AhFarangJa

Ok, i don't know why i should care, but as an ex-philosophy teacher and a lover of logic, there is something worth saying about the waste of space represented by many comments on here. Every time a report appears that has the form of a generalisation about an aspect of life in Thailand, a whole posse of commentators think it is worth saying something like : 'Well i live near there and nothing bad has ever happened to me' etc. (See above). That kind of statement may be called 'personal knowledge' or one person's experience retold as an anecdote. It is 'true' but on its own it has little to do with the 'Truth'. Is is a basic Fact - like an empirical observation. From a large collection of such facts, a larger truth might be induced, and gradually a statistical measure built up. In this topic, after a significant number of personal experiences (attacks) are recorded, it becomes possible to make generalised statements about the relative risks of attack in each area reported upon. This amounts to the culture of Statistics overcoming Ignorance. If all we ever had was a host of individuals telling personal anecdotes, we would remain ignorant and lacking Knowledge, capital K. It really has no bearing at all on set of reliable statistics about a phenomenon - eg, a large number of attacks in location XXX, if an individual living in XXX has never (yet) been attacked there. That lucky history is completely Irrelevant to Knowledge if the statistics are accurate and well-founded - but if you feel a need to tell a website about your personal luck, well, go ahead and enjoy; but it carries no weight whatsoever if it is intended to be part of an attempt to disprove an objectively-generated statement about some aspect of human existence. None of this ignores the fact that publications of unreliable statistics are also, a waste of space. That's a very different topic.

I have to say that after reading this through ( 3 times to be truthful) there is more common sense and logic than in a hundred posts.....Lookingeast I guess you must get pretty frustrated here sometimes, but thank you for the enlightened comments

My visa was cloned at swampy, 4000 pounds taken using atm in the phillipines. The Thai bank wasn't really interested. I obtained an atm card for my Kasikorn bank account, so I did not have to use my Jerset one and asked who was liable for fraud, they told me if money was taken out of the atm it was my responsibility. So only small amounts in there now, and also a Thai lawyer would cost a fortune with no guarantees of the outcome.

I wish you all the best in recovering your money ( luckily my Jersey bank is refunding the monies courtesy of Visa)

Bet you will still have the annual water throwing madness next month.....

In my village a lot of children are left with grandparents while parents go to work in BKK. sometimes for months on end. Then it is too much for them to handle and the children are left to fend for themselves, bowing to peer pressure from older children who went through the same mill, a never ending circle I fear. As many here say, education and poor parenting skills are the probable cause , though there is the other side of the coin, the poverty that forces some parents to move for better pay....just my humble opinion...

A farang regularly came to my bar and complained he could get a large Chang from the 7:11 down the road for 35 Baht and why did I charge 60.

He couldn't understand the sport on the big screen, the pool, and the ice for his beer wasn't free!!

Also had one who came in , drunk 3/4 of his beer then said it was off and refused to pay....he never came back either....can't think why

Finally when I lived in Phuket I was at my favourite seafood restaurant and heard a group of backpackers....here is how it went....

1st backpacker....I fancy a beer with dinner

2nd. Backpacker ( female arm wrestler i think)....If you have a beer now thats your breakfast money gone.so no breakfast ...and we will order one rice and share it between the three of us.... then we can order two dishes tommorow....

You watch Thai soaps on the t.v. and actually begin to understand the plot, and ignore the screaming..

open your own restaurant, then you can moan all day if something is wrong....oh wait a minute....there are no staff.....I really feel you need some serious help..or as already mentioned...learn to cook.

Last year my visa card was cloned at swampy, my bank stopped it but not before 3000 pounds was taken from my bank from an atm in the Philippines, which I am getting back thankfully. But, after this I went to my Kasikorn bank and obtained an atm card. I asked the lady in the bank if it was protected from fraud and theft and she said...No.... it is your responsibility.... Still trolling for info on that one, but the card does have a Visa sign, which I assume would cover fraudulent use?. The problem is, if it was cloned and someone took money...how...in Thailand.... do you prove it was not you?

I bet your getting your money back through a UK bank or travel insurance.I have been told the same about responsibility from vice president of Bangkok Bank,and assume nothing is the default action.You prove it by chasing up atm photo's in Thailand.P.I.harder ask,i'll admit.

Yes my bank is in Jersey ( for obvious reasons!), but still takes four months. Good answer ref tracking the camera, never thought of that. I told SCB bank which atm cloned my card at swampy, got a thank you reply and that was it, guess vigilance and unpredictability is the best way though. Or I could just give it all to my wife to take care of.....

Last year my visa card was cloned at swampy, my bank stopped it but not before 3000 pounds was taken from my bank from an atm in the Philippines, which I am getting back thankfully. But, after this I went to my Kasikorn bank and obtained an atm card. I asked the lady in the bank if it was protected from fraud and theft and she said...No.... it is your responsibility.... Still trolling for info on that one, but the card does have a Visa sign, which I assume would cover fraudulent use?. The problem is, if it was cloned and someone took money...how...in Thailand.... do you prove it was not you?

Education seems to be the main problem, We live and work abroad and go home twice a year to Prasar ( Surin). I always spend the first day picking up drink cans and emptying old tyres of water. Then I remove all the saucers from the planting pots. Alas, after I leave it will all be back in a short while. Also, I seem to get bitten whilst my family sit and say " must be farang blood they are after". totally ignored by the little b#$gers!!

Hi DingDongRB, Just got confirmation from Gary, yes, a 15 year old boy was beaten up by a group and then nobody realised that while he was on the ground he was stabbed several times, died in hospital..R.I.P.

Seems another typical mob handed Thai fracas, do not know what the reason was though.

Over the years there have been several attacks and fights related to the Karaoke bar at the end of the soi, mainly due to the katoeys there, but dont think this is related.

My wife also in Prasat, but heard nothing, I will e-mail Gary from staffords and see what is appertaining.

How about he runs for mayor next time, along the lines of the old monster raving loony party, sure he would win.

Unfortunately, in a lot of cases poverty is the driving force, but if we could somehow stop the perverts coming here or humiliate them when they are found, both here and in their home countries then maybe there will be light at the end of the tunnel.

I notice no-one has yet praised the efforts and skill of the medical and emergency services that helped to (hopefully) save him...

Dialled 1175, the wife went through the system in Thai, now have text saying all promotion messages will be cut inside two days.....Yahoo!!, thank you all for your help, Yahoo.....mmmmm?

have a safe day in the land of smiles from sunny Hua Hin.

Many thanks for your help, will try these options and see what happens at 10:05 the start time every day for these texts!

computers and smartphones! Sometimes you have to long for the old callbox on the street corner......showing my age now!!

I recieve six texts a day from something called EatarieQz...for the privilege of this intrusion I am charged 20 Baht a day, 140 Baht a week, 560 Baht a month.....my wife says you cannot stop it!! I never asked for it, never replied to any unknown texts, I do not want to throw my sim as many friends and family have my number.....has anyone else got this problem? can anyone help?.....does anyone care.....

We had a great meal in Hua Hin the other night, food and service excellent, I tipped 100 baht, my sister in law said that is a days work in the rice field....I guess that is a different perspective on it.

Nobody has asked the question yet...was the pick-up licensed to carry four tons of cargo?