KamalaDreamer

DINK. Double income no kids.

No Thai woman wanting your million bucks.

Magic.

I'd stay in Thailand.

As a generality, women everywhere seem to prefer a man who is confident and has an easy smile. Confidence usually goes hand in hand with enough capital (money) to back up one's own BS. I've known several men who visually were fairly homely, but these guys were very masculine and oozed confidence. They were articulate and enjoyed life immensely... and it showed. They were never without the company of beautiful women half their age. I don't know why it is, but the bad-boy image seems to attract a lot of women. But again, maybe it's because those guys are confident in everything they do and that is the "forbidden fruit" that draws women like bees to honey.

Confidence usually goes hand in hand with enough capital (money) to back up one's own BS.

Same for a poor Thai girl. That's why the ones who ain't worth it drape themselves in gold.

Up to you Mr Forbes.

You be farang with money in thailand, I'll be the same but the other way round.

Any reply needs to be well considered. My wife is a gook.

Chris

(Highly experienced, educated white man who doesn't like forked tongue or hypocrisy}

Experts uniting.....

Maybe zzaa09.

I'll tell you one thing though. Crime rate in the village where TGF lives is zero.

Nobody's nicking the hi def Samsung TV's even if the door is left unlocked.

I like that.

And nobody with an easy smile carries my Samsung TV under his arm.

I'm happy in the rice fields of Nam Ko.

That's me.

Experts uniting.....

Maybe zzaa09.

I'll tell you one thing though. Crime rate in the village where TGF lives is zero.

Nobody's nicking the hi def Samsung TV's even if the door is left unlocked.

I like that.

As a generality, women everywhere seem to prefer a man who is confident and has an easy smile. Confidence usually goes hand in hand with enough capital (money) to back up one's own BS. I've known several men who visually were fairly homely, but these guys were very masculine and oozed confidence. They were articulate and enjoyed life immensely... and it showed. They were never without the company of beautiful women half their age. I don't know why it is, but the bad-boy image seems to attract a lot of women. But again, maybe it's because those guys are confident in everything they do and that is the "forbidden fruit" that draws women like bees to honey.

Looks like the topic has gone West.

Good to talk.

regards.

Samurai shows no weakness even when he's starving.

I have no regard for western money obtained by legalised deception... or its owners.

As a generality, women everywhere seem to prefer a man who is confident and has an easy smile. Confidence usually goes hand in hand with enough capital (money) to back up one's own BS. I've known several men who visually were fairly homely, but these guys were very masculine and oozed confidence. They were articulate and enjoyed life immensely... and it showed. They were never without the company of beautiful women half their age. I don't know why it is, but the bad-boy image seems to attract a lot of women. But again, maybe it's because those guys are confident in everything they do and that is the "forbidden fruit" that draws women like bees to honey.

Looks like the topic has gone West.

Good to talk.

regards.

And while I'm dwelling on the intricacies one thing stands out, is indisputable and requires no thought.

If somebody deliberately sets out to damage you, take great care and defend yourself with the utmost skill.

There's a difference between taking from you what they can and doing damage.

Kill Bill.

Regards to all the good guys.

Apologies for this indiscretion, which will probably receive criticism from many posters, but I think it's on topic:

The only Canadian woman I know makes even the most calculating Thai bar girl seem like an angel. And not just cos they are a lot prettier.

Canadian woman knows this. That's why she's dangerous.

For every generality there are dozens of exceptions. And, all things change over time. There is an old saying that goes something like this.

A woman marries a man and expects to change him, but he never does. A man marries a woman expecting her to never change and she always changes. Again, that is a generality for which there are exceptions.

One thing about living as long as I have is I've SEEN all the senarios. I've personally experienced many things that changed ideas I once felt were etched in stone.

I've got a brother and two sisters, and a son and a daughter and three grandkids. Every one of them is different and see life differently even when raised in the same household.I have many friends who are younger and thought they had life all figured out... until life threw them a curve ball. When that happens there are no certainties.

I'm normally very tolerant of other people's failings because I know how life experiences can change a person. I can make allowances for other people's lack of education. It doesn't make them a worse person, but it WILL change how they view life in general. If you grow up in an abusive family then it's going to affect you one way or another. If you come from an upper middle class family with many privileges then you are going to see things differently than a poor person raised in a broken family situation.

Fair enough Mr Forbes. Experience, intelligence and articulation appreciated.

I'll dwell on it.

Regards

We can have a lot of fun here just joking around, but how many times do we have to ask the same question?

Of course women from poor families are going to try and better their position. What sane woman wouldn't? Unfortunately for Thai women there are more poor Thai guys than wealthy ones who can support them. That leaves the OTHER option... a farang who is reasonably well off. Unfortunately, most of those men are getting a little grey in their hair. Young, handsome farangs mostly have to work off shore somewhere else and can only spend a small portion of the year in Thailand. That leaves just the fat old retired guys as a viable option to do the family support program. Thai women hold their nose and pick the best of a bad bunch. But, the very cute gals who don't mind a little part time "hooking" can have a whole bunch of men lined up to take their turn. Those gals get cold and mercenary in a hurry.

Young women from wealthy families in Thailand also have problems, and are at somewhat of a disadvantage. They don't HAVE to look for a guy to support their family, so they want a young guy who is educated and also from a well "connected" wealthy family. They also want a guy who can speak their language. Unfortunately for the those gals there aren't too many young, wealthy, handsome Thai men available. And, the ones there are have a bevy of hot chicks begging for attention. I personally know at least 4 very attractive Thai women who are single and from wealthy families. None of these gals have steady boyfriends.

I don't know any woman who will pick an ugly guy over a more handsome man given that the financial wealth is somewhat equal. That cuts down on the potential partners considerably. Thai guys just want some hottie who will sleep with them, and there seems to be an endless supply of them.

So why ain't you with a Canadian?

Why you fooling around with bamboo that you have made your decision about?

Why would I want to be with a Canadian woman? Have you checked out most Canadian women in the age bracket of 50 to 70? Younger Canadian women do not want a 70 year old man and I don't want someone old, fat and ugly in disposition and body. I don't WANT to give up sex. I have an option here in Thailand and I'm taking full advantage of it. I've got many Canadian lady friends... but the relationships are strictly platonic. In fact my oldest living friend is a Canadian woman just a few years younger than me, but I would never consider living with her. I'm even friends with my first wife but I would not take her back for any amount of money.Besides that I happen to find SOME Asian women attractive.

I find the term "bamboo" to be offensive when used as a description of Asian women.

Tell me where anything I posted is wrong. Just pick out one thing I wrote.

This same topic, and a few others, is repeated over and over on thaivisa all the time. It takes the average stereotype of Asians and uses it as a thesis.

Apologies for this indiscretion, which will probably receive criticism from many posters, but I think it's on topic:

The only Canadian woman I know makes even the most calculating Thai bar girl seem like an angel. And not just cos they are a lot prettier.

Canadian woman knows this. That's why she's dangerous.

All women want to be looked after but I think all this money number 1 is <deleted>.

And if we go food shopping she always tries to pay 1st.

Your post says much more than you understand.

She's playing what's known as the "waiting game".

She wants you to think that she's ........... wait for it ................ DIFFERENT.

You're a a second choice. She's with you because:

1. she's a divorcee with kids and no Thai man wants her

2. she's over 25 and no Thai man wants her

Being with you (whether you like it or not) represents a loss of face on her behalf. Money is what compensates.

The more she tries to hide this fact, the more she makes it obvious.

Utter drivel and a classic example of someone looking to bring others way down to his level just because maybe - just maybe - HE'S been defecated on from a great height by someone HE thought was different. Sure, there are TGs out there using the modus operandi you described but, more often than not, they're the trash outta the bars that look for the no-hope losers with, perhaps, a couple of inches of cash and a close affinity with the barstool.

I've been seeing a girl for nearly 18 months now. She's got no kids, never been married, highly attractive with no shortage of Thai men trying to hook up with her. She owns a small business making artificial flowers which are sold to the hotel industry and she's never taken money off me. If she's occasionally short a couple of grand, I'll give it to her and she pays me back the next day without fail. She always offers to buy drinks if we go out together or if she runs into me in a bar.

Frankly, anyone with a modicum of understanding of women can spot the "long con" a country mile off.

Well said HS.

New relationship, new start, no baggage.

Loy Krathong.

Magic

Without wishing to be too bullish.....I started this post.

It had much more to do with the lady feeling like she's in a Ferrari going at 160k.

Safe flight.

ATB

Great Danes defecating on pillows.....mutter mutter.....who thinks these things up????

10.

Actually it was one of those romcoms where the dog was jealous of the new lady love, wasn't a Great Dane but allow poetic license. And it's not that easy to find universally despised actions, one man's poison and all that. But good to know you're not as sensitive or unintelligent as prima facie suggested.

You've pretty much nailed it as impossible to scribe a conclusive list which is why I don't understand why men don't just ask, listen, learn, draw a venn diagram then build a comfy doghouse for the inevitable moments of contrariness where the wheels come off.

My understanding is the list changes dependent on status of relationship anyway. Listening to those married for a long time would suggest those sexual butterflies of excitement eventually turn into moths of dread and despair.Aren't points 7,8,10 essentially the same?

I wasn't expecting this topic to be hijacked by a discussion involving dogs and pillows.

May not run to 10 pages at this rate.

PS. Was the romcom American?

Great Danes defecating on pillows.....mutter mutter.....who thinks these things up????

10.

Actually it was one of those romcoms where the dog was jealous of the new lady love, wasn't a Great Dane but allow poetic license. And it's not that easy to find universally despised actions, one man's poison and all that. But good to know you're not as sensitive or unintelligent as prima facie suggested.

You've pretty much nailed it as impossible to scribe a conclusive list which is why I don't understand why men don't just ask, listen, learn, draw a venn diagram then build a comfy doghouse for the inevitable moments of contrariness where the wheels come off.

My understanding is the list changes dependent on status of relationship anyway. Listening to those married for a long time would suggest those sexual butterflies of excitement eventually turn into moths of dread and despair.Aren't points 7,8,10 essentially the same?

I wasn't expecting this topic to be hijacked by a discussion involving dogs and pillows.

May not run to 10 pages at this rate.

We can have a lot of fun here just joking around, but how many times do we have to ask the same question?

Of course women from poor families are going to try and better their position. What sane woman wouldn't? Unfortunately for Thai women there are more poor Thai guys than wealthy ones who can support them. That leaves the OTHER option... a farang who is reasonably well off. Unfortunately, most of those men are getting a little grey in their hair. Young, handsome farangs mostly have to work off shore somewhere else and can only spend a small portion of the year in Thailand. That leaves just the fat old retired guys as a viable option to do the family support program. Thai women hold their nose and pick the best of a bad bunch. But, the very cute gals who don't mind a little part time "hooking" can have a whole bunch of men lined up to take their turn. Those gals get cold and mercenary in a hurry.

Young women from wealthy families in Thailand also have problems, and are at somewhat of a disadvantage. They don't HAVE to look for a guy to support their family, so they want a young guy who is educated and also from a well "connected" wealthy family. They also want a guy who can speak their language. Unfortunately for the those gals there aren't too many young, wealthy, handsome Thai men available. And, the ones there are have a bevy of hot chicks begging for attention. I personally know at least 4 very attractive Thai women who are single and from wealthy families. None of these gals have steady boyfriends.

I don't know any woman who will pick an ugly guy over a more handsome man given that the financial wealth is somewhat equal. That cuts down on the potential partners considerably. Thai guys just want some hottie who will sleep with them, and there seems to be an endless supply of them.

So why ain't you with a Canadian?

Why you fooling around with bamboo that you have made your decision about?

Why would I want to be with a Canadian woman? Have you checked out most Canadian women in the age bracket of 50 to 70? Younger Canadian women do not want a 70 year old man and I don't want someone old, fat and ugly in disposition and body. I don't WANT to give up sex. I have an option here in Thailand and I'm taking full advantage of it. I've got many Canadian lady friends... but the relationships are strictly platonic. In fact my oldest living friend is a Canadian woman just a few years younger than me, but I would never consider living with her. I'm even friends with my first wife but I would not take her back for any amount of money.Besides that I happen to find SOME Asian women attractive.

I find the term "bamboo" to be offensive when used as a description of Asian women.

Tell me where anything I posted is wrong. Just pick out one thing I wrote.

This same topic, and a few others, is repeated over and over on thaivisa all the time. It takes the average stereotype of Asians and uses it as a thesis.

Point taken Mr Forbes. Personally a Canadian woman of any age is not top of my list, however I haven't met any Eskimos or native american's yet.

As for causing offense, I use the word bamboo, tongue in cheek. My wife and many of the nicest people I know are 'bamboo gooks'.

American descriptors I think.

Thanks for your respect to the women of IndoChina.

Hold on boss......yes it is true that women are individuals and part of the excitement and interest in a relationship is getting to know your lady, however to suggest that generalizations are wrong in all cases is not on. I ( and no doubt everyone else here ) could do a list of ten things that 99% of women hate and that list would be accurate.

Therefore it is also possible to draw up a list of what 99% of women like.........everyone needs to remember that yes some guys may be "jaded" as a previous poster put it, however it doesn't get away from the fact that we have plenty of experience of the opposite sex.

I agree nothing wrong with generalisations however using sweeping generalisations to argues one's point of view is lazy. The moment you use "ALL" about something as diverse as personality you've got to know you're talking poppycock.

And although your argument is fair and reasoned, the topic was the key to a Thai woman's heart not 99% of Thai women's hearts.

In other news, I've never seen a fair and unbiased questionnaire generate a 99% swing in any properly constructed focus group so I believe I would struggle with such a list but hey I'll give it a go.

1. Nuclear War

2. Foul Body Odor

3. Being trapped in a cave

4. Biting into a mouse in your KFC bucket

5. Being hung, drawn and quartered

6. Getting run over by your husband's mistress in your car

7. Your boyfriend's Great Dane constantly defecating on your pillow

8. Constant nagging about your sexual past

9. False imprisonment in a Thai prison

10. Inattention

I believe the "like" list you will find a lot harder?!?

OK then.........

1. Women like to be warned that there are weirdos like you on the internet.

When I can think of another 9 I'll come back to you.

will the other 9 be dull and boring personal attacks or will some semblance of intelligence be utilised? Ever heard of attacking the argument not the arguer?

Shame that philosophy is usually forgotten in a divorce court in the west.

I have saide it before and I will say it again, Men are hunters and women are nesters. Therefore the answer is a good nest.

Let's not get too cocky waza.

Must be his dominate and secure matriarchal side taking influence.

Just my jaded heart talking, after 2 marriages where I worked hard and built a life with them they decided I was to plain and boring and needed the excitement of a bad boy. Now I want to be the bad boy lol

Chill waza. Nobody's perfect.

Apologies if this sounds patronising or cocky.

ATB

I have saide it before and I will say it again, Men are hunters and women are nesters. Therefore the answer is a good nest.

Let's not get too cocky waza.

I've deleted a post and a reply to it

I don't know why someone always has to do the throw insult at someone you don't know in the very least simply cos you had a bad experience with someone else.

Any more of these and it will involve more than simply deleting your post

Well said and well done Mig16

I think the idea that women can be summed up in some kind of catchphrase (no matter which one you choose) sorta shows the person who believes that doesn't actually *really know* any women. They may be around you, you may interact with them, but you're not thinking of them as individual persons who may just chance to be as 'complex' and 'real' persons as you (potentially) are.

Would women want as good a deal as they can get? Sure, why not, don't men? Would this involve financial security, emotional support, good sex, family harmony and public respectability? Well, duh! What posters who believe it is ALL about money may be missing out on, is that if they're not apparently offering (able to offer) what the ladies in question are looking for in ALL the above areas, certain areas may have to be adjusted upward to make the deal look good enough. But that's no fault- heck, when *I*'m dating someone I think about what we both have to offer and if it works well together, and if someone's falling down in one department other areas *can* make up for it.

I'm sure there are plenty of single (possibly widowed, divorced, etc.) women out there in the same age range as our average male forum members here. Probably a number of them have their own money, too. Try dating (or even simply knowing) some of those ladies and see if money's all they're thinking of from you.

Educated career woman with money has her own money. So what does she want from a man? She'll go down the equivalent of the Bangla Road or have a baby to prove she's a woman.

Personally I'll settle for the Thai woman who doesn't have a lot of money. Much classier.

We can have a lot of fun here just joking around, but how many times do we have to ask the same question?

Of course women from poor families are going to try and better their position. What sane woman wouldn't? Unfortunately for Thai women there are more poor Thai guys than wealthy ones who can support them. That leaves the OTHER option... a farang who is reasonably well off. Unfortunately, most of those men are getting a little grey in their hair. Young, handsome farangs mostly have to work off shore somewhere else and can only spend a small portion of the year in Thailand. That leaves just the fat old retired guys as a viable option to do the family support program. Thai women hold their nose and pick the best of a bad bunch. But, the very cute gals who don't mind a little part time "hooking" can have a whole bunch of men lined up to take their turn. Those gals get cold and mercenary in a hurry.

Young women from wealthy families in Thailand also have problems, and are at somewhat of a disadvantage. They don't HAVE to look for a guy to support their family, so they want a young guy who is educated and also from a well "connected" wealthy family. They also want a guy who can speak their language. Unfortunately for the those gals there aren't too many young, wealthy, handsome Thai men available. And, the ones there are have a bevy of hot chicks begging for attention. I personally know at least 4 very attractive Thai women who are single and from wealthy families. None of these gals have steady boyfriends.

I don't know any woman who will pick an ugly guy over a more handsome man given that the financial wealth is somewhat equal. That cuts down on the potential partners considerably. Thai guys just want some hottie who will sleep with them, and there seems to be an endless supply of them.

So why ain't you with a Canadian?

Why you fooling around with bamboo that you have made your decision about?

PS; first instinct is usually the right one. I don't like you. TV Moderator will step in as appropriate.

We can have a lot of fun here just joking around, but how many times do we have to ask the same question?

Of course women from poor families are going to try and better their position. What sane woman wouldn't? Unfortunately for Thai women there are more poor Thai guys than wealthy ones who can support them. That leaves the OTHER option... a farang who is reasonably well off. Unfortunately, most of those men are getting a little grey in their hair. Young, handsome farangs mostly have to work off shore somewhere else and can only spend a small portion of the year in Thailand. That leaves just the fat old retired guys as a viable option to do the family support program. Thai women hold their nose and pick the best of a bad bunch. But, the very cute gals who don't mind a little part time "hooking" can have a whole bunch of men lined up to take their turn. Those gals get cold and mercenary in a hurry.

Young women from wealthy families in Thailand also have problems, and are at somewhat of a disadvantage. They don't HAVE to look for a guy to support their family, so they want a young guy who is educated and also from a well "connected" wealthy family. They also want a guy who can speak their language. Unfortunately for the those gals there aren't too many young, wealthy, handsome Thai men available. And, the ones there are have a bevy of hot chicks begging for attention. I personally know at least 4 very attractive Thai women who are single and from wealthy families. None of these gals have steady boyfriends.

I don't know any woman who will pick an ugly guy over a more handsome man given that the financial wealth is somewhat equal. That cuts down on the potential partners considerably. Thai guys just want some hottie who will sleep with them, and there seems to be an endless supply of them.

So why ain't you with a Canadian?

Why you fooling around with bamboo that you have made your decision about?

It was stated be a brilliant participant above, "WHO cares about American TV?"

ANSWER: Intellegent, educated people world-wide.... like Americans!

Is this an oxymoron?

Hey I'm an American and I take offence to these comments. Most of us are fairly intelligent, we just can't see because our heads are stuffed up our butts.

Correct.

Ask a native american red indian for endorsement.

"You choose me or you go down the Bangla Road with 3 pieces of bamboo".

wellreds post says exactly what it says, no angle.

Thai girl with big nest in England and a Mercedes Benz on the drive isn't happy.

Been there.

Good Evening Thailand.

All women want to be looked after but I think all this money number 1 is <deleted>. Sure Thai children have been brought up to send money to their parents to support them but a lot of this talk is over the top.Maybe there should posters should specify if the gf is in the P4P industry. In any case she never takes anything off me. The most i've ever given her was 1000 for her mum. I wanted to get her mum a gift for the 1st time we met and she said she wanted to get her mum a bike to ge her healthy again so me, her and her sister all put 1000 in and got a bike from Tesco.

And if we go food shopping she always tries to pay 1st. I've asked her the same questions and she said all girls just want to be appreciated and that they want to be in the company of someone who is attentive, affectionate and generally loving to them. The only bad habit she has is getting jealous or possessive when on the BTS or MRT. She reckons other TG's are checking me out but I never see any of this.

Relief! Now I can be a loser and just sponge off women. I don't even need an income. Happy days are here...!

Nothing a Thai woman likes less than a loser.

ATM

All women want to be looked after but I think all this money number 1 is <deleted>. Sure Thai children have been brought up to send money to their parents to support them but a lot of this talk is over the top.Maybe there should posters should specify if the gf is in the P4P industry. In any case she never takes anything off me. The most i've ever given her was 1000 for her mum. I wanted to get her mum a gift for the 1st time we met and she said she wanted to get her mum a bike to ge her healthy again so me, her and her sister all put 1000 in and got a bike from Tesco.

And if we go food shopping she always tries to pay 1st. I've asked her the same questions and she said all girls just want to be appreciated and that they want to be in the company of someone who is attentive, affectionate and generally loving to them. The only bad habit she has is getting jealous or possessive when on the BTS or MRT. She reckons other TG's are checking me out but I never see any of this.

Seems to me you and the TGF are doing fine.

ATB

Chris