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41 minutes ago, terryofcrete said:

and stay there because no country will let you back in after that. 

Yes they will, try reading the news rather than your own personal view.

So if you don't take the vaccine it's 14 day quarantine still? I'll go to Kenya instead, just a negative PCR to enter there.

42 minutes ago, scorecard said:

She said ".._{.Dr. Siriruk said, adding that the vaccine only protects a person from developing symptoms and does not protect a person from becoming infected by the virus.} 

 

_{Question for the experts (not the laymen) 'Is this a correct comment?'}  

Yes that is correct.

9 minutes ago, Donga said:

A lot to like about the Saudi way, surprised they're one of the creative countries.

I'd be concerned about open slather. Prefer a tailored approach, on a green, amber, red basis.

Green countries would be some Asian countries, certainly Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea as well as Australia and NZ, Norway, Finland, Denmark and Iceland. Let people from these countries in the Saudi way. Face masks still mandatory. People from these countries have about 1 in 100,000 chance of carrying the virus and the few that arrive here would at least be tested and isolated to identify a high % of any that arrive.

Amber would include China, Japan and a host of other countries where they've got things fairly well under control. Guess I would include Saudi in this group. Apply Green controls, plus self isolate for another week in the resort of their choice or their home if they are returning to Thailand.

Red hot countries like - UK, US, France, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico etc - keep existing controls in place. 

Time to get smarter with all this. Thailand has good contact tracing systems and can control an outbreak. Got to try resurrect the tourist industry and learn to live with Covid as will probably never be totally eradicated. Silly to have 14 days quarantine for people coming from countries where Covid is already under control. 
 

I'm in the UK, red hot? In 12 months I've been in 5 countries including Thailand and I don't know anyone who has had covid-19.  Negative PCR for entry should be enough.

20 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

This seems like the obvious tactic, until it is made compulsory.

 

The important thing is to keep your head down and hope that they vaccinate enough Thais to start opening things up and doing away with quarantine.  Then we can actually have a bit of choice.

 

Another thing to consider, is whether you want to stay in Thailand when things open up (if you have a choice)?  Will the covid racism ever really go away?

They can't make it mandatory, coercion is the way they do it and 80%+ is required in western countries to unlock, and then there is problem of the unvaxxed to deal with. I'm plotting my escape from the UK.

40 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just watched the news on Channel 3.  According to the reports the vaccines that the Government has ordered will only be available to Thai people and all other s, foreigners, migrants, will need to source out there own vaccinations from a private hospital.  Additionally, I was reading another article and it appears that the AstraZenica Company may not honor the agreement that Thailand has made with them due to certain political issues which have recently arisen involving a now banned former Future Forward Party MP and leader......seems they do not want to be drug through the political issues created by soon to be filed Les....charges.

 

AstraZeneca has cold feet on vaccine plan due to prosecution of critic Thanathorn: report | Coconuts Bangkok

Supply problems in Europe with AstraZeneca, this will drag on all year and into 2022.

5 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

its too late. china won't allow anyone to travel, uk are talking quarantine hotels or total ban, europe talking mandatory quarantine or total ban non-eu residents, with policy decisions to be made this coming week. the americans never came here in big numbers anyway (and prefer mexico/caribbean). so who does that leave? the russians? indians?

 

its done. over.

 

2022 at the earliest. AND that assumes that vaccines won't need to be administered annually! or mutations force multiple shots per year.

 

good luck getting 8 billion people vaccinated every year ????

 

this goose is cooked.

 

 

 

 

Yeah it's over. The vaccines are not the silver bullet and I never thought they were. Anyway I have my own theories on what is happening and why. Can't do anything in the UK and it seems like it's endless too.

A few things that I read yesterday from UK papers and Disclose.tv. Mass tourism is finished, it may start up again but only after 80%+ of western European countries have been vaccinated, which with supply problems will be the whole of 2021 if not into 2022. Boris has said quite a few times recently that the UK needs to protect it's vaccination program and I've heard Spain say the same. Only safe countries that have had 80%+ vaccination will be allowed for travel and countries that have had "mutant" strains will be on the red list until proved safe.

In regards to Thailand, it doesn't matter if they drop quarantine or not, you will probably have to quarantine when you get back to your home country Australia style. There is no let up in Europe with this and suspect the USA will go the same way. The party is well and truly over.

I think quarantine in Thailand is looking very attractive right now and making it permanent, western Europe and the UK are finished.

15 hours ago, treetops said:

 

Reports of fake test results being used have been around for a while now.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/fake-covid-pcr-negative-test-result-flights-travel-coronavirus-pakistan-b1341636.html

 

I've seen places on Telegram where you can buy them for £30 paid by BTC. Most things can be forged these days.

Not really necessary is it, a few cases here and there.

Not much of outbreak anyway. All the bars are open in Rio with 30k cases per day or more.

"We had to destroy our village to save the village" or "we had to destroy our country in order to save it from covid"

44 minutes ago, Pla nin said:

 

No testing equals no infections 

No testing, no excess deaths, no infections and if there were infections no one noticed or just mild symptoms. It's a PCR test pandemic through mass testing.

Haven't we already been here before, do we never learn from history. Now it's the infected and possibly infected, next will be dissenters and free thinkers who don't comply.

36 minutes ago, Soikhaonoiken said:

So is this Guy is suggesting that the vaccine is not going to be sufficient, or are they being blinded by how much the ASQ are generating for the Government as quoted a couple of months ago, that it generated over a billion Baht in 2 months.... 

I think he has questions over the effectiveness of the vaccines. Without long term trials that question has not been answered.