 baht per kilowatt-hour during peak hours. The company is ready to move on to the second phase by installing 500 more MG Super Charge installations across the country by the end of this year with an investment budget of over 500 million baht. 

Tesla has proved that installing DC rapid charger infrastructure is as important as the car itself. Charging a Tesla in Europe and the US is definitely the best experience for any EV.

I will probably be buying a new EV in the next couple of years and MGs investment in DC Super Chargers at their many dealers is a real incentive to stick with MG. I have also had a faultless and enjoyable experience with the car and great service from the dealer. 

Long waitlists for EVs in Thailand.

Comments online are saying that Great Wall's Ora Good Cat orders may not be filled until next year.

I saw MG with a display at my local mall today and so asked them about deliveries for the MG ZS EV and MG EP and was told that there was a six month wait. They did have stock of the MG HS PHEV however.

Chinese EV startup Neta makes Thailand first stop for overseas expansion.

Neta Automobile has signed a strategic cooperation framework agreement with Thailand's PTT Public Company Limited to jointly develop the local market.

Neta will work with PTT to build a smart car ecosystem to provide high-quality smart EVs to Thailand and ASEAN.

A right-hand-drive version of the Neta V will be the first available in Thailand. The Neta V is priced in China  from ฿311,000 to ฿400,000

https://cnevpost.com/2021/11/10/chinese-ev-startup-neta-makes-thailand-first-stop-for-overseas-expansion/

Video in Thai from last month's Bangkok Auto Show:

Toyota set to sign MoU for Thai EV subsidy package

Toyota Motor Thailand will sign a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with the Excise Department on Friday to make its future electric vehicles eligible for the government’s price subsidy. 
 

So far, Great Wall Motor (GWM) Manufacturing Ltd and MG Sales Thailand Ltd have signed MoUs with the Excise Department for their EVs to be eligible for excise tax reduction and subsidy of Bt70,000 to Bt150,000.

https://www.nationthailand.com/specials/40015033

39 minutes ago, billzant said:

This is a tentative post. I will be buying one more car and would like to buy electric, not now but when my Mazda Bt50 (7 ½ years old) starts to go wrong -  fine at the moment. I would prefer a big pickup like I have but don’t think they do them - prefer EV more.

 

I live in rural Thailand 8 kms from Meuang Trat, am not sure but think there are 2 charging stations in Trat and one in Saen Tung. To be honest I rarely travel outside Trat so that is not too much of an issue.

 

But I would want to charge at home. Are there issues about chargers at home? The electrics in my house are iffy. Are PEA helpful about this?

 

I asked Mazda whether they will be doing anything a couple of years ago and was “laughed” at but that could just have been language.

 

Am interested in seeing where government incentives go, and whether there will be anything useable for me over the next few years? Am not too intrepid ????

There are EV Pickup Trucks coming, but none yet in Thailand

https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/best/electric-pickups/

The MAZDA MX-30 is electric but not for sale in Thailand

I have single phase on a 15(45)A meter and the company that MG chose to install my wall box said I needed to upgrade to 30A as that is a requirement to have a 7Kw home charger installed.

Another option acceptable to them was a second 15(45)A meter supplying the wall box directly. Many EV owners have this meter on time of use rate for cheaper charging of an EV overnight - 09.30 PM to 08.00 AM. 

I now charge my EV at home from my solar system, but I did talk to PEA about it and they said the installation of the second 15(45)A meter for EV use was free. 

I had a consumer unit/Fuse box for outdoor electrics with a couple of spare slots. The Wall Box installer installed a new breaker box next to the wall box and this was included in the free MG wall box install.    

1 hour ago, SymS said:

That's using the Home Charger, I asked about connecting to car to a wall socket, the same used as my fridge...

The MG comes with 2 chargers:

1) Wall box - fixed to the wall

2) Mobile charger known as the “Granny Charger” because it’s slow. It has a type 2 AC connector on one end to plug into the car and the other end is a plug. (Unplug the fridge and plug in the granny charger)

What the MG dealer told you about the granny charger is not correct, unlike me he has probably never used one and does know that it has 2.3kW charging capacity.

Wall Box:

Granny charger: